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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHR McMaster said President Trump has the intelligence of a kindergartner, at a private dinner.
National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster mocked President Trumps intelligence at a private dinner with a powerful tech CEO, according to five sources with knowledge of the conversation.Over a July dinner with Oracle CEO Safra Catz who has been mentioned as a candidate for several potential administration jobs McMaster bluntly trashed his boss, said the sources, four of whom told BuzzFeed News they heard about the exchange directly from Catz. The top national security official dismissed the president variously as an idiot and a dope with the intelligence of a kindergartner, the sources said.
A sixth source who was not familiar with the details of the dinner told BuzzFeed News that McMaster had made similarly derogatory comments about Trumps intelligence to him in private, including that the president lacked the necessary brainpower to understand the matters before the National Security Council.
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News of the July dinner first surfaced in August, when Axios reported that Republican mega-donor Sheldon Adelson decided to support a campaign alleging that McMaster was anti-Israel after speaking with Catz about her meeting with the national security advisor. That decision stemmed, multiple sources tell BuzzFeed News, from comments McMaster made to Catz praising President Obamas nuclear deal with Iran and describing Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory as a major problem.
But these new details reveal that the subject matter of McMasters dinner with Catz, which sources tell BuzzFeed News took place on July 18 at the Washington, D.C., restaurant Tosca, ranged far from geopolitics. Indeed, three of the sources said that McMaster disparaged multiple members of the administration to Catz, including Tillerson, Secretary of Defense James Mattis, former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon, and President Trumps son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner. Of Kushner, one source told BuzzFeed News, McMaster said he had no business being in the White House and should not be involved in national security issues.
(Catz) said the conversation was so inappropriate that it was jaw dropping, another source told BuzzFeed News.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,151 posts)Some of us murikans dont like folk with brainz
damm intullechuals
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)edumacated fuuls!!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)How could anyone come to any other conclusion?
KelleyKramer
(9,014 posts)And if there is any doubt, just watch any of his sit down interviews, it's nothing but word salad babbling
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)How long can we let this go on?
Freethinker65
(10,116 posts)cstanleytech
(26,361 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Take a political risk. It is extraordinary for an active duty officer at this level to make such a statement. McMaster is well regarded. Trump thought nothing of politicizing and aircraft carrier commissioning.
atreides1
(16,118 posts)If this is true, then General McMaster is in violation of Article 88 of the UCMJ:
"Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."
Maximum Punishment
Dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.
Hekate
(91,045 posts)...your right of free speech when you leave active military duty?
IronLionZion
(45,667 posts)he didn't retire. This is not the normal custom but there's no law against active duty military serving as national security advisor.
Hekate
(91,045 posts)TeamPooka
(24,304 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,218 posts)Rump would need at least two years of intensive tutoring to be accepted at a reputable kindergarten.
And damn the timing. Rump's next choice for a cabinet position just died.
pandr32
(11,644 posts)It seems to be a condition handed down to his children as well--a great example of how important it is to be a good role model for our children.
The fact that he is in our top office right now is a gut punch to our values and democracy. The whole world has noticed the absurdity.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republicans. Sigh. Sad.
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)I can hardly imagine McMaster or anyone in the meeting would leak this. This seems like the handiwork of Bannon to screw with a faction he hates.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)In the private world, Trump never had his intelligence called into question because just bullied and blustered his way through every transaction. Being president is a completely different ball game and Trump is being revealed for the imbecile that he is.
TeamPooka
(24,304 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,461 posts)that McMaster will be hauled before the cameras any second now to deny/withdraw his statement, kiss Trump's ring, and complain about "fake news".
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)Gothmog
(145,968 posts)Hekate
(91,045 posts)TeamPooka
(24,304 posts)rurallib
(62,483 posts)with a big mouth and a little brain.
No threat is too big for him to make. And he must follow through to be able to intimidate others.
So I truly fear he will launch "the bomb."
One of these sycophants needs to speak up now before he gets the world in a nuclear war.
But fucking over the country and making the big score is too important to them all.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)pnwmom
(109,025 posts)As much as I think DT is an idiot and a dope with the IQ of a two year old, I'm skeptical that McMaster would go around saying stuff like this.
But people who wanted to discredit McMaster with DT might want to spread the story.
NNadir
(33,587 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,603 posts)Kindys are a lot more honest, caring and compassionate than tRump is or ever will be.
Also, they have larger vocabularies.
NNadir
(33,587 posts)I'm sure most kindergartners are fine people.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,110 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)...as expected/advertised and what a country gets when a reality TV host is elected President. Clearly Hamilton and the rest of the founding fathers failed to fully flesh out the potential devastation of an electoral college.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/
The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nations founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called factions, which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madisons fear which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed the tyranny of the majority was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens. Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.
As Alexander Hamilton writes in The Federalist Papers, the Constitution is designed to ensure that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. The point of the Electoral College is to preserve the sense of the people, while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
bdamomma
(63,974 posts)is going to report on this next.
We already knew all this on tRump.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Trump can not let this stand.
Twitter tantrum will start shortly.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,461 posts)Toddler
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)then how is it that he's not lost ALL his money? I know he's been bankrupt and is probably in debt to the Russian mob up to his eyes, but still ??!?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)He also has the patience, empathy, sophistication and entitlement of a kindergartener.