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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:35 PM Apr 2015

Mountaineers, guides stream from Everest after avalanche

Source: AP News - excite

KATHMANDU, Nepal (AP) — Mountaineers, guides and porters streamed from Mount Everest base camp on Sunday in the wake of a deadly earthquake-triggered avalanche that obliterated parts of the rocky village of nylon tents. Some warned that dozens of people may still be missing.

The worst injured were ferried out in helicopters, while those remaining at base camp endured a series of powerful aftershocks, some of which caused smaller but still terrifying avalanches in the surrounding mountains.



This photo provided by Azim Afif shows the scene after an avalanche triggered by a massive earthquake swept across Everest Base Camp, Nepal on Saturday, April 25, 2015. Afif and his team of four others from the Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM) all survived the avalanche. (Azim Afif via AP)


The avalanche on Saturday, set off by the massive earthquake that struck Nepal, left at least 18 people dead and dozens more injured. Overall, the quake killed more than 2,500 people.

But as the first stunned survivors of the avalanche reached Kathmandu, Nepal's capital, they said that dozens of people may still be missing and were almost certainly dead.

"The snow swept away many tents and people," said Gyelu Sherpa, a sunburned guide among the first group of 15 injured survivors to reach Kathmandu.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150426/as-nepal-earthquake-avalanche-6886dc98e5.html




The United States Geological Survey said the quake struck 81 kilometres (50 miles) northwest of Kathmandu at 06.11 GMT, with walls crumbling and families racing outside of their homes






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Mountaineers, guides stream from Everest after avalanche (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
and they wanted to build a ski resort on Mt. Shasta in Calif. CountAllVotes Apr 2015 #1
People will insist on trying to dominate nature to their detriment. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
What a mess we've made of that once-pristine mountain ailsagirl Apr 2015 #6
that's a disgraceful trash heap wordpix Apr 2015 #14
I read that there is a... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2015 #17
Yes, the article from Time... ailsagirl Apr 2015 #22
Sagarmatha (Nepalese name of mt) is angry & sending a message wordpix Apr 2015 #23
Amen, wordpix ailsagirl Apr 2015 #24
rich assholes need somewhere to play Skittles Apr 2015 #25
That is despite nature scoring several million to love cosmicone Apr 2015 #8
It opened 29 years ago. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 #20
There were plans to build another one CountAllVotes Apr 2015 #21
It says the Khumbu icefall is blocked, no descent possible. Are there still climbers at the higher hlthe2b Apr 2015 #3
Yes, that is the fear. Khumbu is the only way down if anybody was up above it. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
They can take 2 people at a time from Camp 1 muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #19
This from the article: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
They will have to send a team from below and thread cosmicone Apr 2015 #7
Reasonably dramatic video Bosonic Apr 2015 #9
it sounded like one guy was having trouble breathing wordpix Apr 2015 #15
Certainly both Scootaloo Apr 2015 #26
YIKES. I can't help it - very uneasy feelings. calimary Apr 2015 #10
For those who paid for an "adventure" for their LuckyLib Apr 2015 #11
More likely the people at the higher camp were setting ropes and moving gear up to the higher camps. FSogol Apr 2015 #12
Helicopters can take 2 down at a time from Camp 1 muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #18
A long, LONG time ago... NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #13
your wife is practical but some people get lucky up there wordpix Apr 2015 #16

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
1. and they wanted to build a ski resort on Mt. Shasta in Calif.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:03 PM
Apr 2015

Smart idea U.S. Forest Service? It took a huge avalanche to put a stop to it. They did not have to wait for a huge quake to hit lucky for them.

Big mountains and active volcanos (esp. those that have huge faults running through them) and earthquakes don't exactly go well together I'd say.

& recommend.

ailsagirl

(22,901 posts)
6. What a mess we've made of that once-pristine mountain
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 04:02 PM
Apr 2015

Frozen (many unidentified) bodies scattered about, knapsacks, tents, oxygen masks, all sorts of litter... How sad it is we can't simply revere this breathtaking mountain instead of turning it into an enormous garbage heap. Some, however, have braved the elements to begin removal of what has been left behind.

TIME: Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay climbed Mount Everest for the first time 60 years ago today. Climbing is more common now — and the mountain has become a trash heap

http://science.time.com/2013/05/29/60-years-after-man-first-climbed-everest-the-mountain-is-a-mess/

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
17. I read that there is a...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:34 AM
Apr 2015

POO Glacier at camp one (I think) that is slowly sliding down the mountain...Along with all the other crap you mentioned. Now add who knows how many more bodies to the total already up there...SAD on many levels.

ailsagirl

(22,901 posts)
22. Yes, the article from Time...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 06:00 PM
Apr 2015

(the link) mentioned excrement as but one of the myriad items befouling the area.

