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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:43 AM Apr 2015

McCain: Rand Paul 'Worst Possible Candidate' On National Security

Source: TPM

By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published APRIL 23, 2015, 8:07 AM EDT

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) on Wednesday took a jab at Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and his presidential run, declaring Paul to be the worst Republican on security issues.

"Sen. Paul is the worst possible candidate of the 20 or so that are running on the most important issue, which is national security," McCain told Fox News' Neil Cavuto. "The record is very clear that he simply does not have an understanding about the needs and the threats of United States national security."

McCain was responding to Paul's Tuesday comment that McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were Obama's "lapdogs."

And even though McCain relentlessly mocked Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) earlier this week, he said he'd prefer Cruz over Paul. "Ted Cruz has a much better handle on our national security issues," McCain said.

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Video of McCain's appearance at link
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McCain: Rand Paul 'Worst Possible Candidate' On National Security (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
McCain is up to something.... FarPoint Apr 2015 #1
On Monday he ridiculed Cruz for claiming he had spoken to McCain... DonViejo Apr 2015 #2
Lindsay Graham has been rumored to run for POTUS. Fuddnik Apr 2015 #4
Nah, I've met McCain many times MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #6
You're right JonLP24 Apr 2015 #9
I spent two weeks working with the man MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #12
Who's the first? Reter Apr 2015 #13
Not going to say who is worst as he (or she) is still there (and a D). MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #15
Takes one to know one. SamKnause Apr 2015 #3
Oooh, they're hungry. Have some Freedom Fries, Johnny! n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #5
Still itching to BOMB BOMB IRAN n/t durablend Apr 2015 #7
I strongly disagree JonLP24 Apr 2015 #8
Yes, he's anti-imperialist. But then, there's the rest of the package. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #17
Trust me -- I know that JonLP24 Apr 2015 #18
Like being called ugly by a toad. yellowcanine Apr 2015 #10
It's not just paul, it's all the republican "candidates." joshdawg Apr 2015 #11
but every Democrat pretty much does the same thing JonLP24 Apr 2015 #19
Thanks for posting this. Beauregard Apr 2015 #23
Yes, she said to give the president authority to go to war, joshdawg Apr 2015 #27
of course national "security" is the most important issue to ole johnny boy. no concern for niyad Apr 2015 #14
Can't he see Alaska from his house? (shut up McCain you tool) fbc Apr 2015 #16
And so the Ratfucking begins denem Apr 2015 #20
Granddaddy War Bucks is grumpy. Rand Paul doesn't promise enough wars. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #21
:) Beauregard Apr 2015 #24
McCain is inspired by Obama to run again yurbud Apr 2015 #22
I agree, he is hoping for the "draft Hanoi Johnny" movement to come to fruition. TexasTowelie Apr 2015 #26
Wow NobodyHere Apr 2015 #25

FarPoint

(12,466 posts)
1. McCain is up to something....
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:46 AM
Apr 2015

I sense a manipulation in the mix. Why is he trashing his own cronies? What will be the gain down the primary campaign trail?

Just a feeling.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. On Monday he ridiculed Cruz for claiming he had spoken to McCain...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:53 AM
Apr 2015

when he hadn't. He back pedaled the next day, calling Cruz something like a "good guy, a good Senator." McCain might just be jealous, he had to wait in the wings of the Party before he could obtain the GOP nomination. Carnival Cruz and Randy Rand are in their first terms and running.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
4. Lindsay Graham has been rumored to run for POTUS.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:18 AM
Apr 2015

McCrazy is trying to clear the field for his BFF.

Talk about a circle jerk- McCain, Cavuto, Paul, Cruz, and Graham.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
6. Nah, I've met McCain many times
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:38 AM
Apr 2015

He's not up to something.

He's just really, really, stupid with the amazing sense of entitlement and self-worth that comes from the combo of being surrounded by "yes" men and being so stupid that you think you are smart.

Second biggest putz in the Senate (not talking politics-wise, talking personality/intelligence wise).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. You're right
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:57 AM
Apr 2015

I live in Arizona. Trust me you're right.

He obsessed over building the "dang fence" so much oh god he wouldn't stop talking about the "fence". I can't find that excellent 4 page article on drug trafficking but the "fence" was a highlight.

Drug Smugglers Use Catapult to Launch Bales of Pot Across Border

Grainy surveillance video shows drug smugglers putting a new twist on their crime by using a catapult to launch small bales of marijuana across the Arizona-Mexico border.

