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JI7

(89,289 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:14 AM Jun 2015

Retailer Gap to Close 175 Stores Across North America

Source: bbc

The retailer Gap is to close 175 stores across North America over the next few years as it attempts to turn around the business.

A "limited number" of European shops would also close, the San-Francisco-based company said in a statement.

In addition, Gap will also cut about 250 jobs from its head office.

It has been struggling with falling sales as it competes with the likes of Europe's H&M and Zara.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33144076



i think this is more a case of business model, strategy than the economy . stores these days aren't just selling a shirt or some item you need but all based on the Apple Store which is selling an experience and concept while you are in there. that's what H&M seems to do.

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Retailer Gap to Close 175 Stores Across North America (Original Post) JI7 Jun 2015 OP
H&M also sells a lot of clothes for next to nothing. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #1
isn't Zara kind of expensive though ? and then you have urban outfitters and anthropologie which are JI7 Jun 2015 #2
Zara can restock very quickly based on sales reports they get from every store, so they have bettyellen Jun 2015 #5
I honestly don't know. I've never even heard of Zara, let alone been in one. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #6
I've seen some here around Asia davidpdx Jun 2015 #9
H&M is fun, disposable fashion GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #12
GAP seems to have a lot of success with Old Navy. EL34x4 Jun 2015 #15
Good point. I think that could be it. Arugula Latte Jun 2015 #19
Actually it hasn't anything to do with the middle class... Historic NY Jun 2015 #20
H&M is garbage Dopers_Greed Jun 2015 #23
I'm guessing some of the job losses we see have been due to internet sales... C Moon Jun 2015 #3
I think their business model was described when people started mocking the logo a few years ago.... MADem Jun 2015 #4
Another case of American Capitalism falling before Swedish Socialism. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #7
The secret sauce of H&M and Zara is that they change their clothes/styles quickly. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #8
People would joke that Zara has factories on it's boats they deliver so quickly.... bettyellen Jun 2015 #17
I think it is lousy product, design and quality, at too high a price on point Jun 2015 #10
IMO romanic Jun 2015 #11
Just like Walmart TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #16
So sad maindawg Jun 2015 #13
Style is Optional after All. Here its simply a lack of income equals lack of purchasing "the New". Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #14
They have shifted their dollars to phones, Ipads and tech. bettyellen Jun 2015 #18
That's a point. The nearby Tanger outlet mall about 6 years old is 1/3 empty as we speak. Ford_Prefect Jun 2015 #22
Another look at the GAP's problems.... Historic NY Jun 2015 #21
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
1. H&M also sells a lot of clothes for next to nothing.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jun 2015

$10 pants, $5 leggings and the like ... It's hard for other companies to compete with such low prices.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
2. isn't Zara kind of expensive though ? and then you have urban outfitters and anthropologie which are
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jun 2015

much more expensive and so far they seem to be doing ok . and then there is abercrombie , hollister and all the other crap .

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. Zara can restock very quickly based on sales reports they get from every store, so they have
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:40 AM
Jun 2015

A much greater ability to respond to their customers. That matters a great deal if you want to get reg price sales. Gap also fell into competing with everyone's mark downs and lost a lot of quality and good design. But online sales is a growing sector, and ditching stores that are now poor performers is not a bad idea.
They are trying to get back to a ace where they have exciting clothes that people will actually pay for.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
12. H&M is fun, disposable fashion
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jun 2015

RayBan knock-offs for $5. Stuff that would be considered counterfeit merchandise if it was sold on the street. Cheaply made and cheap. A different model than GAP.

GAP already tried going cheap with it's 'Old Navy' brand and they went up market with 'Banana Republic'. The closing of GAP stores mirrors the death of the middle class and aligns their business with an increasingly polarized economy.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
15. GAP seems to have a lot of success with Old Navy.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jun 2015

Those stores are everywhere. I like Old Navy. Their clothes are low-priced, durable and don't go out of style. Most of what I wear is from Old Navy.

I don't think I've ever bought anything from GAP, and most certainly not Banana Republic.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. Good point. I think that could be it.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jun 2015

They say mid-level restaurants are having a hard time, too. The rich can go to the top-end ones, and everyone loves a cheap, convenient taco, but it's not feasible it for middle class people to pay $12 to $20 bucks for some mediocre meal they can make at home.

Historic NY

(37,463 posts)
20. Actually it hasn't anything to do with the middle class...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jun 2015

the GAP became a bridge to far with business brinkmanship. They went from small town lazy malls selling a variety of jeans besides their own brand to glitz and glamour. They built a 1 million sq ft. warehouse 15 minutes from me which now has been rented off to a variety of companies. 15 minutes south of me is the mega outlet shopping center thats NY's tourist destination. Their cheap can't compete with the other guys cheap.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
23. H&M is garbage
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jun 2015

The clothes are so cheap that they look crappy and worn-out after just a few washes. Not worth it at any price IMO.

