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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Trump taking direct orders from Moscow?
Think about his behavior toward Russia and Putin, since becoming president.
He reveals information about Israeli operations in a meeting with the Russian ambassador and foreign secretary:
[link:http://www.newsweek.com/trump-revealed-secret-israeli-mission-northern-syria-russian-diplomats-720600|
Tillerson empties out the State Department (Could the CIA be next?)
[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/24/us/politics/state-department-tillerson.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0|
Trump has an "off-the record" tete-a-tete with the Pupper Master:
[link:https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/19/15997938/trump-putin-second-meeting-g20-secret-russia|
Trump accepts Russia's version of "reality" on Syria and Assad.
[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/us/politics/trump-bashar-assad-syria.html|
He drags his feet on implementing Russia sanctions:
[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/us/politics/trump-bashar-assad-syria.html|
The list goes on. Trump is EXTREMELY solicitous of Moscow's interest. He is either channeling Putin through some mysterious mind meld or taking direct orders from the Kremlin and turning the US into an adjunct of Moscow's foreign policy.
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)before his russian ties were discovered. Manafort was supposed to control and run trump for putin.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)bastard republican betrayers of the USA.
They_Live
(3,249 posts)intentional dismantling. Conspiracy against the United States.
gordianot
(15,259 posts)Donald Trump is correct about one thing he needs to fear the Deep State they will get him and his children.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)"When this all comes out, and it will, it's going to blow peoples' minds"
PLEASE hurry the fuck up, Mr. Mueller!
yardwork
(61,793 posts)Vinca
(50,334 posts)and he had to get it somewhere. Don Jr. and Eric seemed to back up the Russian business dealings. If you owe Vlad lots of loot and can't pay it back, there's a choice to be made. Lap dog or corpse.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Putin could probably buy and sell our "beloved" POTUS many times over. Many speculate he may be the world's richest man, worth more than Gates or Bezos.
DemoTex
(25,407 posts)Next question.
They changed the RNC platform after "they" (Sessions, Page, Trump Jr. Manafort, and maybe
Don Sr.) met with Ambassador KislyaK to make it more pro Putin in Cleveland in 2016.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-house-takes-flak-letting-russian-state-media-oval-office-n757936
And don't forget Don's White House meeting with Kislyak and Minster Lavrov where he let in Russian media,
but did not let in American media gave away top secret information, outed an Israeli agent in Syria and told
them that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation.
calimary
(81,608 posts)NEVER is heard a discouraging word about Vladimir Putin. And it's not just in tweets either. Nary a word of criticism leaves his stupid lips about Vladimir Putin. Putin is the ONE non-family individual who NEVER earns any criticism or verbal smackdowns or insults, and CONSISTENTLY escapes any negativity. trump is solicitous as hell when they meet. How long was their most recent meeting? An hour-and-a-half? What was he doing? Checking in with his boss for his next round of marching orders?
I think he's in so deep with the Russian mafia and other assorted oligarchs (who all somehow eventually trace their power and influence and financial positioning back to Putin) that he IS their puppet. They have him on strings, because of money. He's filed for bankruptcy so often that no American banks will lend him any more money, and to keep up that high life and wheel-'n'-deal all those fancy-ass real estate deals that he exploits for the big-shot PR payoff. So he tangled himself up with Russian dirty money and international crime bosses and high-rollers and he's in it UP To HERE. And let's not forget: he's NEVER coughed up his tax returns. Even the reluctant, secretive Mitt Romney finally caved on that.
I STILL want to see those tax returns. I bet they tell a whale of a story (the kind of whale-of-a-story he clearly wants to keep hidden).
Botany
(70,657 posts).... in the history of the world. They have their own banks, their own country (Russia), their own
media, the White House, their own hit men, cyber war capabilities, a large American political party's help,
social media, money laundering operations, spies, and billions if not trillions of dollars for their use.
