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elleng

(131,457 posts) Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:11 PM Jun 2015

U.S. adding military advisers in Iraq to reclaim Ramadi, officials say.

Source: nyt

In a major shift of strategy in Iraq, the Obama administration is planning to establish a new military base in Anbar province.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/world/middleeast/us-adding-military-advisers-to-reclaim-iraqi-city-officials-say.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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U.S. adding military advisers in Iraq to reclaim Ramadi, officials say. (Original Post) elleng Jun 2015 OP

Woot! We're going back! OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #1

No, not yet but if we do end up back there 99.9% of it is the fault of the Republicans. nt cstanleytech Jun 2015 #2

If space aliens attacked, you would blame it on the Republicans. Beauregard Jun 2015 #4

Except I do not see this as a misdeed more like hes willing to try and help cstanleytech Jun 2015 #5

The mission creep will continue to get worse. BlueEye Jun 2015 #3

I think you can figure out which words need changed here DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #6

Chill, y'all! They're only "advisers." What could possibly go wrong?? RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #7

Good morning, Viet Nam. n/t dgibby Jun 2015 #10

Anbar and Baghdad had the highest casualty numbers jakeXT Jun 2015 #14

Why can't we advise them to reclaim Ramadi from here? Surely we have an email. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #8

Still trying to clean up the Bush mess project_bluebook Jun 2015 #9

Fort Zinderneuf. nt bemildred Jun 2015 #11

This is stupid. REALLY stupid. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #12

I guess we've decided Ramadi is kind of important after all. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #13

Obama Announces Bold New Decade-Old Strategy in Iraq bemildred Jun 2015 #15

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)

1. Woot! We're going back!

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:22 PM

Jun 2015

Neverending war!

cstanleytech

(26,367 posts)

2. No, not yet but if we do end up back there 99.9% of it is the fault of the Republicans. nt

Reply to OnyxCollie (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:25 PM

Jun 2015

Beauregard

(376 posts)

4. If space aliens attacked, you would blame it on the Republicans.

Reply to cstanleytech (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:34 PM

Jun 2015

As Democrats, we need to take responsibility for the actions--and misdeeds--of the President we elected, who has opted to up the ante in Iraq.

cstanleytech

(26,367 posts)

5. Except I do not see this as a misdeed more like hes willing to try and help

Reply to Beauregard (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:37 PM

Jun 2015

fix what our country broke under the last administration.
Will it work? I honestly dont know but I hope it does because having nutjobs take over and rule that area of the world would be tragic
.

BlueEye

(449 posts)

3. The mission creep will continue to get worse.

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:29 PM

Jun 2015

I fear America's third full-blown war on Iraq is upon us.

DirtyHippyBastard

(217 posts)

6. I think you can figure out which words need changed here

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:37 PM

Jun 2015

We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.

Lyndon B. Johnson

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)

7. Chill, y'all! They're only "advisers." What could possibly go wrong??

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:41 PM

Jun 2015

dgibby

(9,474 posts)

10. Good morning, Viet Nam. n/t

Reply to RufusTFirefly (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:27 PM

Jun 2015

The "advisers" are going to be on a new base, much closer to the action, according to the reporting on MSNBC tonight. Wonder what advice they'll be giving when the base is overrun. Sorry, but this has my military spidy senses tingling at the speed of light.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)

14. Anbar and Baghdad had the highest casualty numbers

Reply to dgibby (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:37 AM

Jun 2015

http://icasualties.org/iraq/ByProvince.aspx

The United States is expected to announce on Wednesday plans for a new military base in Iraq's Anbar province and the deployment of around 400 additional U.S. trainers to help Iraqi forces in the fight against Islamic State, a U.S. official said.

The plan would expand the 3,100-strong U.S. contingent of trainers and advisers in Iraq and would mark an adjustment in strategy for President Barack Obama, who is facing mounting criticism for not being tougher in combating Islamic State.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/10/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-usa-idUSKBN0OP1YD20150610

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

8. Why can't we advise them to reclaim Ramadi from here? Surely we have an email. n/t

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:48 PM

Jun 2015

project_bluebook

(411 posts)

9. Still trying to clean up the Bush mess

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 09:57 PM

Jun 2015

and why fight for a country that lacks the will to fight. Time to pull out, let the religious fanatics take control like they are in the US.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

11. Fort Zinderneuf. nt

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:31 PM

Jun 2015

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)

12. This is stupid. REALLY stupid.

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Tue Jun 9, 2015, 10:37 PM

Jun 2015

We don't like daesh? Well, they are kinda popular. Break the dams, flood their cities, take their surrender.

Don't want to surrender? K. A 10 or B 52.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

13. I guess we've decided Ramadi is kind of important after all.

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:28 AM

Jun 2015

bemildred

(90,061 posts)

15. Obama Announces Bold New Decade-Old Strategy in Iraq

Reply to elleng (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:02 AM

Jun 2015

Here's our bold, new, never-before-tried strategy for beating ISIS:

In a major shift of focus in the battle against the Islamic State, the Obama administration is planning to establish a new military base in Anbar Province, Iraq, and to send up to 450 more American military trainers to help Iraqi forces retake the city of Ramadi.

....To assemble a force to retake Ramadi, the number of Iraqi tribal fighters in Anbar who are trained and equipped is expected to increase to as many as 10,000 from about 5,500.

More than 3,000 new Iraqi soldiers are to be recruited to fill the ranks of the Seventh Iraqi Army division in Anbar and the Eighth Iraqi Army division, which is in Habbaniyah, where the Iraqi military operations center for the province is also based.

Roger that. More American "trainers." More Iraqi fighters, who will turn out to be great this time. Honest. Oh, and a brand new target: Ramadi instead of Mosul.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/06/obama-announces-bold-new-decade-old-strategy-iraq

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