and everybody in the world knows this, except the American people. I'm not sure why...plausible deniability, or the chance that the People would object to current foreign policy?

The lesson of Vietnam still scares the govt. It may never get over it, and learn the real meaning: don't do evil!

i.e. Boston marathon bombing by Chechen terrorists.

Shooting ourselves in the foot is something we are so good at!

The particular administration has little to do with these career administrators,syate dept, cia etc, the various pro democracy think tanks, etc.

For a long time the USA has had a very sensible immigration attitude for Chechens...we don't let any in. For good reason, Chechens are nuts.

The Boston Bombers have some connection to various deep state officials through their uncle Ruslen.

AngryAmish

You are right about Chechen's being nuts - they are maybe some of the best warriors around - something they show clearly in the 1990s - when Russia twice used the full force of the army - and got kicked out of the Republic as the russian army, air force and special forces was treated as the enemies they was - and where the tjetsjen leaders was clever using all the tools of the trade - knowing the territory as they own back hand and therefore being able to inflict as much pain as human possible on russian forces... For Russians it was a horrible time where soldiers was killed left, right and center - even if they used some of the most heavy handed approach possible for the russian forces... The first war was known for their shelling of the capital Grozny - the next war a few years after - was known for doing the same, to make it even worse for the civilians - Grozny was a ruin heap for the most part after two wars where russian forces had bombing the city to ruins - and where civilians was treated horrible - ten of thousands ended up as refugees - others was refugees inside their own country - others had to leave for the mountains - as guerrilla fighters - or to areas who was to remote for the russian army to try to conquer again....

The current russian-led dictator of Chetchenia - is supported by the russian federations - and is clearly a friend of the current Russian President - and have managed to "govern" his principality as best he is able - by using excessive force to quell all form of Resistance against the current leaders in the republic - and he have also being able to rebuild Grozny - thanks to large sums given by the russian federations - even if they are been a price for it all - the current leaders and leadership, is a brutal one - no democracy there - rather a brutal regime where all form of Resistance have been treated horrible - killing, maiming and in so many cases - people leaving as refugees - and then be killed abroad - or in other parts of the Russian Federation when they are not news-worthy anymore...

Not to say - Chechen's have for a long time - in fact going centuries back - been used as bodyguards - and assassins by the russian government - they are brutal - effective - and is not caring about collateral damage either.. But they are known for being able to do what they is ordered to be doing... and is also known as loyal - as long as they is getting their money....

Diclotican

The best warriors around...Chechens v Ghurkhas v Mexican Zetas.

If we could get them together. And leave the civilized alone.

is your preference, Fox News or Ukraine Today?

shouldn't accuse others of bias.

Not surprised you missed the point that I was referring to Putin--whose allegations the AP was reporting.

But hey, carry on.

clearly putin you were referring to. Anyone would know that except the laughable putin protectors.

Nope, it must be true.

And Iraq was connected to 9/11.

Hell, the US probably was to some extent. But I'd like very much to see people here not falling over themselves to believe every word that comes out of Putin's mouth about the US.

I learned long ago it does not matter how disgusting or evil the dictator is he will always have his supporters here on DU...These same people will claim to be strong defenders of "Liberal Values". smh.

with the source of the quotes.

AP is the source of the quotations. But Putin is the source of the information in the quotations. It's not like the AP is vouching for the truth of Putin's every word any more than it vouches for the truth of words spoken by other politicians.

The story is that Putin spoke and uttered certain words. That's as far as the AP's truth-telling goes.

What's amusing is that Putin speaks and people believe it must be so. Meanwhile, there are tanks and weapons systems never possessed by Ukraine being used in the Donbas that almost certainly came from Russia (with everything but the prerequisite chain of custody and paper trail with equipment serial numbers). And, again, Putin speaks so it must be so.

Makes me feel like crossing myself and saying, "In the name of the Lenin, the Stalin and the Holy Putie-Poot" while facing east towards the true source of all Russian Christianity, the Crimea.

jakeXT

To be honest - Russia have had its share of making Tsjetsjenia a proving ground for extremists - as the country have always been rather heavy-handed in its approach to the republic - and the two wars in the 1990s was not exactly making any friends to russia in the area - rather the opposite...

But I'm not surprised if US have poked its nose into the soft underbelly of Russia also - as it was stated already 150 years ago - when the Imperial Russia and UK was fighting for supremacy in the area - and it was a statement who still is valid - as the whole Caucasus is a rather messy area, where no one really have control - and where specially Russia have been bleed dry many times - when they have tried to enforce its will - and the enemy as it was, have hurt them badly - and even at the best of times - the different republics inside the Russian Federations have been rather autonomous - at the worst of times - the whole area have been lawless - and ruled by old traditions and rules who is ancient as the time itself....

But then - ACPC and the Neo-cons have always tried to mess up things - regardless how it is - to make things worse - they have been rather clever doing it with horrible consequences for the ones who live in Caucasus - and for large areas around this area... Who still, for the most part is ruled by traditions and customs who people outside of the area have great problems understanding - but who is understood clearly by the ones who live inside the area... It is, in a matter the last "lawless" frontier of Europe - as Caucasus still is part of Europe - even if it have evolved largely outside of anything european... Or maybe it is the rest of Europe who have evolved different from Caucasus as the area have been rather closed off from the rest of Europe...

To touch Caucasus without knowing its history - and how its really work - is outright stupidity if you ask me... The best is to do less to mess up things in Caucasus -rather than trying to impose something that the people of the area would not... They have a tendency to be rather independent that way....

Diclotican