BTW Paul Manafort was made Trump's campaign manager BECAUSE OF HIS RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS
he had never run a campaign before Trump's.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)Nothing more needs to be said.
debsy
(530 posts)It has been my opinion for over a year that The Dumpster is a Russian plant and we are undergoing a long-game coup. All of the people in the administration are hands-on involved in the coup (Rex Tillerson, Steve Mnuchin, Wilbur Ross, the two retired Generals, etc.) and Republican congressional "leaders" are complicit, at best, if not formally involved at some level. The game is to steal the vast wealth of the world and put a few people (the billionaires) in charge of the entire planet. It is a global kleptocracy being imposed by these thugs. We are rapidly losing our country and there isn't much we can do about it since they now have control of two of the three most powerful nuclear arsenals on the planet as well as massive arsenals of weapons of war to keep the population oppressed. In my opinion, Hillary actually won each and every contested state and is the legitimate President of our country. I believe the election was stolen but there is no way to prove it because one cannot prove that votes were changed on machines that keep no paper trail. They may forensically be able to show that someone hacked into the machines during an election which would provide circumstantial evidence that could imply votes were changed but - since they are planting extremist judges in strategic courts across the country - that issue isn't likely to yield any results. I feel like the only thing we could do to stop this coup is for EVERYONE in all the countries being overtaken to stop paying taxes. Even that would probably not stop the trajectory we are on since the people involved have so much money and power they would be able to continue the coup without any help from us. Pay attention to where Jared goes and with whom he is cavorting (Saudi Arabia, China, etc) to gain an understanding of who is involved globally in the coup. Jared was anointed to be in charge of everything so he is the point person in charge of coordinating the players. Conspiracy theorist? I think not.
no_hypocrisy
(46,312 posts)calimary
(81,608 posts)You make such a good point here that we must not forget. He's leaving a demon's legacy already - with all the judicial appointments that are thoroughly contaminating our system. THAT'S the farm team for future Supreme Court justices. And if the deck is stacked there, we're all screwed.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)He will do whatever Putin wants, that we can't stop him from.
jimmil
(629 posts)Gump takes his orders from a dog named Sam.
Butterflylady
(3,557 posts)We should call him comrade Trump.
linnknee
(52 posts)There is a recording of the Dotard talking to Putin about running for president. Putin had to be planning this massive election invasion for a while. The bastard was in bed with Russians for years. I'm thinking even the GOP primaries were rigged. Not that the other assholes were of presidential material.
Hillary had the most experience of anyone on the campaign trail and the poor woman got screwed big time. Seeing the con-family behind bars and penniless would be some what satisfying.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Russians knew a long time before Americans that he was running for President!
A lot of all that laid out in this amazing Twitter thread by Seth Abramson:
Link to tweet
Progressive dog
(6,933 posts)from Putin (or anyone). Trump's minders are there to keep him focused on what his daddy wants.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)mulsh
(2,959 posts)Look at just one piece of evidence, the rapid and thorough destruction of our State Department. Empty halls, no ambasadors in key country. you tell me who would do something like that to our country. Also, take a peek at what's being done at the DoJ if you have time.
If I didn't know better I'd think some nasty foreign adversary bent on delivering lasting damage to our country was calling the shots.
But of course since loser donny claims the new legal status of "totally denied"...
In today's NY Time, more of the inventory of the destruction of State
[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/24/us/politics/state-department-tillerson.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0|
edited to ad article.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)now I firmly believe they were right all along.
Wounded Bear
(58,792 posts)all the evidence is there.
Irish_Dem
(48,088 posts)-Steph-
(409 posts)far too numerous, and by too many people closest to Trump, for it to all just be some kind of innocent coincidence. I think it would be naive to even entertain that idea at this point.
I feel like our democracy, our standing in the world, anything that did make our country great, and our future, are all in grave danger. The biggest culprits, in my opinion, are 1.) the greediest of the top 1% and the interest groups that own the Republican party, and 2.) Russia. I think separately we're under attack by both, but I also think that without each other they wouldn't have been able to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the Presidency. Hillary Clinton was not good for either of their agendas. So there was overlap on a shared goal.. to defeat HRC.
I think most of the Republican party leadership would have preferred a different candidate to continue carrying out their transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top, but since they wouldn't be able to defeat HRC on their own, they've held their noses, and at the very least were complicit, (and in some cases much worse), as Putin installed Trump and other compromised people into the White House. I firmly believe that's what happened, and now here we are.... in very scary times, with two of the nation's biggest threats running the show.
Much like Putin's state-run media, the Republican party uses right-wing media to make useful idiots out of the general public. There's a large portion of voters out there, we've all seen them, that are brainwashed by right-wing media and aren't even aware that they're hurting themselves and the country. It's more important now, than ever, to continue resisting and to take our country back.
eShirl
(18,509 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,088 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Client State franchise definitely works.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)lpbk2713
(42,775 posts)And America will never be the same.