C Moon

(12,227 posts)
3. I'm guessing some of the job losses we see have been due to internet sales...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:26 AM
Jun 2015

affecting malls, shops, etc. As for myself, I probably go to stores 90% less for things outside of groceries. Although, I sometimes regret the wait for delivery.

Welcome to the new world order.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. I think their business model was described when people started mocking the logo a few years ago....
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:37 AM
Jun 2015

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
8. The secret sauce of H&M and Zara is that they change their clothes/styles quickly.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jun 2015
Zara’s owner has passed Warren Buffett to become the world’s second-richest man

Amancio Ortega, the Spanish fast-fashion baron behind Zara—known for peddling cheap, trendy items like $15 crop-tops—has surpassed Warren Buffett to claim the title of world’s second-richest person.

His net worth, according to Bloomberg, is $71.5 billion compared to Buffett’s $70.2 billion—although Buffett would’ve been ahead if not for his philanthropic giving. Still, that leaves Ortega behind only Microsoft founder Bill Gates, who had $85.5 billion as of June 2.

The ranking is indicative not only of Ortega’s tremendous business acumen—he started Zara in 1975, making lingerie and bathrobes with his former wife in their living room—but also of the world’s seemingly insatiable desire for low-priced clothes. Just think of the margin on a $15 crop-top and how many of those you would need to sell to rival Ortega’s net worth.

Ortega’s company Inditex, which owns Zara, continues to go from strength to strength. In March, it reported net profit for the fiscal year was up 5% from the previous year, and that it planned to open up to 480 more stores this year. Currently, the company operates more than 6,600 stores in 88 countries across the world, and offers e-commerce in at least 27 of those markets.

Ortega has done it all with a relatively unique business model. While many other retailers were moving production to China to cut costs, Zara kept most of its manufacturing close to its home base in La Coruña. That allowed Zara to react quickly to trends and get products in stores right away. Customers could always count on Zara to find something new and on-trend.

http://qz.com/418425/zaras-owner-has-passed-warren-buffett-to-become-the-worlds-second-richest-man
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. People would joke that Zara has factories on it's boats they deliver so quickly....
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jun 2015

But they get immediate reports directly from all their stores and react immediately.
They are forced to discount less, and already stock a wider mix of price ranges than most stores.

on point

(2,506 posts)
10. I think it is lousy product, design and quality, at too high a price
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:44 AM
Jun 2015

They lost the thread you may say

romanic

(2,841 posts)
11. IMO
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:01 AM
Jun 2015

Gap, like Abercrombie and American Eagle, failed to adapt to the taste of millennials who want "fast fashion" without obnoxious logos and brand names plastered all over the shirt and sleeves. H&M, Urban Outfitters, Zara, etc sell clothes with various styles plus basics and does so while changing up their stock monthy. Last I checked, GAP doesn't do any of that.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,257 posts)
16. Just like Walmart
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:53 AM
Jun 2015

Low cost, low markup retailers make their money on VOLUME. To get more volume for a fashion retailer, you need to get new stock constantly. That's what makes shoppers come back often. It's what makes discount retailers like Ross, Marshalls and TJ Maxx work as well. Unfortunately, that whole stacking them deep, selling them cheap business model is that the store employees usually get very low wages. When I worked in rwtail in the late 70's, I wasn't getting rich, but I made enough to share an apartment with a roommate. That would be difficult now.

Not to mention the sweatshop labor required to make those cheap clothes.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
13. So sad
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 07:43 AM
Jun 2015

I guess the billionaires didnt buy enough Levi's to make up for the rest of us who cannot afford to buy luxuries like clothes.

Ford_Prefect

(7,943 posts)
14. Style is Optional after All. Here its simply a lack of income equals lack of purchasing "the New".
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:39 AM
Jun 2015

The number of empty storefronts nearby is testimony to the reduced level of income. Lots of jobs but barely 1/2 the income of a decade ago.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. They have shifted their dollars to phones, Ipads and tech.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jun 2015

That's what has been the younger markets way of communicating status more than clothes for the last 10 years. Younger people care less about clothes these days.

Ford_Prefect

(7,943 posts)
22. That's a point. The nearby Tanger outlet mall about 6 years old is 1/3 empty as we speak.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jun 2015

It was mobbed when it opened and for the last 3 years in a decline. Lots of young, hip stuff but not many customers. Same at many of the malls around here. Baby stores and cooking stores seem to last better.

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