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(145,968 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Nice flip eh?
MFM008
(19,837 posts)To flip it's because he's not the target...some other smelly rat is......a big fat maggot.
safeinOhio
(32,756 posts)the cornered animal.
Thing may get very ugly in no time at all.
Shipwack
(2,183 posts)I remember being excited when we all thought that Ollie North had turned and was going to dish on the Reagan administration. Instead, he took the immunity and sang their praises... :/
Qutzupalotl
(14,344 posts)Flynns lawyer had shopped him for an immunity deal, but got no takers in Congress, thankfully. Now hes subject to Muellers full pressure, and seems to have flipped on higher-ups.
onetexan
(13,081 posts)i've been smiling all morning since i heard this news on the early show
2naSalit
(86,968 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)I don't want him locked up.
I've been under the shadow of possible harsh legal consequences before and it is a darkness and despair I wish on no one.
Perhaps now he will become wise enough to comprehend the old adage - "All you do comes back to you."
bucolic_frolic
(43,511 posts)by the Spelling Police
Sphagetti? Is English your native language?
Just asking.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)and don't know how to change it. Any helpful hints?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,511 posts)Monsieur L. Coyote, you have stolen ze thouhgts from my little gray cellulars
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)And please feel free to pound sand at your earliest convenience.
Thanks.
safeinOhio
(32,756 posts)Alternative spelling..
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Say...North Korea...
dawg day
(7,947 posts)A man of great power and privilege who sells out his own country?
Why the hell not?
He knew what he was doing. He planned to kidnap a man, knowing that he was sending this man to his execution, for $15million. I think I'll save my sympathy for poor kids getting sent to jail for minor offenses like jaywalking-"resisting arrest."
It's important to hold rich and powerful criminals to the law, or there is no low-- there's only legally-sanctioned oppression.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)a couple of years or so and 5 community service...IF he cooperates.
John Dean did much, MUCH less and cooperated ans still did time.
This is BIG stuff.
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NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)The 12-pack microwave. Movie Theater Butter. And of course beer. 32-pack.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And I shorted Rosneft ....
lastlib
(23,389 posts)...trying to cover their shorts.......
. .
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)having the maid launder their shorts.
spanone
(135,950 posts)Hekate
(91,045 posts)FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)I'm sure he knows more than he's saying here, but he's careful not to tip Mueller's hand.
It seems that earlier reports that Flynn offered to testify against Trump and the offers were refused by the feds - they weren't refused but Mueller thought they were premature. Now Mueller has had over 6 months to check out leads on his own and he's ready to talk with Flynn about what he REALLY knows. Flynn will talk but he's going to jail anyway, the point is to try and get his son out of trouble. Mueller knows what he's doing, he's going after the Big Cheeto.
Upthevibe
(8,108 posts)..........
FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)Click on the tweet posted by the OP and follow down to the entries by Seth Abramson. I don't know who Seth Abramson is, but he's undoubtedly a lawyer. I'm guessing maybe a co-worker or colleague of Preet's (?).
Anyway in about 15 entries or successive tweets, this Seth Abramson lays out several good points about the NYT article and what we know about Flynn. It takes several minutes to read all of them, but they're very good and worthwhile.
Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)Mueller has good leverage on Flynn.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Two kids and a kid-in-law potentially indictable... but I don't think Trump would sacrifice himself to save them.
Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)Jared may be on his own, not sure.
But of course if push comes to shove, his kids are all on their own.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,097 posts)Maybe Flynn knows that his son will not do well under interrogation and in a court room, since he is crazy and not too bright.
He has to save him from all of that.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)gibraltar72
(7,518 posts)him Flipper. They call him Flipper.
Skittles
(153,312 posts)run for office, Preet!
oasis
(49,490 posts)Takket
(21,715 posts)A guy who can afford the kind of lawyers flynn surely has is not going to just flip unless he is dead to rights.
Wounded Bear
(58,793 posts)but he's getting close, I think. Hell, given what we know just by following the news reports, you figure Mueller has a lot more on Flynn than we do. Hell, everybody knows he violated FARA rules. Sure, he went back and filed post facto, but actually that is just a public confession. It doesn't exonerate him except in the most "friendly" of circumstances.
I think we've known for a while that Flynn was toast. Plus, if Trump tries to pardon Flynn, it kind of removes his 5th Amendment protections against self-incrimination.
NBachers
(17,191 posts)FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)Flynn's been paranoid ever since he was fired from the Obama administration (fired for cause too.) Now he'll know that everyone's against him. Ordinarily I'd kind of feel sorry for him.
But ... nah he deserves it.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)where Flynn falls on his sword and maybe implicates one other person and then Trump pardons them all or commutes their sentences.
FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)I think that ship has sailed, he's not getting immunity for himself, but apparently he can still help his son.
Trump has no interest in pardoning Flynn's son, and he doesn't seem too interested in helping Flynn either. The guy was trying to get Trump to pay for his defense lawyers, and he wouldn't even help with that. So much for the "loyalty test" right?