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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:38 PM Apr 2015

Lufthansa CEO at crash site: 'Long, long time' to understand

Source: Associated Press

SEYNE-LES-ALPES, France (AP) — Lufthansa's chief executive said Wednesday it will take "a long, long time" to understand what led to a deadly crash in the French Alps last week — but refused to say exactly what the airline knew about the mental health of the co-pilot suspected of deliberately destroying the plane.

Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr and the head of its low-cost airline Germanwings, Thomas Winkelmann, visited the crash area Wednesday amid mounting questions about how much the airlines knew about co-pilot Andreas Lubitz's psychological state and why they haven't released more information about it.

The two men laid flowers and then stood silently facing a stone monument to the plane's 150 victims that looks toward the French mountains where Germanwings Flight 9525 shattered into thousands of pieces on March 24. It bears a memorial message in German, Spanish, French and English.

Spohr said the airline is "learning more every day" about what might have led to the crash but "it will take a long, long time to understand how this could happen."

He then deflected questions from reporters at the site in Seyne-les-Alpes and drove away.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150401/eu--france-plane_crash-b58a1dd331.html



Yes, he couldn't get away fast enough.

"Your employee crashed a plane...why are you refusing to take questions??" shouted the press as he scurried away after his failed PR attempt.

Good livestreaming coverage here:
http://www.france24.com/en/
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Lufthansa CEO at crash site: 'Long, long time' to understand (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
translation Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #1
Yes, I'd say that translation passes muster as Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
But I understood it within seconds rocktivity Apr 2015 #3
You and me both, rocktivity. But, when I dared to advance Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
It wasn't the pilot's mental illness that caused the crash rocktivity Apr 2015 #5
Well, duh! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
Correct. Initially Luftansa claimed that it had no knowledge of his medical condition. Turns out appalachiablue Apr 2015 #11
This is going to come back and bite them hard in the bank account Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
Why would he take questions then and there? Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #6
Good question...why the hell did he call a high-profile press conference Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
You know public figures call for press conferences all the time Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #9
I'm sure they've got their 'crisis cell' on this 24/7. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
It took me a few seconds to understand Helen Borg Apr 2015 #13
It means we're going to stonewall as long as possible Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
1. translation
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:46 PM
Apr 2015

"We will do everything possible to stall and deny the obvious negligence in which we allowed a known psych case to fly a commercial passenger jet"

rocktivity

(44,581 posts)
3. But I understood it within seconds
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:00 PM
Apr 2015

The guy was too ill to be a pilot, and the airline didn't notice.


rockivity

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. You and me both, rocktivity. But, when I dared to advance
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

the mental illness hypothesis and to discuss it here, I was pilloried by the 'mental health' lobby.

rocktivity

(44,581 posts)
5. It wasn't the pilot's mental illness that caused the crash
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:13 PM
Apr 2015

it was Lufthansa's not noticing that he was too mentally ill to be a pilot that caused the crash.


rocktivity

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Well, duh!
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:21 PM
Apr 2015

Which is precisely why I dared to argue for better monitoring and reporting requirements.

Oh là là. Quel panier de crabes...
(What a snakepit...)

Equating mental illness with violence,

Stigmatizing all mental sufferers as murderers,

Advocating forced universal health monitoring--

Just a sample of the allegations directed at me.

Ouuuf !


appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
11. Correct. Initially Luftansa claimed that it had no knowledge of his medical condition. Turns out
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:44 PM
Apr 2015

they did, after many damaging assumptions and charges about a mentally ill person concealing their illness and who was at fault for not informing the airline including his flight attendant girlfriend, his family and the doctors who treated him. The airline obtained 2009 medical records Re his depression treatment including email correspondence with his doctors.

An aviation analyst and journalist who appeared on CNN last night, Miles O'Brien said that Germanwings is a low cost, regulation reduced subsidiary that not only doesn't pay pilots much but it keeps them on so they can pay back instruction costs that they owe Luftansa for training.

A medical examiner with the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) stated that many pilots and drivers don't disclose on company forms their DUIs, medications or domestic abuse allegations. Yet some pilots now being treated for depression with certain approved medications are being trained with the assistance of airlines according to another industry rep.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. This is going to come back and bite them hard in the bank account
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:02 PM
Apr 2015

once the court cases start. I see a very expensive 'class action' on the horizon.

'Initially Luftansa claimed that it had no knowledge of his medical condition.'

They will be chastened for this egregious deceit.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. Why would he take questions then and there?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:15 PM
Apr 2015

And even if he did, what else would he have said other than "The investigation is ongoing and we are fully cooperating with the BEA?"

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. Good question...why the hell did he call a high-profile press conference
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:24 PM
Apr 2015

if he didn't intend to talk to the press?

Empty corporate damage-control, PR posing.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. You know public figures call for press conferences all the time
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:32 PM
Apr 2015

just to deliver prepared statements without taking questions, right?

Yeah, it's just PR/crisis communications, but it's being handled a million times better than Malaysia or some other airlines in the past...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. I'm sure they've got their 'crisis cell' on this 24/7.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 01:36 PM
Apr 2015

Damn, you'd hope they wouldn't make a complete dog's dinner of it.

Their whole corporate image is built on their reputation for 'safety first'.

'Best in the world', as the same CEO announced on the day of the crash...

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
13. It took me a few seconds to understand
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:36 PM
Apr 2015

After the facts were made available... What is he talking about? Or does he mean it in a philosophical/existential way, why some people kill themselves, what is the meaning of all this, and so on?... Odd statement.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. It means we're going to stonewall as long as possible
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:45 PM
Apr 2015

before we have to admit before a court, that we screwed up and are liable for the wrongful deaths of 149 people.

See this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141055649#post1

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