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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:51 AM Apr 2015

U.S. Jobless Claims Fall to Lowest Level in 15 Years

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Economy | Economic Data

Claims fall to 262,000 in latest week, consistent with healthy job growth

By Ben Leubsdorf And Kate Davidson
kate.davidson@wsj.com
@KateDavidson

April 30, 2015 8:33 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON—The number of Americans applying for first-time unemployment benefits tumbled last week to the lowest level in 15 years, a reading consistent with healthy job growth.

Initial jobless claims, a proxy for layoffs across the U.S. economy, fell by 34,000 to a seasonally adjusted 262,000 in the week ended April 25, the Labor Department said Thursday. That was the lowest level for initial claims since April 15, 2000. ... Economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal had expected 288,000 new claims last week. Claims for the prior week were revised up slightly to 296,000.

Data on applications for unemployment benefits are volatile from week to week. In general, claims remain at low levels consistent with solid job growth. The four-week moving average for initial claims, which smooths out some volatility, fell by 1,250 last week to 283,750.
....

U.S. hiring slowed sharply in March, with the Labor Department reporting the smallest growth in nonfarm payrolls since the end of 2013.

Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-jobless-claims-fell-to-262-000-in-april-25-week-1430397186



I decided to stop posting these in LBN some time back, unless there was something newsworthy about them. I consider a drop of 34,000 newsworthy.

Read the words carefully; these are initial jobless claims.

ETA News Release: Unemployment Insurance Weekly Claims Report (04/30/2015)

News Release

U.S. Department of Labor Employment and Training Administration Washington, D.C. 20210
Release Number: USDL 15-771-NAT

Program Contacts: Tom Stengle (202) 693-2991
Tony Sznoluch (202) 693-3176
Media Contact: (202) 693-4676

TRANSMISSION OF MATERIALS IN THIS RELEASE IS EMBARGOED UNTIL 8:30 A.M. (Eastern) Thursday, April 30, 2015

UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WEEKLY CLAIMS
SEASONALLY ADJUSTED DATA


In the week ending April 25, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 262,000, a decrease of 34,000 from the previous week's revised level. This is the lowest level for initial claims since April 15, 2000 when it was 259,000. The previous week's level was revised up by 1,000 from 295,000 to 296,000. The 4-week moving average was 283,750, a decrease of 1,250 from the previous week's revised average. The previous week's average was revised up by 500 from 284,500 to 285,000.

There were no special factors impacting this week's initial claims.

The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 1.7 percent for the week ending April 18, unchanged from the previous week's unrevised rate. The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending April 18 was 2,253,000, a decrease of 74,000 from the previous week's revised level. This is the lowest level for insured unemployment since December 2, 2000 when it was 2,229,000. The previous week's level was revised up 2,000 from 2,325,000 to 2,327,000. The 4-week moving average was 2,290,750, a decrease of 18,500 from the previous week's revised average. This is the lowest level for this average since December 23, 2000 when it was 2,288,500. The previous week's average was revised up by 500 from 2,308,750 to 2,309,250.

UNADJUSTED DATA

....
The total number of people claiming benefits in all programs for the week ending April 11 was 2,440,229, an increase of 6,021 from the previous week. There were 2,822,340 persons claiming benefits in all programs in the comparable week in 2014.
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U.S. Jobless Claims Fall to Lowest Level in 15 Years (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 OP
THANKS OBAMA!!!! winstars Apr 2015 #1
If you think President Obama controls the economy, you are sorely mistaken. Beauregard Apr 2015 #15
No, I thank my parents for giving me a sense of humor.... Jeeze, please switch to the decaf... winstars Apr 2015 #23
Thanks Obama! Botany Apr 2015 #2
"First time claims" .... Myrina Apr 2015 #3
Typical. Just trying to bash Obama. How sad. Yes, these are first time claims. That is how they okaawhatever Apr 2015 #12
These are just first time unemployment claims. Ace Rothstein Apr 2015 #18
This is newsworthy...Thanks for posting this. Stuart G Apr 2015 #4
Let's see if I can predict the BS doomer spin whatthehey Apr 2015 #5
Re: "the better known headline UE rate" mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 #6
I'm no insider, but I don't expect significant change whatthehey Apr 2015 #7
What is your point? When the month ends on Thursday they would have to spend the entire okaawhatever Apr 2015 #13
I'm pretty sure that poster is being sarcastic. Ace Rothstein Apr 2015 #20
Thanks, but mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 #21
Lots of minimum wage part time jobs project_bluebook Apr 2015 #8
Not true. Read the BLS report and get back to us. Nice try at slamming Obama though. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14
Nice try at slamming my post project_bluebook Apr 2015 #25
Your comments are completely off topic and ridiculous. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #28
+1. Beauregard Apr 2015 #16
This objection doesn't even make sense, even if it were true whatthehey Apr 2015 #22
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. His/her position is ridiculous. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #26
right back at you project_bluebook Apr 2015 #30
I'm sure you and the wall street banksters are happy with this report project_bluebook Apr 2015 #27
By hype do you mean facts? nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #29
Obama is a Communist and a Muslin. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #9
And he doesn't even like country music Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #10
Thanks Obama treestar Apr 2015 #11
But the fact is-- Beauregard Apr 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #19
Well . . . blame it on Obama. LOL. Vinca Apr 2015 #24
 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
15. If you think President Obama controls the economy, you are sorely mistaken.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:13 PM
Apr 2015

So don't thank him, thank the business cycle.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
3. "First time claims" ....
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:25 AM
Apr 2015

... and I may be wrong but these numbers don't include folks who have dropped off the Unemployment roles and are just kinda ... floating.

