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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe thought he saw a deer and fired his pistol. Now, his neighbor is dead.
Jamie Billquist and his wife, Rosemary Billquist, who was killed Wednesday after a neighbor shot her in a field behind her house after mistaking her for a deer, according to the Chautauqua County Sheriffs Office
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/ar-BBFBGqr?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Denis 11
(280 posts)Then the glove is mistaken for the tail of the deer.
It is unfortunately not uncommon.
phylny
(8,396 posts)Woman was outside wearing white mittens. Consensus was SHE was at fault for her own death because everyone knew you dont wear white mittens during deer season. SMH.
ETA sorry, should have read the post below, same info.
Demsrule86
(68,837 posts)they need to punish careless gun 'accidents similar to vehicular homicides...and no hunting in suburban or areas with houses...bullets travel.
eShirl
(18,510 posts)How did I miss that detail earlier?
DFW
(54,518 posts)What handgun is accurate at 200 yards? I'm sure the guy had no intention of killing his neighbor, but no one forced him to go out hunting deer and shooting at 200 yards after the sun had set. That was an accident waiting to happen.
Plus--HOW is he ever going to be able to face his neighbor again? Even if the shooter gets off scot free, he'd be well advised to move somewhere certainly no closer than Bangladesh.
pansypoo53219
(21,013 posts)C Moon
(12,227 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)many lives ruined
what is he doing hunting in a neighborhood??
TeamPooka
(24,304 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)Hunter is a complete moron.
I wear orange and only leash walk the dog during deer season.
Damn bubbas.
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)"A neighbor, Thomas B. Jadlowski, thought he saw a deer in his back yard 200 yards away and fired a single shot. Then he heard a scream. Realizing he'd shot a person, he ran out to help, Chautauqua County Sheriff's Office officials said in a news release."
http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2017/11/he_thought_he_saw_a_deer_and_f.html
I'm confused about whose property the woman was on when she was shot. It might have been the shooters.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)"Jamie Billquist said that his wife was on the property of their next-door neighbor when she was shot. He said that Jadlowski didn't have permission to be hunting on the neighbor's property."
http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/24/husband-of-hunting-accident-victim-her-life-was-cut-way-too-short/
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)in a similar way in the state of Maine.They had just moved there with their infant twins. There was a trial, and the defense of the hunter was that he mistook her for a white-tailed deer because she was wearing white mittens. He was hunting very close to a residential area.
http://people.com/archive/a-tragic-hunting-accident-in-maine-kills-a-mother-in-her-own-backyard-and-ends-in-the-shooters-acquittal-vol-34-no-18/
avebury
(10,953 posts)They moved the trial. If they had not done that the guy would have been convicted.
Cattledog
(5,923 posts)and kill someone then say "I thought it was green" the cops won't charge me?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Idiot!
handmade34
(22,759 posts)I keep fluorescent orange vests for my guests to wear if they want to walk in my back woods...
Vinca
(50,334 posts)in a state park was shot. I don't think she was killed, but why the hell are hunters allowed in government parks when trails are open for hikers and cyclists?
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)And the guy shooting after dark was one.
It sounds like he used a high caliber single shot pistol with a scope. They make them than can take down a deer at that range. There are some people that carry them when hunting way back in rugged terrain because they are light and easy to pack, but a lot of them also get bought by poachers because they are easy to hide compared to a rifle.
Given the combination of using that kind of handgun and shooting after dark when he wasnt certain of his target Im certain this wasnt his first wildlife law violation. The story doesnt say who the property she was on belonged to but Ill bet that he didnt have permission to hunt there either.
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)"A neighbor, Thomas B. Jadlowski, thought he saw a deer in his back yard 200 yards away and fired a single shot. Then he heard a scream. Realizing hed shot a person, he ran out to help, said Chautauqua County Sheriffs Office officials in a news release."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/ar-BBFBGqr?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
LisaL
(44,985 posts)"Jamie Billquist said that his wife was on the property of their next-door neighbor when she was shot. He said that Jadlowski didn't have permission to be hunting on the neighbor's property."
http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/24/husband-of-hunting-accident-victim-her-life-was-cut-way-too-short/
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)But does not exonerate the shooter from responsibility as he was in the wrong regardless of whose property the woman was on at the time of the shooting.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)She was shot 200 yards from the shooter and 100 yards from her home.
"Jamie Billquist said his 43-year-old wife had been shot in the hip roughly 100 yards from their house."
http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/24/husband-of-hunting-accident-victim-her-life-was-cut-way-too-short/
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)Thomas B. Jadlowski lives on Cornish St. which is some distance from Armenian Road where the shooting took place. Jadlowski was out violating.
"Thomas B. Jadlowski, 34, lived barely a mile away on Cornish Street. He was out past sunset the legal limit for hunting at 4:46 p.m. that day. He also did not have permission to hunt on the property where Rosemary was walking her dogs."
http://mb.ntd.tv/2017/11/24/hunter-makes-fatal-mistake-shoots-woman-walking-her-dogs/
LisaL
(44,985 posts)she was shot.