The video was taken the night of Jan. 21 by National Guard troops monitoring a series of surveillance cameras near Naco, Ariz., officials from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/drug-smugglers-catapult-launch-marijuana-arizona-mexico-border/story?id=12776586

The same 4 page article also highlighted there was also a push to send more border agents right now so that to hire more, took shortcuts such as background checks which meant finding border agents to bribe were easier to find. Basically highlights the stupidity from the idea McCain thought was so smart

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
12. I spent two weeks working with the man
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:09 AM
Apr 2015

(Really his aides) on a bill. (I was working with a Democratic Senator.)

Anyway, we spent many hours together, including a small plane ride from AZ to Washington DC.

Every day, he met me for the first time. As it, he'd introduce himself warmly, shake my hand, and ask me my name. It was clear he had no recollection of me because I was not significant enough for him.

Now, this is hardly an uncommon problem in DC. Sen. Kay Barely Texan was similar. As are a number of prominent Democrats I won't mention.

I will say Ted Kennedy was genuinely a warm guy, who not only remembered your name, but what you drank, your wife's name, kids names, and how they were doing in school. Yeah, he was a drunk, but he was a good guy and very smart/committed. Tip O'Neil (showing my age) was similar. I walked past him going to coach and he got up and insisted my wife and baby take his and his place in first class because we had a new baby.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
13. Who's the first?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:14 AM
Apr 2015

Personality/intelligence wise? Hmm. Cruz is pretty damn book-smart, so I won't put him at worst. Santorum would have won this, but he hasn't been a Senator in years.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
15. Not going to say who is worst as he (or she) is still there (and a D).
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:17 PM
Apr 2015

I don't know the new crop very well, if at all.

I saw Cruz argue before the Supreme Court, and he was very funny and engaging while he argued an absurd position. He's a really, really good lawyer. The kind I would hire if I was really in trouble on something. He could disagree without being disagreeable, which is rare among lawyers these days. I have no idea what he is like as a person. Probably pretty arrogant.

Never met Santorum, but I will say he gives me the willies. His staff was rude because I was a Democrat lawyer. Very adversarial, which is stupid, because 90% of the stuff we did is stuff that is almost ministerial and the parties (and people) agree on.

Know nothing about Rand Paul and have never even seen him in person. His father was furtive and kind of quick-moving. Reminded me of Gollum. I think he was horrified that a Jew was talking to him.

Joe Biden is exactly as he appears. Very nice, kind of goofy, but a genuine person. Surprisingly dapper. You know the silver fox guy on Mad Men? That's an exaggerated TV version of Joe Biden.

I will pick on one Democrat: John Kerry. If Ted Kennedy was a 9/10 on the scale of likability, John Kerry was a 1/10. Really a complete entitled asshole. Basically the Democrat version of McCain.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
3. Takes one to know one.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:02 AM
Apr 2015

He has never met a war he doesn't love.

Anyone who runs with Sarah Palin on their

ticket as their VP, should remain silent FOREVER !!!!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. I strongly disagree
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:50 AM
Apr 2015

Aside from becoming hawkish on Iran right before a GOP primary overall he isn't bad. Disclaimer: Doesn't mean I agree with Rand Paul on every single issue.

Needs & threats, I get tired of "national security". US acts like they are some beaten up victim of big bad bullies.

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
17. Yes, he's anti-imperialist. But then, there's the rest of the package.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:38 PM
Apr 2015

He also wants to roll back all the gains made by working people over the last 100 years.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. Trust me -- I know that
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:40 PM
Apr 2015

I'm always afraid to say I agree on an issue especially if it is civil liberty related like the Patriot Act or anything similar. Sometimes just simply arguing an anti-NSA viewpoint gets me an accusation of being a Libertarian.

joshdawg

(2,652 posts)
11. It's not just paul, it's all the republican "candidates."
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015

Not a single one of them has any knowledge of just how national security should be handled.........except to start a war.

joshdawg

(2,652 posts)
27. Yes, she said to give the president authority to go to war,
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 06:56 AM
Apr 2015

BUT only after all diplomatic avenues have been exhausted. bush threw away diplomacy. He only wanted war, period.
The current candidates for the republican ticket all want war. No diplomacy. No peace talks. Nothing else except to help their donors from the MIC.

niyad

(113,628 posts)
14. of course national "security" is the most important issue to ole johnny boy. no concern for
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015

the environment, for our appalling social conditions. . . nah, none of those are important.

just a reminder, johnny, YOU unleashed one of the most clueless cretins around on the national stage, so you have no room to talk.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
22. McCain is inspired by Obama to run again
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:11 PM
Apr 2015

Since Obama is the first black president, McCain figures he can be the first albino centenarian president.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
25. Wow
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:16 PM
Apr 2015

Being criticized by McCain as "Worst Possible Candidate" on National Security.

That's pretty much the highest honor there is in regards to that area.

Hilary and Cruz have some catching up to do.

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