Oh and woo hoo yay, bring on the minimum wage jobs! You'll starve and be homeless, but you have a JOB! Thanks Right-To-Work governors!

okaawhatever

(9,469 posts)
12. Typical. Just trying to bash Obama. How sad. Yes, these are first time claims. That is how they
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:06 PM
Apr 2015

always measure it. That is what is lowest in 15 years. Apples to apples

Sad that you just can't admit that Obama's policies, with other things, is bringing the economy back.

Yes, there are minimum wage jobs. That is where any recovery starts. If you look at the higher paid jobs they have rebounded recently.

Ace Rothstein

(3,195 posts)
18. These are just first time unemployment claims.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:21 PM
Apr 2015

This number has nothing to do with the unemployment rate that is released monthly.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
5. Let's see if I can predict the BS doomer spin
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:53 AM
Apr 2015

"They don't count you if your benefits have run out!"

This, at least the headline number, is a metric of initial claims;people who just started asking for benefits (and BTW yes the better known headline UE rate does indeed include you even if your benefits have expired)

"There's nobody left working to lay off!"

Other than the 147 million people working, 3 million more than a year ago

"Everybody just got minimum wage McJobs instead!"

Which doesn't explain why median income is rising slowly, and for nonsupervisory (no Bill Gates in a bar excuses either) workers is well above $20/hr. Hours worked sre rising slowly too. If the median is rising, more jobs must be being filled above it than below it, QED.

"They're fudging the numbers to make Obama look good! It's all lies!"

Which begs the question of why he let himself look bad for years, and why a workforce of many hundreds of people spanning the political gamut are in silent conspiracy to help one Dem who cannot run again, all\ without a single even Enquirer-level expose.

EDIT - serves me right for breaking off to answer emails in the middle of a post - we got a couple of these posted already in the interim!



Admittedly not a tough prediction, as we've seen every single one of them raised to even the most tepid of welcome news on the jobs front.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
6. Re: "the better known headline UE rate"
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015

Ordinarily, the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases that information on the first Friday of the month. That is, you would expect April's figures to be released tomorrow. Due to the lack of time to compile and assess the information, the BLS won't be releasing the data until next Friday.

"The Employment Situation for April is scheduled to be released on Friday, May 8, 2015, at 8:30 a.m. (EDT)."

I hope to be here for that.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
7. I'm no insider, but I don't expect significant change
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:29 AM
Apr 2015

In fact if I were forced to guess, and guess is all it is, I'd venture that increase in jobseekers nudges U3 up to 5.6 even though number employed will surely rise.

That and $1.99 will get you a cup of coffee.

okaawhatever

(9,469 posts)
13. What is your point? When the month ends on Thursday they would have to spend the entire
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

night in the office to get the report ready for tomorrow (assuming all the data has come through). Stop trying to make what is obvious into something that it isn't.

Conspiracy much?

Hate Obama much?

Ace Rothstein

(3,195 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure that poster is being sarcastic.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:23 PM
Apr 2015

Basically saying everyone is going to claim conspiracy since they are pushing the release back a week. I think that is standard SOP for the BLS in this situation though where the first Friday of the month is the first day of the month.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
21. Thanks, but
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:12 PM
Apr 2015

all I'm doing is alerting my thousands of fans people who have nothing better to do than to wait for the BLS's monthly employment report that there won't be a post Friday morning because of the delay.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
25. Nice try at slamming my post
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:25 PM
Apr 2015

if you want to buy into the income inequality economy that's your problem and I don't believe everything Obama's yes men say.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
22. This objection doesn't even make sense, even if it were true
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:15 PM
Apr 2015

This metric is one of initial claims. People just recently laid off or otherwise separated from employers who want to start getting benefits.

The only way minimum wage part time jobs would even apply in reducing this number is if

1) people got their metaphorical pink slips (aside question; has anybody recently actually received a slip of pink paper in this case?) and instead of filing a claim like a normal person to get the ball rolling and THEN start looking for work, they chose to stop by McDonalds on the way home to fill in an application.

2) They were hired on the spot, and decided that a minimum wage part time job was better than receiving benefits and having time to look for a full time job in their own trade or profession (and even if you got 30 hours at minimum wage, barely part time still, this would only make financial sense even assuming you LIKED working essentially for free if you were previously paid under 22000 a year), and so did not bother to file an application at all. If you made more than that before becoming unemployed, which the vast majority do, your benefits, in a less-than generous RW state I checked based on a web search (MO) would exceed that 30 hours at min wage, even assuming no deductions on wages.

So your suggestion relies on there being huge swathes of low wage workers who would rather clean out grease traps for 30 hours a week rather than file for benefits that would be the same income, were capable of being immediately hired for these jobs, and who made that decision before filing an application. In other words they would have to be either terminally bored or terminally stupid low income people who were nevertheless impressive enough to be hired immediately.


Not all that likely really.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
27. I'm sure you and the wall street banksters are happy with this report
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:30 PM
Apr 2015

but I refuse to buy into the hype.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Vinca

(50,319 posts)
24. Well . . . blame it on Obama. LOL.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:28 PM
Apr 2015

(You know the GOP is going to say it's because they got the majority in Congress.)

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