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)Looking at Google maps, there's thick woods and an interstate between the shooter's home and where the lady was shot. The shooter was violating.
LisaL
(44,985 posts)It's less clear where exactly he was, since there is contradictory reporting on that.
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)Other sources say he lives on Armenian Road not too far from the victim's residence.
Also appears that the shooter is an NRA certified pistol instructor and an instructor for the Hunting Safety Classes required by New York.
Squinch
(51,090 posts)I don't care if it was in his bathroom.
Historic NY
(37,462 posts)some of the morons barely can use a rifle. I live 60 miles no. of the city and I don't go near the woods at this time of the year.
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)Bangor Daily News columnist: "If she had been wearing one piece of blaze-orange clothing, she'd be alive today."
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/10/magazine/a-killing-in-maine.html?pagewanted=all
A KILLING IN MAINE
By James Howard Kunstler; James Howard Kunstler is a novelist who writes about environmental issues.
Published: September 10, 1989
LAST YEAR, OUTSIDE Bangor, Me., on a November afternoon that could not have been more beautiful, Karen Ann Wood was shot in her own backyard by Donald Rogerson, a deer hunter. The 37-year-old mother of twin baby girls died minutes later. The incident aroused a furor in a state where the traditions of the great outdoors are more and more at odds with the realities of suburban sprawl. It grew even more bitter when a Bangor grand jury refused to indict the hunter, a homegrown son of Maine, on manslaughter charges, fueling an ''us-versus-them'' quarrel between natives and newer arrivals from ''away,'' as the rest of the world is called. Karen Ann Wood was from away. Wood and her husband, Kevin, had come to the Bangor area with their infant twin girls in July 1988 from Davenport, Iowa, where he had been in graduate school. The Woods had both grown up in the small, upstate city of Binghamton, N.Y., met in high school and married a few years later. They had postponed having children until Kevin Wood was settled in his profession as a child psychologist. The move to Maine also represented the fulfillment of a long-postponed desire: to resettle in the East.
A month after they arrived in Maine, the Woods moved into a new house, a slate-blue Cape Cod home, the last dwelling near the dead end of a one-street subdivision called Treadwell Acres in the town of Hermon, a few miles west of the Bangor city line. What had been forest and puckerbrush only 10 years before - prime deer-hunting territory - had lately burgeoned into a mixed suburb of industrial parks and new homes. The new house, the new children - a new life in Maine was the Woods' reward for the years of struggle in Iowa.
DON ROGERSON, 45, IS THE PRODUCE manager of a neighborhood supermarket in Bangor, a Boy Scout leader and a lifelong hunter. Neither he nor his hunting companion that day, Peter Anderson, a Bangor lawyer, would comment for this article, but in the days after the shooting Rogerson gave an account of the incident to local reporters.
At about 2:45 that Tuesday afternoon, the two hunters parked Rogerson's pickup in a dusty turnaround at the dead end of Treadwell Acres Drive, 200 yards or so past the Woods' house. There is no way they could have failed to notice that they were close to a residential neighborhood when they entered their hunting ground. The weather was perfectly clear, the temperature about 50 degrees.
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Oneironaut
(5,547 posts)I sometimes use a trail that permits bow hunting. Im afraid some moron will see movement and carelessly fire an arrow at us. All it takes is one dumb hunter.
People like this make gun control more likely. They are not responsible enough and too impulsive to carry any weapon.
dembotoz
(16,866 posts)And just think here in Wisconsin this year u can be shot by a toddler..age restriction removed
LisaL
(44,985 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)dembotoz
(16,866 posts)All of them with the expectation of killing something. U also have the pressure of needing to fire your weapon so u can justify ur masculinity at the water cooler at work on Monday.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Life loss because of some culture's ritual needs seen as sacrifice to it is not really an excuse but she herself is described as being in a open field not a wooded area .
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)... shot her at 200 yards, with a pistol.
"iffin" unbelievable.
WyLoochka
(1,629 posts)River runs right through town. They allow deer hunting on the north side of the river which is quite narrow, averaging 10-20 yards between the river and a steep canyon wall. The river ranges from 25 to 50 yards wide - then there is the south side river trail right there. And there are the fly fisher people standing in the river.
They are nuts here to allow this. Rarely see deer down there, but they are all over the place outside of town. This is a very small town. It's not like they would have far to go to hunt where they wouldn't endanger people.
Went down there yesterday in my blaze orange sweatshirt. Talked to one walker person who, while expressing a little discomfort at being caught in unsuitable clothing color for the hunting season said - "good hunters will position themselves so as not to let their bullets cross the river to the south side."
Unfortunately, not everyone is a "good hunter," as this tragedy in Chautauqua County clearly shows.
red dog 1
(27,935 posts)Jadlowski should be charged with manslaughter!
doodsaq
(120 posts)This is what happens when paranoid gun nuts think they have a right to shoot anything that moves to exercise their "freedom."
How about freedom to live, assholes.