GOP: Obama war request is dead
Source: The Hill
President Obamas request to use military force against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria terrorists is dead in the House, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy declared on Monday.
The California Republican told reporters Obamas request for an authorization of use of military force, or AUMF, could not attain a simple 218-vote majority in the lower chamber.
I do not see a path to 218 with what the president sent up because the world has become more dangerous since he laid out Yemen as the strategy of how to move forward, McCarthy told reporters in a briefing in his office. This would weaken our ability to respond to our current situation.
Administration officials have held up the U.S.s counterterrorism efforts in Yemen as a model for success in battling Islamic extremists, but ongoing fighting there prompted the U.S. to close the U.S. embassy and evacuate military personnel.
Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/238619-gop-obama-war-request-is-dead
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Doing your job!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Turbineguy
(37,375 posts)when Clinton tried to go after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)So we wouldn't have to fight them here. If Obama needed a vote for world peace, the GOP would vote NO!
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)declaring that only members of the Republican party could hold elected or appointed public office, Ted Cruz would commandeer the floor of the Senate and decry it as a liberal conspiracy...
Doc Holliday
(719 posts)Ever since the Vietnam War.
My response then and now was and is, "Maybe if we were fighting them here we could beat them."
But beating them is not even part of the plan anymore, is it?
Botany
(70,614 posts)try to say that is a lie.
madokie
(51,076 posts)He knows that, I know that, most everyone paying attention knows that.
fuck a bunch of crybaby racist 'CONs
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They NEED Isis to be out there to pump up the fear.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)samsingh
(17,602 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)samsingh
(17,602 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I really don't feel all that threatened by two and three year-olds........
samsingh
(17,602 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)But although security experts and officeholders like McCaul are now making bold statements about the dangers of terrorists from Chechnya, the White House has been publicly silent on the region for years.
A Smart Politics study of presidential statements and speeches finds that Barack Obama never mentioned Chechnya prior to the Boston bombings, with the last time any president mentioning the region coming in November 2005.
Bill Clinton, whose administration overlapped both Chechen wars in the mid- and late-1990s and into the 21st Century, mentioned Chechnya 74 times as president across 42 different public speeches and written statements.
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2013/04/off_the_radar_chechnya_never_m.php
April 19, 2013
The revelation that the family of the two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings was from Chechnya prompted new speculation about the attack as Islamic terrorism. Less discussed was the history of U.S. neocons supporting Chechen terrorists as a strategy to weaken Russia, as ex-FBI agent Coleen Rowley recalls.
By Coleen Rowley
I almost choked on my coffee listening to neoconservative Rudy Giuliani pompously claim on national TV that he was surprised about any Chechens being responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings because hes never seen any indication that Chechen extremists harbored animosity toward the U.S.; Guiliani thought they were only focused on Russia.
Giuliani knows full well how the Chechen terrorists proved useful to the U.S. in keeping pressure on the Russians, much as the Afghan mujahedeen were used in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan from 1980 to 1989. In fact, many neocons signed up as Chechnyas friends, including former CIA Director James Woolsey.
For instance, see this 2004 article in the UK Guardian, entitled, The Chechens American friends: The Washington neocons commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own.
https://consortiumnews.com/2013/04/19/chechen-terrorists-and-the-neocons/
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)It might be that I just dont like war, but I believe that unexpected attacks from the air that kills civilians really pisses people off.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Now I prefer cloudy days when the drones dont fly. When the sky brightens and becomes blue, the drones return and so does the fear. Children dont play so often now, and have stopped going to school. Education isnt possible as long as the drones circle overhead.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/pakistan-family-drone-victim-testimony-congress
central scrutinizer
(11,665 posts)that is the Repugs answer to everything.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Then the GOP couldn't run on the war.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)They want "war", they don't want "war"...
Up is down and down is up...black is white and white is black...
The Opposite World of the Pukes and Baggers.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)rainmaker21
(52 posts)I'm not sure who we are fighting, who we are against, who is for and who is against? It has turned into complete chaos.
Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)We have always been fighting Eurasia. This will continue, until the fight is with Eastasia. We will have always been fighting Eastasia.
It's best to stop thinking and love ... our military/industrial/surveillance brother.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)we could say Libya has was a thrumming, oil-rich liberal democracy until we lost a consul, and Assad could be blamed for only so long: at the moment we're aiding both the "Free Syrians" and giving all our intel to Assad; Israel likes al-Qaeda's an-Nusra, and the US is starting to be AQAP's air support against the Houthis, which Tehran supports, while we fight alongside the Iranians, battling ISIS (whose front groups we all support) alongside the Shiite death squads
Riyadh is also playing its own game--like late-70s Buenos Aires, the best place for its expert torturers and throat-cutters and professional rape-instructors is abroad
I think I left a lot out, though (plus all our 80s shenanigans with Zia and Nimeiry and Azzam)
rainmaker21
(52 posts)But it is all too confusing. I'm pretty sure none of it is doing us any good.
Botany
(70,614 posts)Each time when you think they can't sink any lower they do.
President Obama has been given the almost impossible job of
cleaning up the mess caused by Dick and w's war which gave life
to ISIS.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Yeah, right, sure, right.
K&R
We really do need to stop saving the children by killing the children...
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:24 PM - Edit history (1)
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)And what they have to do with the link I provided, is that they both depict acts of cowards who're acting in our name. Destroying the homes, hospitals, and schools of civilians. While killing children, babies and their mothers without impunity and without fear of anyone in the world standing-up against them. Except idiots like myself, who are determined not to live a lie. Especially someone else's.
- They have to do with the fact that the authority not being granted by Congress in this case so that such inhumane carnage is less likely to continue, forwhateverfuckingreason, is fine by me.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)...I really really really wish Obama would come out in opposition to raising the minimum wage to $20/hr. I also wish he would vocally oppose taxing the wealthy. He should also make a strong statement opposing universal single payer health care.