Navy To Escort U.S. Commercial Ships Near Iran
Source: CNN
Washington (CNN)CNN has learned that U.S. Navy warships will now accompany every U.S.-flagged commercial vessel that passes through the Strait of Hormuz due to concerns that ships from Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps navy could try to seize a U.S. cargo ship.
The classified plan was approved by the Pentagon Thursday, according to a senior defense official.
While the Navy maintains a routine ship presence in the Persian Gulf and the North Arabian Sea, this new effort specifically requires an armed warship to be in the narrow channel between Iran and Oman when a U.S. commercial vessel passes through.
The decision to go ahead with this plan comes as Iran Revolutionary Guard ships harassed a U.S.-flagged vessel, the Maersk Kensington, on Friday and then later seized another cargo ship, the Maersk Tigris, flagged in the Marshall Islands.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/30/politics/us-navy-escort-cargo-ships-iran-strait-of-hormuz/
hack89
(39,171 posts)the world never changes.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Sorry couldn't help myself.
hack89
(39,171 posts)happyslug
(14,779 posts)Given that in 1980s the US Navy had its biggest fight since WWII in the Gulf, the snakes operating small boats is what I would be afraid of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
Even RT, in 2011, reported that the Russia Navy considered the Iranian Navy no match for the US forces in the Gulf.
http://rt.com/politics/iran-us-russia-strait-hormuz-919/
On the other hand the Iranians have the ability to do SOME DAMAGE, like they did in 1987, but relatively mino compared to what the US Navy can do to Iran.
project_bluebook
(411 posts)just like our rightwing nuts do and they both use religion as an excuse.
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)Larry Engels
(387 posts)And if the US Navy fires on them, is it the beginning of WWIII?
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)agreement, or if it's payback for Yemen. We aren't directly assisting SA bombing, but we are refueling their bombers (we are specifically not doing it in Yemeni airspace).
happyslug
(14,779 posts)I do NOT see the Iranians doing anything that would lead to actual shooting, but tit for tat will occur. Hopefully this will NOT get out of hand,
okaawhatever
(9,469 posts)seize a ship? Also, multiple countries helped block Yemen, it will be interesting to see if Iran goes after any of their ships.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)But the US DID BLOCKED Iranian ships from being off the coast of Yemen. It is for THAT act I suspected the Iranians did what they did. Technically the ship they stopped was NOT an American Ship, but everyone knows better. Liberia, Panama, Marshall Islands all have rules that say they are NOT US Ships, but have rules that the US Coast Guard can stop them even in the high seas as if they were an American Ship. This permits the crews of those ships to be lower paid Non-Americans, Filipinos were at time made up most of the crews of such ships, but other nationalities, mostly third world, have been recruited over the years (Starting in the 1990s a lot of Citizens of former Warsaw Pact nations became a source of crews, with Russian Sailors being preferred on actual sailing ships).
As to taking the ship over, Iran probably has a good case that it did violate Iranian Territorial waters. I suspect that happens a lot of times given the size of modern tankers and the narrowness of the strait (and how many other ships are using those Straits). I also suspect, that given how often this occurs, someone in Tehran decided it was time to retaliate for the American Blocking of Iranian ships off Yemen, but taking over the next American Owned Ship that violated Iranian Waters (Could be a Panama, Liberian or other flag of Convenience ship). Iran can say it is just making sure no one violates its territorial waters, even through it is probably done all the time.
Thus my comment this is tit for tat, if the US wants to prevent Iranian ships from being off the coast of Yemen, then the US better make sure its ship stays out of Iranian Waters. If the US is ready to give in on this matter, so will Iran.
Remember the Iranians did seize a Marshall Island Registered ship Maersk Tigris and harassed a US Flagged ship the Maersk Kensington, Earlier in this week'
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/30/politics/us-navy-escort-cargo-ships-iran-strait-of-hormuz/
Iran is now claiming it took the actions it did over a debt with the owner of those ships dating to 2005.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/world/middleeast/iran-maersk-tigris-container-ship-seizure.html
The Article mentions a 3.6 Million dollar verdict against the Ship's owner, but NOT when that Verdict was entered. Could be recent, and this is just a taking of property to satisfy that verdict. It may be ancient and dragged out to justify the taking of the ship, when the real reason was tit for tat for Yemen. Lets see what it is.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)The destroyer captain would likely interpose his ship between the Iranians and the cargo ship, if that fails and the Iranians continue to close, then
the captain would try to warn the Iranians off be signaling them via radio, loudspeaker and light messages, if that fails and the Iranians continue to close, then
the captain may fire warning shots, if that fails or if the Iranian choose at any point to open fire on either US ship, the destroyer will sink the Iranian ship or ships involved in the incident.
hack89
(39,171 posts)boarding a US flagged ship is an act of war.
candelista
(1,986 posts)This does not make my day.
hack89
(39,171 posts)there is no extra cost to you.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)those ships are there already burning fuel regardless of whether they are escorting ships or not.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)So there are absolutely no costs associated with having all those ships there. And deploying more ships costs us nothing either. The Navy is practically free...
hack89
(39,171 posts)but the Persian Gulf is the one place you really want the Navy to be.
candelista
(1,986 posts)Those ships will now be in continuous use on a specific mission, not to protect the United States, but to protect oil shippers who are taking most of their product to Europe and Japan.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I'm not the one claiming that there are no additional costs.
damyank913
(787 posts)...all ships, Navy or otherwise, consume fuel. Unless they're dead in the water-which is not a desirable situation for any ship.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The US Navy hasn't been a sailing force for a long time.
damyank913
(787 posts)...I didn't insert a smilie.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Or ships/boats.
damyank913
(787 posts)...but who am I to judge.
As for ships, tread carefully. You're making assumptions that might make you look bad.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)You made that claim. As an indication of general marine knowledge, it's pretty damaging.
Also you thought I was saying you needed to insert a sarcasm smilie. Lack of caffeine?
damyank913
(787 posts)...So me to make amends. All ships require an energy input. Better?
I thought you understood me: "...The US Navy hasn't been a sailing force for a long time...." . My Bad.
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candelista
(1,986 posts)This is another taxpayer subsidy to US business.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I disagree with you. It is, however, not an issue worth fighting over. Peace.