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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:52 AM Apr 2015

Iran suspends 'lesser pilgrimages' to Saudi Arabia by minors - reports

Source: The Guardian

Tension rises between countries amid reports of alleged abuse of Iranian pilgrims and Saudi-led strikes on Shia rebels in Yemen.

The report said Iran’s culture ministry made the decision after two male Iranian pilgrims were allegedly abused at Saudi’s Jeddah airport in March. The alleged abuse, the details of which authorities have not publicly discussed, has sparked unauthorised protests at the Saudi embassy in Tehran.

About 500,000 Iranians visit Saudi Arabia each year for the Umrah, or lesser pilgrimage, which involves Muslims visiting Mecca and Medina, two of Islam’s holiest sites. It is different to the major pilgrimage of Hajj.

Tensions between the Shia stronghold of Iran and the Sunni kingdom of Saudi Arabia have been strained amid Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen targeting Shia Houthi rebels.


Muslim pilgrims touch the Kaaba as they perform the Umrah in the Grand Mosque al-Haram al-Sharif in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Photograph: Ali Haider/EPA

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/13/iran-suspends-lesser-pilgrimages-to-saudi-arabia-by-minors-reports



Sunni and Shia - shite hits the fan.

Islam's deep-seated divisions are becoming every more apparent and destablizing to the region.
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Iran suspends 'lesser pilgrimages' to Saudi Arabia by minors - reports (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
UPDATE 1-Iran suspends Saudi pilgrimage flights over sexual assault allegations bemildred Apr 2015 #1
So, the REAL allegations are coming out... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
Reality is fungible these days. bemildred Apr 2015 #4
Waging a war for 'hearts and minds' in the world press... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
"Waging war" sort of not good at all. bemildred Apr 2015 #6
And, the longer they stonewall against any kind of reform, Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
SA makes a BUNDLE off of Iran every year for this and the Hajj. MADem Apr 2015 #3
Once again the detestable House of Saud is in the headlines. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
You better visit the holy sites in SA while they exist... DetlefK Apr 2015 #9

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. UPDATE 1-Iran suspends Saudi pilgrimage flights over sexual assault allegations
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:53 AM
Apr 2015

(Reuters) - Iran has suspended flights to Saudi Arabia for the year-round Umrah Islamic pilgrimage over allegations that Saudi security officers sexually assaulted two Iranian boys, Culture Minister Ali Jannati said on Monday.

The move is likely to deepen tensions between the two regional powers, who are at odds over the war in Yemen.

The teenage boys alleged last week that the officers abused them while conducting a security search at Jeddah airport.

"Until these guilty people are put on trial and punished, the Umrah will be stopped and Iranian flights will be suspended," the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA) cited Jannati as saying.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/04/13/iran-saudi-idINL5N0XA18R20150413

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. So, the REAL allegations are coming out...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:03 AM
Apr 2015

These two regional rivals had better work out their differences.

The Shia vs. Sunni rift cannot just be pushed under the diplomatic carpet.

This is precisely the kind of incident that can and will be exploited by either side, to gain leverage in regional tensions.

The legitimacy of the two Iranian boys' allegations notwithstanding.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Reality is fungible these days.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:11 AM
Apr 2015

I dunno how "REAL" this is, but it's plausible.

However, this is not a sign or mutual accord, no. And the fact they want to talk about it in the press is not good at all.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. "Waging war" sort of not good at all.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:16 AM
Apr 2015

When Saudi Arabia falls into chaos, it will make this now look good.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. And, the longer they stonewall against any kind of reform,
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:22 AM
Apr 2015

and remain retrenched behind their compound walls, the worse the conflagration will be.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. SA makes a BUNDLE off of Iran every year for this and the Hajj.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:09 AM
Apr 2015

The Guardian Council might want to suggest that people stay home for awhile--it would hit the Saudis in the wallet, big time. Tour operators would have to slash prices, vendors would not make as much money. It's not like there are not a lot of shi'a shrines in Iran and Iraq that aren't worthy of pilgrimage, after all. Qom, Mashad, Karbala, all in Iran, Nejaf and Kufa in Iraq, and a lot of places in Damascus as well...

The shi'a want control of (or at least some say over) the holy places in Meccah and Medina...if the political infrastructure of Saudi Arabia is ever destabilized, those will be among the first places that are secured by opposing forces.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Once again the detestable House of Saud is in the headlines.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:19 AM
Apr 2015

The Iranians are right. Islam's holiest sites belong to all believers, not just those corrupt, heretical hypocrites.

H of S lucked out twice. Sitting on the biggest pool of black gold in the world, AND having Islam's holiest of holies on their territory.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
9. You better visit the holy sites in SA while they exist...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:21 AM
Apr 2015

About 2 years ago Saudi-Arabia demolished the house where Mohammed's wife had lived... to make way for a hotel.

What do you think where ISIS has this doctrine from to destroy places of worship? (Because they are "idols".) Saudi-Arabian Wahabism.

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