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Omaha Steve

(99,793 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 04:25 PM Apr 2015

Boehner: Killing Export-Import Bank risks thousands of jobs

Source: AP-Excite

By ANDREW TAYLOR

WASHINGTON (AP) — Thousands of jobs would "disappear pretty quickly" if the Export-Import Bank were to expire abruptly when its charter runs out at the end of June, House Speaker John Boehner said on Thursday.

The Ohio Republican has asked Financial Services Chairman Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, to come up with a plan to overhaul or wind down the operations of the bank, which helps finance exports of U.S. products such as jetliners and wind turbines.

"There are thousands of jobs on the line that would disappear pretty quickly if the Ex-Im Bank were to disappear. So I told the chairman he needs to come up with a plan," Boehner told reporters. "Because the risk is that if he does nothing, the Senate is likely to act. And then what?"

Boehner's unwillingness to let the bank's operations abruptly end is at odds with deputies such as Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., who said Tuesday that he supports letting the bank's charter expire.

FULL story at link.



FILE - In this Oct. 10, 2013 file photo, House Financial Service Committee Chairman Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, left, listens as House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington. Boehner says thousands of jobs would {201c}disappear pretty quickly{201d} if the Export-Import Bank were to abruptly expire when its charter runs out at the end of June.The Ohio Republican says he{2019}s told a top GOP colleague Hensarling, to come up with a plan to reform or wind down the operations of the bank, which helps finance exports of U.S. products such as jetliners and wind turbines. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150430/us--boehner-export-import_bank-e35aad8467.html



Since when did he worry about JOBS?
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Boehner: Killing Export-Import Bank risks thousands of jobs (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP
"GOP infighting over best way to kill jobs and prosperity" nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #1
I am confident this huge corporate welfare program will be renewed. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #2
The Export/Import bank actually makes money. About 1.4 billion per year. They also help okaawhatever Apr 2015 #7
According to the CBO it incurrs a net loss using fair-value accounting. PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #9
That's what the right wingers say. Democrats like Elizabeth Warren support the pnwmom Apr 2015 #12
2 problems with fair value accounting with gov't programs: 1. It assumes the main reason okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14
It pays for itself. It isn't welfare. And Boehner agrees with the Democrats on this issue, pnwmom Apr 2015 #10
Hypocrisy, thy name is republican. sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #3
Hey, idiot turbinetree Apr 2015 #4
No, Boeing doesn't have its own finance department for lending itself money. The Export-Import bank pnwmom Apr 2015 #11
Boeing turbinetree Apr 2015 #15
That unit is no substitute for the Export-Import Bank, as you know. Private lenders pnwmom Apr 2015 #16
Suddenly, he cares about jobs. Lying freak. C Moon Apr 2015 #5
I must have missed the time Boehner stood up and was concerned about all the jobs lost djean111 Apr 2015 #6
he should never be allowed to say the word "job" SummerSnow Apr 2015 #8
And he agrees with Elizabeth Warren and many Dems about that, and disagrees with Republicans. pnwmom Apr 2015 #13

okaawhatever

(9,469 posts)
7. The Export/Import bank actually makes money. About 1.4 billion per year. They also help
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

smaller businesses export goods. Most of the larger companies can get all the financing they need, smaller ones not so much.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. According to the CBO it incurrs a net loss using fair-value accounting.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:22 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/45383-FairValue.pdf

The primary beneficiaries are large companies which make large profits like Boeing and GE.

The Export/Import bank is an example of privatizing profits and socializing losses.

If you are concerned about small businesses, the bank's credit could be limited to businesses
under a certain size.

Don't worry though, I'm sure like most corporate welfare programs this one will be renewed.


pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
12. That's what the right wingers say. Democrats like Elizabeth Warren support the
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:54 PM
Apr 2015

Export Import Bank. Boehner has sided with the Dems on this one.

okaawhatever

(9,469 posts)
14. 2 problems with fair value accounting with gov't programs: 1. It assumes the main reason
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 08:57 PM
Apr 2015

for the program is to make as much money as possible. 2. It assumes the government could and would compete at market rates

If the Bank’s purpose were solely to make money, we’d do better to replace it with a commercial venture that operates on market terms. But making money is not the Bank’s mission. Instead, its goal is to support American exporters, particularly in competition with foreign firms that also receive government backing.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2014/09/10/does-the-export-import-bank-make-or-lose-money/

Secondly, if the problem with the bank is that the rates are below market, the solution is to raise the interest rate not kill the program.

