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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:50 PM Nov 2017

My rant about teen bashing

My rant about teen bashing

My opinion on a claim
https://www.benglasslaw.com/
that only 9 percent of teens without a summer job wanted one (“Sad commentary on most teenagers’ will to succeed”):
(The November newsletter is not yet posted on the website.)

1. WHO are the teens the writer was talking about? And where? And was the writer including those already holding part-time or full-time jobs? Or those helping out around the home supervising younger siblings during the summer?

2. 13-year-olds are generally unemployable. And many of the older teens are doing enrichment/chasing sports dreams/going to college/etc. during the summer. Let alone ‘the family is going to Disney/ the Grand Canyon/see Grandma/etc. this summer”.

3. And for those college-bound or in college, summer earnings can offset financial aid offers. And if they are wunderkidz, and paid as such, this can affect the family’s taxes (and the ACA calculations and penalties).

4. Where are the summer jobs? And who is hiring teens for them? Most notable are the theme parks (which is why much of Virginia can’t start (high) school until after Labor Day), agriculture, lawn care/landscaping, and construction. But if the nearest theme park is 80 miles away… Most employers would prefer year-around part-time/on call employees. (McDonald’s, Aldi, etc.) And there is competion for those part-time jobs from everyone else (including retirees).

5. Which teens can fill the jobs? DoD estimates that roughly 70 percent of its primary target recruitment group (ages 17-26) are disqualified from service, either on physical or moral grounds. Physical limitations reduce the ability to fill ag/land care/construction jobs, and moral issues also affect employer willingness to hire.

6. And parents may be afraid that once their kids start working, they will never “better themselves”.

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My rant about teen bashing (Original Post) nitpicker Nov 2017 OP
most of my teen jobs are all held by adults these days - deliver papers, burger flipper, dog msongs Nov 2017 #1
Exactly. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #2
Ben Glass Law? oberliner Nov 2017 #3

msongs

(67,504 posts)
1. most of my teen jobs are all held by adults these days - deliver papers, burger flipper, dog
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:53 PM
Nov 2017

walker, mow the neighbors' yards etc

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,930 posts)
2. Exactly.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 04:28 PM
Nov 2017

When I was a teen it was possible for a 14 or 15 year old to get a summer job, or even a part time one during the school year. I'm not totally up on all the child labor laws out there, but it's quite difficult for a kid to get a legitimate job before age 16.

My older son got his first job, a Christmas one at a Warner Brothers' Store, when he was a junior in high school. The manager of that store who seemed quite young herself (I didn't think she was over 25) was incredible. She very quickly assessed my son's limitations and only assigned him tasks he could do well. It gave him a wonderful ego boost when he was struggling in other areas.

Several years later during the summer, I sent him out to look for a job with a specific list of about three places to apply to. After two or three days he came back home with a look of dazed wonder on his face. The local McDonald's hired him. He worked that summer, then returned to college, and a couple of years later when he needed to find that manager for a reference, the manager really wanted to rehire him. That felt good.

My other son, was looking for summer work at one point, and a local car wash wouldn't consider him because they wanted only people who'd be permanent help. He thought that was a poor attitude on their part.

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