Yes, very sad.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
23. Sagarmatha (Nepalese name of mt) is angry & sending a message
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:54 PM
Apr 2015

Stop treating the mountain like it's a Disneyland-Waste Management Inc. hybrid.

ailsagirl

(22,901 posts)
24. Amen, wordpix
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:12 PM
Apr 2015

As your wonderful signature line states-- one of my favorites.

"Man" is like the proverbial bull in a china shop.



 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
8. That is despite nature scoring several million to love
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 04:30 PM
Apr 2015

Not many humans have ever survived against ferocious nature.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
21. There were plans to build another one
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

It was to be at the summit of the mountain near a sacred spring. Those plans are now gone as the avalanche that occurred was in 1996 I believe it was closed the area off once and for all. Today you can only get as far as about 4,500 ft. up on that side of the mountain.

Thank god for the power of mother nature in this case!



hlthe2b

(102,456 posts)
3. It says the Khumbu icefall is blocked, no descent possible. Are there still climbers at the higher
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015

camps? That article is surely sketchy for an ap report, IMO.

I comment on this aspect of the earthquake, not meaning to take away anything from the epicenter of this quake and the more widely spread and unfathomable human disaster...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Yes, that is the fear. Khumbu is the only way down if anybody was up above it.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:19 PM
Apr 2015

Helicopters cannot go above base camp. Too little air to hold them up.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,399 posts)
19. They can take 2 people at a time from Camp 1
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:57 AM
Apr 2015
Gavan reported the evacuation on Monday morning on Twitter: “Stranded climbers evacuation from camp1&2 continues. 3 helis fly non stop. Only 2 people per shuttle due to high altitude. Weather good.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/27/climbers-at-everest-base-camp-face-race-against-time-after-nepal-earthquake

Judging by the rest of that report, the weather is not longer good, which may suspend the flights.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. This from the article:
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:29 PM
Apr 2015

'Numerous climbers remained stranded Sunday on routes above base camp, but teams in contact by satellite telephones said no one was believed to be in danger or running short of supplies.'

So, maybe they'll be able to struggle down on their own. Up and over the blocked Khumbu icefall.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
7. They will have to send a team from below and thread
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 04:29 PM
Apr 2015

a rope bridge to bring the climbers to safety. The dual ropes allow climbers to come down over treacherous terrain -- albeit one at a time. It is a long process and could take as much as half a day per climber.

Long time ago when I was climbing in Uttarakhand, we had to do something similar on Chaukhamba glacier's icefall to bring injured climbers down.

I hope they all come back without a scratch.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
15. it sounded like one guy was having trouble breathing
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 08:11 PM
Apr 2015

although he obviously wasn't buried. Was that a combination of shock and thin air? Anyone know?

Pretty horrifying video as I'm watching safe in my home with the fire burning.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Certainly both
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 04:21 AM
Apr 2015

"Thin air" is a bit of a misnomer. Denver has "thin air." Everest is almost to the point of "atmospherically challenged." And it's cold. very cold. I imagine being smacked by an ocean of snow traveling faster than the speed of sound doesn't make things any warmer. And, yes, there's the panic factor.

it's a terrifying video

calimary

(81,554 posts)
10. YIKES. I can't help it - very uneasy feelings.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 05:18 PM
Apr 2015

I am very concerned about those climbers still stranded up there. Dear God I hope they get out! And yet there's a part of me that goes directly to "maybe this is Mother Nature telling people they really don't belong here"?

I've seen reports of so many tourists and climbers and visitors and thrill-seekers up there at times that they leave an eyesore of "civilization" behind. Litter all over the place, junk and discards and plastic and crap and trash cluttering the grounds. Tourism literally creates crowds during climbing season. It overcrowds those slopes and people start taking their safety for granted. Especially the relative novices. There was one photo I remember where there was a ridiculously long line of climbers snaking up the mountain. There was literally a CROWD on that mountain. I couldn't believe how many people were up there.

On edit - HAH - I just saw Post 6. THAT was one of the photos I saw. The mountain is nothing but a garbage dump.

WTF, people?????

LuckyLib

(6,821 posts)
11. For those who paid for an "adventure" for their
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 06:33 PM
Apr 2015

bucket list, but who are not really climbers, being trapped above will be disastrous. Many of the prepared rope routes have been obliterated or damaged. They are now way out of their league.

FSogol

(45,562 posts)
12. More likely the people at the higher camp were setting ropes and moving gear up to the higher camps.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015

I suspect, they'll work out a way down.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
13. A long, LONG time ago...
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 08:02 PM
Apr 2015

I was getting in shape and saving money and vacation time for an Everest adventure. There has been talk through the years that good commercial guides could get someone to the top if they were in really good shape since Everest isn't necessarily a "technical" climb according to most real climbers. Who wouldn't want to stand on the top of the world, even if it's just for a few minutes?

Scenarios like this are what my wife used to talk me out of my folly.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
16. your wife is practical but some people get lucky up there
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

good weather, good climbing friends, get to the top and get down in great shape.

These people had an earthquake and an avalanche, maybe more than the one we know of. The weather also looked bad that day, kind of a "greyout."

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