The only way we actually lose money with the ex-im bank is if we have an alternative program that would earn market rates (opportunity cost). If not, the "loss" means nothing. Not to mention, closing the bank will force legislators to take 1.4 Billion per year from another program. The profit is real, the fair value loss not so much.

pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
10. It pays for itself. It isn't welfare. And Boehner agrees with the Democrats on this issue,
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:50 PM
Apr 2015

and is fighting members of his own party.

turbinetree

(24,735 posts)
4. Hey, idiot
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

if you and your little right wing cronies would let put tariffs on imported goods and the canceling of some of the trade deals that are gutting this country, you wouldn't be in this mess.

Boeing has its own finance department for lending money on jets being built, why do you think they want to keep the Export / Import bank system in place---come on think real hard between your drink and playing golf----read below--see if you can find the magic words

The Export-Import Bank of the United States is the official export credit agency of the United States federal government. It was established in 1934 by an executive order, and made an independent agency in the Executive branch by Congress in 1945, for the purposes of financing and insuring foreign purchases of United States goods for customers unable or unwilling to accept credit risk. The mission of the Bank is to create and sustain U.S. jobs by financing sales of U.S. exports to international buyers. The Bank is chartered as a government corporation by the Congress of the United States; it was last chartered for a three-year term in 2012 and extended in September 2014 through June 30th, 2015. Its Charter spells out the Bank's authorities and limitations. Among them is the principle that Ex-Im Bank does not compete with private sector lenders, but rather provides financing for transactions that would otherwise not take place because commercial lenders are either unable or unwilling to accept the political or commercial risks inherent in the deal.



pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
11. No, Boeing doesn't have its own finance department for lending itself money. The Export-Import bank
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

allows American manufacturers to compete with Airbus, which gets comparable financing.

And the Export-Import Bank pays for itself.

turbinetree

(24,735 posts)
15. Boeing
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:35 PM
Apr 2015

has a financed department to help airlines it's called the Boeing Capital Corporation (BCC).
Boeing Capital Corporation is a global provider of financing solutions. A wholly-owned subsidiary of The Boeing Company, Boeing Capital offers asset-backed lending and leasing, concentrating on assets that are critical to the core operations of Boeing customers. Boeing Capital’s primary mission is to support the other Boeing business units by ensuring customers have the financing they need to buy and take delivery of their Boeing products.

pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
16. That unit is no substitute for the Export-Import Bank, as you know. Private lenders
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:35 PM
Apr 2015

dry up credit during a financial crisis, when credit is most needed to get economies moving again.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/2009/11/17/boeing-ex-im-bank-officials-defend-loan-guarantees/

Responding to the idea that the “subsidy” could be having the federal government use its full faith and credit to arrange financing so Boeing could sell aircraft it wouldn’t have otherwise, Morin said that gets at whether the government should have an export-import bank or not.

Not having such a bank would be “unilateral disarmament” because other countries have similar banks to help fund purchases of their manufacturers’ products, he said.

And the bank proved its worth in the latest global financial crisis, when private lenders stopped financing large purchases, Morin said. “This is the time when, if there wasn’t an export credit agency, you’d want to create one, because we’re here to create jobs.”

The Export-Import Bank authorized $21 billion in loans, guarantees and export credit insurance during the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30 — up from $14.4 billion the previous year and the highest level since its establishment in 1934.

Cave echoed Morin’s point in his talk.

“The industry watched capital markets dry up,” he said. “This was game day for export banks … and right in the middle of that global game was Ex-Im Bank.”

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. I must have missed the time Boehner stood up and was concerned about all the jobs lost
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:32 PM
Apr 2015

to outsourcing and H-1B visas. Must be a close personal donor whose ox is in danger of being gored.

pnwmom

(109,015 posts)
13. And he agrees with Elizabeth Warren and many Dems about that, and disagrees with Republicans.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:00 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/going-after-export-import-bank-is-a-strange-way-to-attack-crony-capitalism/2014/09/05/4c6721a8-344f-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

Naturally, anything House Republicans are against these days, Democrats are for. So we have a Democratic Party — including such crusaders against corporate welfare as Sens. Sherrod Brown (Ohio) and Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) — coming together to defend a program that, by their reckoning, saves and protects American jobs.
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