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Omaha Steve

(99,799 posts) Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:59 AM Apr 2015

Webb (D-VA) touts experience, military service in Council Bluffs

Source: nonpareilonline

By John Schreier

Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb, a possible Democratic presidential candidate in 2016, opened a four-day tour of Iowa with a meet-and-greet Thursday at the Council Bluffs Public Library.

During his visit, the former Secretary of the Navy touted not only his military credentials but also his experience in foreign policy and Washington. He cited the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill he authored, signed into law into 2008, as an example of a triumph to help what he called the “next Greatest Generation.”

“At a time when Washington was paralyzed, we were able to build a coalition in 16 months,” Webb said.

The presidential hopeful, who said he wanted to restore Democratic Party of FDR and Truman of bringing a voice to the voiceless, laid out the following topics as his priorities:

Reorienting” a national security policy
• Economic fairness and social justice
• A balance of power between Congress and the presidency
• A “writ large” reformation of the criminal justice system

FULL story at link.

Former Virginia senator Jim Webb speaks to supporters at the Council Bluffs Public Library on Thursday. Webb is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in the 2016 election. Staff photo/Joe Shearer

Read more: http://www.nonpareilonline.com/news/local/webb-touts-experience-military-service-in-council-bluffs/article_77859bce-e5ef-520d-a2f3-7b992183ba5f.html

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Webb (D-VA) touts experience, military service in Council Bluffs (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP

I'm listening. tabasco Apr 2015 #1

I'm a progressive. earthside Apr 2015 #2

then you don't know his stands very well OKNancy Apr 2015 #4

he has a bad record on climate change,Affirmative Action and other problems OKNancy Apr 2015 #3

That will not have an iota of effect cosmicone Apr 2015 #5

I felt the need to finally write about him OKNancy Apr 2015 #8

Thanks for posting! n/t cosmicone Apr 2015 #10

Well, I see you've got your talking points attack list. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #11

actually I'm just doing what the Hillary detractors do Larry. OKNancy Apr 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #13

no worries Steve. OKNancy Apr 2015 #14

So that makes her right and immune to criticism? Larry Engels Apr 2015 #15

I can't get on staff for a few more days because of a lock in January Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #16

OK, once you're on staff, I will be sure to grovel to all your remarks. :) Larry Engels Apr 2015 #17

Already did Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #18

Jim Webb's role in this race is to make Clinton look more liberal nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6

Well, except maybe on foreign policy, criminal justice, and Wall Street. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #21

No thanks, Mr. Confederate! leftofcool Apr 2015 #7

... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #9

I love The Band! Levon Helm forever! leftofcool Apr 2015 #19

... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #20

Why are his palms so red? tularetom Apr 2015 #22

just what we need, another militarist who will fleece the taxpayers even more for his MIC buddies nt msongs Apr 2015 #23

He opposed the war in Iraq before and during the war. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #24

Snore. BlueStater Apr 2015 #25

Please don't get me, a Black man, started ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #26

tabasco

(22,974 posts)

1. I'm listening.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:00 AM

Apr 2015

I have a favorable opinion of Senator Webb.

earthside

(6,960 posts)

2. I'm a progressive.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:07 AM

Apr 2015

But I would vote for Jim Webb long before I'd ever vote for Hillary.

It isn't just about stands on specific issues ... it's about temperament, about being willing to be different, to challenge the establishment. Webb is not a conventional politician and that is a plus, in my opinion.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

4. then you don't know his stands very well

Reply to earthside (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:11 AM

Apr 2015

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

3. he has a bad record on climate change,Affirmative Action and other problems

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:10 AM

Apr 2015

But when it came to actual legislation, Webb used his six years in the US Senate to stand in the way of Democratic efforts to combat climate change. Virginia, after all, is a coal state, and Webb regularly stood up for the coal industry, earning the ire of environmentalists. As Grist's Ben Adler succinctly summed it up, "Jim Webb sucks on climate change."

Perhaps Webb's biggest break with the standard Democratic position on climate is his vocal opposition to the use of EPA rules under the Clean Air Act to limit carbon emissions from coal power plants. Earlier this year, the Obama administration proposed regulations that could cut existing coal plant emissions by as much as 30 percent below 2005 levels by 2030. Those new rules became a key factor in the historic climate deal Obama recently reached with China, and they will almost certainly figure prominently in next year's Paris climate negotiations. But back in 2011, Webb went to the floor of the Senate to denounce the idea that the federal government has the power to regulate carbon emissions under existing law. "I am not convinced the Clean Air Act was ever intended to regulate or classify as a dangerous pollutant something as basic and ubiquitous in our atmosphere as carbon dioxide," he said.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/jim-webb-climate-change

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and he is not a liberal by any means

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/23/really-jim-webb-for-president/

read it....

just a small sample:

Among the hits that would resurface in a presidential campaign:

Webb has spoken fondly of his Confederate roots and defended the Southern states' decision to secede, even citing the "Nazification of the Confederacy."
He said in 2004 that John Kerry deserved to be condemned for his actions in opposition to the Vietnam War.
Webb's writings and comments have been criticized by the left for being insensitive to women.

