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babylonsister

(171,112 posts) Mon Nov 20, 2017, 05:53 PM Nov 2017

Democrats Are Loading Up Devastating Nationwide Ads To Make Republicans Pay For Their Tax Cut Scam

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/20/democrats-loading-devastating-nationwide-ads-republicans-pay-tax-cut-scam.html

Democrats Are Loading Up Devastating Nationwide Ads To Make Republicans Pay For Their Tax Cut Scam

By Jason Easley on Mon, Nov 20th, 2017 at 11:11 am

Democrats are getting set to unleash a series of ads that will make Republicans pay a heavy price for supporting the tax cuts for the rich scam.

Greg Sargent of The Washington Post reported, “Democrats are set to go up on the air with a seven-figure TV ad buy targeting House Republicans in multiple districts with a lot of working-class whites — as well as in districts with more college-educated whites, I’ve learned. The animating idea is that the GOP tax proposals — which will be featured in the ads — are likely to prove toxic among both those constituencies and particularly among those working-class whites who switched from Barack Obama to Trump.”

Here is an example of the ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=_y4FbKfUawo

The ad is designed to target those working-class white voters in swing congressional districts who may have voted for Obama but were fooled by Trump’s populist rhetoric in 2016. There is an important dot that needs to be connected in the minds of voters. Not only will the Republican tax plan raise their taxes and cost them their health insurance, but it also triggers a $25 billion yearly cut in Medicare.

By passing this tax cut scam, Republicans handed Democrats a political gift, but it is vital that they translate the message to voters in an understandable way. Trump’s election has brought the Democratic Party into alignment with the mood of the rest of the country. Democrats are angry. Voters are angry. It is ironic that the culture of rage that Trump was able to cultivate in 2016 is being turned against the President and his own party.

The House is there for the taking in 2018, and Democrats are putting together the right message to turn feelings into votes next November.

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Democrats Are Loading Up Devastating Nationwide Ads To Make Republicans Pay For Their Tax Cut Scam (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2017 OP

is there a place to donate to help pay for these ads? Justice Nov 2017 #1

That is what I wanted to know too. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #3

Not One Penny is funding them csziggy Nov 2017 #30

They not only will end Medicare but isnt the corp tax cut written as such that it cant Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #2

It isn't possible. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #8

That is what I thought. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #9

I'm thinking "permanent" only really means codified and Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #12

Permanent means relative to the middle and lower brackets. mobeau69 Nov 2017 #15

Thanks. I understand now. (Bastards.) nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #22

i believe this is about the strictures of the process. mopinko Nov 2017 #25

Well, they'd better hurry the fuck up. maxsolomon Nov 2017 #4

No shit dalton99a Nov 2017 #7

Only a 7 digit figure? awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #5

Why dont you chip in some of your own lettuce. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #6

Did I touch a nerve? awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #11

Who said it was? But its better than nothing. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #13

"The tells are there".... awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #14

Indeed. Time for some heat and its a lot more than nothing.. mountain grammy Nov 2017 #18

thanks mountain grammy bdamomma Nov 2017 #24

Thank you for posting that. nt awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #26

K & R malaise Nov 2017 #10

What about tiptonic Nov 2017 #16

Paid for by not one penny. I am in. mountain grammy Nov 2017 #17

It's no accident they are timing this so most won't feel the effects until after the next election. Mr.Bill Nov 2017 #19

if the GOP paid $1000/hr for radio ads, rw talk radio is worth about $390MIL/month FREE to certainot Nov 2017 #20

Russia pays for a lot of repuke ads Skittles Nov 2017 #21

more significantly, russia has probably been paying guys like limbaugh for certainot Nov 2017 #23

K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #27

Well done! lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #28

The Donor Tax Scam needs to be squashed. democratisphere Nov 2017 #29

Justice

(7,188 posts)

1. is there a place to donate to help pay for these ads?

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 05:54 PM

Nov 2017

BigmanPigman

(51,674 posts)

3. That is what I wanted to know too.

Reply to Justice (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:16 PM

Nov 2017

csziggy

(34,141 posts)

30. Not One Penny is funding them

Reply to Justice (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:54 AM

Nov 2017

From the Washington Post article linked from the article in the OP:

The ads are paid for by Not One Penny, a campaign launched by progressive groups to oppose all tax cuts for millionaires, billionaires and big corporations. Tim Hogan, a spokesman for the group, confirmed to me that it would soon announce an ad buy of more than $1 million, targeting 25 House GOP districts, with around a dozen of them heavy on working-class white voters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/11/20/how-democrats-hope-to-make-trump-pay-for-his-awful-tax-plan/?utm_term=.f9b4efc94d10

Here is where you can contribute:

Not One Penny
in Tax Cuts for Millionaires, Billionaires, and Wealthy Corporations

In early November, Congressional Republicans released a bill that would give massive tax cuts to the rich and wealthy corporations. The cuts for the already-wealthy would come on the backs of seniors with fixed incomes and those who can least afford them. The last thing we need is for the tax code to be even more rigged in favor of millionaires, billionaires, and corporate insiders. Instead, we need to fight for a tax code that makes the economy work better for working families. Republicans' desires to cut taxes for corporations will undermine our commitment to public education, job training, Medicare, and Medicaid, and make it impossible to invest in the middle class.

