First on CNN: GOP presidential hopefuls urged to reject same sex marriage
Source: CNN
Candidates seeking the Republican presidential nomination will be urged Thursday to sign a pledge promising to support a constitutional amendment defining marriage as being between one man and one woman.
The National Organization for Marriage's request comes as the nation waits to see if the U.S. Supreme Court will rule this month to legalize same sex marriage across the country.
"Republicans need to not just give lip service to marriage," Brian Brown, president of the organization, told CNN in an interview. "By signing the pledge they are committing to concrete steps to protect marriage."
Among other things, an advance copy of the five-point pledge provided to CNN calls on candidates to support a constitutional amendment.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/politics/same-sex-marriage-pledge/index.html
"Serious" Presidential candidates wouldn't be stupid enough to get sucked into this now.
Would they?
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)I hope they all sign it. They do love their stupid pledges.
rpannier
(24,352 posts)How is signing a paper something concrete?
I could sign it and then do diddly and squat
muriel_volestrangler
(101,417 posts)Without this preposterous, counterfeit offset credit, Jindal believes he cannot claim to have never raised taxes. So, Jindals aides admit, the governor sought Norquists permission to concoct this credit, which state Treasurer John Kennedy has aptly labeled nonsense on a stick.
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Lets hope that Norquist smiles upon Robideauxs request and gives the House and Senate permission to trash the SAVE bill. (He didnt. Since this post first went up, Norquist responded, telling legislators they are not allowed to raise taxes without also passing some kind of offset.)
http://bobmannblog.com/2015/06/08/instead-of-writing-norquist-heres-the-letter-louisiana-lawmakers-should-send-jindal/#more-5609
State Rep. Joel Robideaux, R-Lafayette, and 10 other Louisiana House members sent Norquist a letter (PDF) Sunday night, asking Norquist to rethink his approach to Louisiana's budget and the "no tax" pledge.
Lawmakers are struggling with Norquist's restrictions as they enter the final four days of 2015 budget negotiations. They have to send the spending plan to Jindal's desk by Thursday evening.
The governor has threatened to veto any budget plan or tax bills that don't meet Norquist's "no tax" requirements. Currently, the governor is pushing the Legislature to adopt a controversial higher education tax credit -- commonly called SAVE -- that Jindal says will make the budget comply with Norquist's wishes.
Robideaux and others don't like SAVE and have argued the tax credit could lead to tax hikes in the future. Through the letter, they are asking Norquist to push back on the SAVE legislation.
"We are deeply concerned about the clear and present danger posed by this bill. As conservative Republican legislators, we firmly believe SB 284 is the biggest threat to fiscal responsibility our state has ever faced," wrote Robideaux, head of the Legislature's tax-writing committee, in his letter to Norquist.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/louisiana_legislators_grover_n.html#incart_2box
WINNER: Grover Norquist
The Americans for Tax Reform and its founder, Grover Norquist, had significantly influence over Louisiana's budget process.
Back in February, Jindal put forward an initial budget proposal that he knew Norquist would approve. The Louisiana Senate also mostly worked within the parameters laid out by Norquist. Every financial decision was shaped by the anti-tax advocate and his supporters.
At one point, some Louisiana legislators reached out to Norquist directly to try to convince him to change his opinion on one piece of legislation.
Jindal may be courting Norquist because his organization is influential in national Republican politics and the governor is expected to run for president in 2016. But Norquist also has an interest in keeping Jindal on his side, as he faces fallout from Republicans in a few other states -- notably Alabama and Kansas.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/2015_legislative_session_winne.html
Norquist is the cult leader, and so many Republicans have undergone the initiation rites, and they're now afraid to displease their Leader.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)> "By signing the pledge they are committing to concrete steps to protect marriage."
Brilliant! I trust that their "concrete steps to protect marriage" will include the important things:
- Outlawing divorce
- "Marriage is between one man and one women: Adam & Eve not Adam & Eve then Adam & Eva then Adam & Evaline then Adam & Ivy"
- Outlawing illegitimate births
- "Only the fruit of a true & legal marriage may inherit."
- Outlawing adultery
- "Sex outside of marriage is a sin."
Yay! Go for it you stupid short-sighted hypocrites!
Your faithful voters and your two-faced "leaders" will just have to change the habits of a lifetime!
rurallib
(62,488 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,180 posts)Also:
- Christianity is the only true religion, and I am one too.
- I will order a massive ground attack on Iran at the earliest possibility
- All illegal Latin workers will be deported immediately
- Global warming is a hoax
They'd get their hard core 20% of fox-bots, but it would probably end there.
atreides1
(16,122 posts)If they're going to sign this pledge to "protect" marriage, then it that should also include divorce!!!!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Not that it wasn't from its start but after losing court battle after court battle, they REALLY became hateful.
The GOP...fighting to turn back the clock by one or two hundred years.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)in Rome to organize opposition to marriage equality. Brian Brown was there from NOM along with NOM co-founders Maggie Gallagher and Bob George. Francis was the key note speaker. Tony Perkins was there too, from Family Research Council...
At the link there are details and lots of photos
Pope Francis is in Rome this week at a "traditional marriage" conference. In attendance are some of America's most active anti-gay activists.
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/at_traditional_marriage_conference_pope_francis_speaks_to_u_s_anti_hay_groups
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)Jindal for president would actually be voting for him and also Grover Norquist as co-president. Such a deal! Two idiots for the price of one.
niyad
(113,980 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)There is no such thing as a serious Republican presidential candidate. They are stuck in a party of vicious reactionaries who do not believe in democracy or an inclusive society. Instead, they believe that males are better than females, Christians are better than secularists or followers of other faiths, straights are better than gays, whites are better than blacks and artificial persons are better than those of us made from natural flesh and blood. Somehow, they manage to offend just about everyone and turn the phrase real Americans into a very exclusive club. It's no wonder that poll after poll shows the political ideology of a typical American is at odds with the GOP. The typical Republican primary voter is staunchly opposed to an inclusive society, and that is who a Republican presidential candidate must appeal in order to gain the party's nomination.
The short answer to your question is that, for a Republican office seeker, it's smart politics to be stupid enough to get sucked into that. That goes a long ways in explaining why they haven't won a clean presidential election since 1988 and can only win elections nowadays if there is a low voter turnout.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They've said nothing about The Donald's idiocy, so why should this be any different. And they know it won't go anywhere, but it gets their bases all riled up to vote for the hate monger.