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Then this:

In the piece, he argued against race-based diversity programs like Affirmative Action and said that poor and working-class Southern whites have been ignored by policy-makers and lumped together into "a fungible monolith." He wrote about the lack of college degrees in this group, painting a more diverse picture of white America.

Contrary to assumptions in the law, white America is hardly a monolith. And the journey of white American cultures is so diverse (yes) that one strains to find the logic that could lump them together for the purpose of public policy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/05/jim-webb-and-the-democrats-white-man-problem/

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)

5. That will not have an iota of effect

Reply to OKNancy (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:16 AM

Apr 2015

on the stubborn "anyone but Hillary" crowd.

Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if one or two of them even preferred Ted Cruz over Hillary.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

8. I felt the need to finally write about him

Reply to cosmicone (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:19 AM

Apr 2015

Thousands of words written here about how awful Hillary is so it's time to have a little balance.

I figure those who support him really don't know his record.

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)

10. Thanks for posting! n/t

Reply to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:22 AM

Apr 2015

Larry Engels

(387 posts)

11. Well, I see you've got your talking points attack list.

Reply to OKNancy (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:28 AM

Apr 2015

Doing a little oppo research, Nancy? Gotta go on the offensive right away, huh? That's Hillaryland for ya.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

12. actually I'm just doing what the Hillary detractors do Larry.

Reply to Larry Engels (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:33 AM

Apr 2015

If every single Hillary move is posted here, then it's fair to post about others.
It's not "Hillaryland" it's called a discussion group.

I know you would like for people who support Hillary to stay quiet, but no such luck.

ETA: I just saw your negative LBN post about Hillary's poll numbers. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Right Larry?

Response to Larry Engels (Reply #11)

Omaha Steve This message was self-deleted by its author.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

14. no worries Steve.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:35 AM

Apr 2015

Larry Engels

(387 posts)

15. So that makes her right and immune to criticism?

Reply to Omaha Steve (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:39 AM

Apr 2015

Is that one of the rules here? Never criticize the unpaid staff? Thanks for the heads up! I guess you're off-limits, too.

Omaha Steve

(99,799 posts)

16. I can't get on staff for a few more days because of a lock in January

Reply to Larry Engels (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:46 AM

Apr 2015

I'd rather see the DU going after opinions rather than individuals for their opinions. But I break that rule too. Ask anybody.

Anyway it looks like Nancy didn't mind, so I sure don't. I'm going to self delete the comment.

Larry Engels

(387 posts)

17. OK, once you're on staff, I will be sure to grovel to all your remarks. :)

Reply to Omaha Steve (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:47 AM

Apr 2015

And yes, you should delete it.

Omaha Steve

(99,799 posts)

18. Already did

Reply to Larry Engels (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:49 AM

Apr 2015

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

6. Jim Webb's role in this race is to make Clinton look more liberal nt

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:17 AM

Apr 2015

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

21. Well, except maybe on foreign policy, criminal justice, and Wall Street.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:15 PM

Apr 2015

All of the possible candidates are "not liberal enough" on something.

I like his stands on the issues I mentioned; the white Southern heritage thing, not so much.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

7. No thanks, Mr. Confederate!

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:19 AM

Apr 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)

9. ...

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:22 AM

Apr 2015

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

19. I love The Band! Levon Helm forever!

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:50 AM

Apr 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)

20. ...

Reply to leftofcool (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:52 AM

Apr 2015

tularetom

(23,664 posts)

22. Why are his palms so red?

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:30 PM

Apr 2015

Actually I'd like to see him get into the race. He'd cut into Clinton's support among the redneck demographic and make it easier for an actual Democrat to get nominated.

msongs

(67,465 posts)

23. just what we need, another militarist who will fleece the taxpayers even more for his MIC buddies nt

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:14 PM

Apr 2015

Larry Engels

(387 posts)

24. He opposed the war in Iraq before and during the war.

Reply to msongs (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:23 PM

Apr 2015

So "militarist" is unfair.

Of course he will just be another Wall Street tool like Hillary, but unlike her, with her high negatives on both the right and the left, he has a chance of winning the election.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)

25. Snore.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:05 PM

Apr 2015

Still don't know why this dude is even running. Such a random candidate.

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)

26. Please don't get me, a Black man, started ...

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:37 PM

Apr 2015

If he was the Democratic nominee, I'd hold my nose and a couple other body parts, and vote for him, because I can't see him as worst for this country than the republican candidate ... even if he won't serve my personal interests.

Then, move the hell out of this country if he won.

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