Take the Pledge

I pledge to oppose any effort to cut taxes for the wealthy and well-connected. Not one penny in tax cuts for millionaires, billionaires, and wealthy corporations.
https://notonepenny.org/

Eliot Rosewater

(31,152 posts)

2. They not only will end Medicare but isnt the corp tax cut written as such that it cant

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 05:59 PM

Nov 2017

ever be changed?

And how is that legally possible in the first place?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,218 posts)

8. It isn't possible.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:59 PM

Nov 2017

Anything one congress passes can be undone by any subsequent congress (if they want to).

Eliot Rosewater

(31,152 posts)

9. That is what I thought.

Reply to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:01 PM

Nov 2017

By contrast, the bill still makes permanent the corporate tax rate cut to 20%, along with most other business tax provisions. As it is, Republicans in the House and Senate have already agreed to let a tax reform bill add $1.5 trillion to deficits over 10 years.5 days ago
Senate tax cuts: Permanent for business, temporary for you - Nov. 15 ...

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/15/news/economy/senate-tax-bill-changes/index.html

I havent read it all, still confused

Buns_of_Fire

(17,218 posts)

12. I'm thinking "permanent" only really means codified and

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:11 PM

Nov 2017

any fiddling around the edges by the IRS or any other agency is prohibited within the law itself. That's all I can think of.

mobeau69

(11,171 posts)

15. Permanent means relative to the middle and lower brackets.

Reply to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:27 PM

Nov 2017

The "cuts" for them go away over a few years but the ones for the millionaires/billionaires stay in place (unless changed).

I don't even want to get started on elimination of the estate tax. Total BS.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,218 posts)

22. Thanks. I understand now. (Bastards.) nt

Reply to mobeau69 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:15 PM

Nov 2017

mopinko

(70,394 posts)

25. i believe this is about the strictures of the process.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:01 AM

Nov 2017

i think this has to do w them keeping it within rules that allow them to pass w a simple majority. only so much the projected bill can raise the deficit. so they faze out the cuts, and it doesnt count.
voodoo math.

maxsolomon

(33,473 posts)

4. Well, they'd better hurry the fuck up.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:21 PM

Nov 2017

How will these ads make up for their inability to actually do anything to stop the GOP from upending the tax code?

dalton99a

(81,708 posts)

7. No shit

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:53 PM

Nov 2017

awesomerwb1

(4,270 posts)

5. Only a 7 digit figure?

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:41 PM

Nov 2017

That's less than $10 million. Meh

BannonsLiver

(16,548 posts)

6. Why dont you chip in some of your own lettuce.

Reply to awesomerwb1 (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:44 PM

Nov 2017

awesomerwb1

(4,270 posts)

11. Did I touch a nerve?

Reply to BannonsLiver (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:09 PM

Nov 2017

You must think 7 digits must be a massive amount of cash to spend on nationwide ads.

BannonsLiver

(16,548 posts)

13. Who said it was? But its better than nothing.

Reply to awesomerwb1 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:14 PM

Nov 2017

Bet you’ve never donated a nickel to anything though. The tells are there.

awesomerwb1

(4,270 posts)

14. "The tells are there"....

Reply to BannonsLiver (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:16 PM

Nov 2017

Whatever floats your boat.

mountain grammy

(26,676 posts)

18. Indeed. Time for some heat and its a lot more than nothing..

Reply to BannonsLiver (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:53 PM

Nov 2017

https://notonepenny.org/. Taking donations

bdamomma

(63,975 posts)

24. thanks mountain grammy

Reply to mountain grammy (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:57 PM

Nov 2017

awesomerwb1

(4,270 posts)

26. Thank you for posting that. nt

Reply to mountain grammy (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:12 AM

Nov 2017

malaise

(269,343 posts)

10. K & R

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:08 PM

Nov 2017

Great news

tiptonic

(765 posts)

16. What about

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:37 PM

Nov 2017

What about the vote 'shrinkage'. The tampering with the count, etc:. Thats important too.

mountain grammy

(26,676 posts)

17. Paid for by not one penny. I am in.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 07:48 PM

Nov 2017

Give what you can. https://notonepenny.org/

Mr.Bill

(24,376 posts)

19. It's no accident they are timing this so most won't feel the effects until after the next election.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:07 PM

Nov 2017

They are going all in on this with no thought to what happens after that.

certainot

(9,090 posts)

20. if the GOP paid $1000/hr for radio ads, rw talk radio is worth about $390MIL/month FREE to

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:31 PM

Nov 2017

the CONS.

here's the math :

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 5 = $75,000/wk x 1200 stations rw talk radio is worth $18MIL/day or 390MIL$ /month or 4.68 BIL$/ year FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican free market deregulation and wall st think tank propaganda, swiftboating of good citizens, attacks on public education and teachers, passing voter suppression legislation, trying to repeal obamacare, and the hate and fear used to get people to vote republican.

not only do dems ignore that, and start all political efforts that far down, we don't complain or protest the fact that 100s of the loudest of those stations, including 257 limbaugh stations, depend on hundreds of 'liberal' universities and pro sports teams to keep broadcasting sports on them. without those association that whole propaganda operation would fall apart.