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former9thward

(32,167 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:35 PM Jun 2015

Supreme Court rules for church in case against Arizona town’s sign law

Source: Washington Post

The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down an Arizona town’s ordinance that treated signs directing people to a small church’s worship services differently than signs with other messages, such as a political candidate’s advertisement.

The decision was unanimous in favor of the tiny Good News Community Church, which has a long-running dispute with the town of Gilbert, Ariz., over signs planted in public rights of way directing congregants to church meeting places.

But the justices split over the correct way to decide the case. Five justices joined Justice Clarence Thomas’s decision that the town’s regulations are based on the content of the sign’s message and thus require the court’s highest First Amendment protection.

The town “singles out specific subject matter for differential treatment, even if it does not target viewpoints within that subject matter,” Thomas wrote. “Ideological messages are given more favorable treatment than messages concerning a political candidate, which are themselves given more favorable treatment than messages announcing an assembly of likeminded individuals.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-for-church-in-case-against-arizona-towns-sign-law/2015/06/18/a9f3bb26-1557-11e5-9518-f9e0a8959f32_story.html?wpisrc=nl_pmpol&wpmm=1

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Supreme Court rules for church in case against Arizona town’s sign law (Original Post) former9thward Jun 2015 OP
The town allowed political signs to be bigger Veldrick Jun 2015 #1
Yes, the town's politicians wanted their own signs protected. former9thward Jun 2015 #2
Gilbert is a heavily Mormon town... 63splitwindow Jun 2015 #4
Seriously? bucolic_frolic Jun 2015 #3
Are you saying that church signs shouldn't be in right of ways? Veldrick Jun 2015 #5
Neither bucolic_frolic Jun 2015 #7
2 week limit sounds more than fair with a you clean it up or we clean it up fine applied equally. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #12
We all have the equal right to petition the court. nt 7962 Jun 2015 #6
First Amendment rights are worth the money. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #11
Summarized: elleng Jun 2015 #8
Love this - SCOTUS Kagan - on concurring judgement asiliveandbreathe Jun 2015 #9
Remember the Town of Gilbert School Board asiliveandbreathe Jun 2015 #10
 

Veldrick

(73 posts)
1. The town allowed political signs to be bigger
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jun 2015

And political signs were also allowed to stay longer than church signs.
There was no reason for that.
Good decision.

former9thward

(32,167 posts)
2. Yes, the town's politicians wanted their own signs protected.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jun 2015

But they got bent out of shape because some church was putting out a sign once a week.

bucolic_frolic

(43,520 posts)
3. Seriously?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jun 2015

Hard for me to believe cases like this make it to the Supreme Court.
We're spending tax dollars and Court time to sort out church signs in a town?
And not on roads, highways or billboards, but on rights of way?

Yikes.

 

Veldrick

(73 posts)
5. Are you saying that church signs shouldn't be in right of ways?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jun 2015

Or no type of signs should be in right of ways?

bucolic_frolic

(43,520 posts)
7. Neither
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

Rights of way to me are a minor venue compared to highways, streets,
billboards, buildings. It's like where electrical and gas lines pass through town.

I just can't believe the town and lower courts couldn't resolve this without
all the fanfare and expense incurred. The town was being really petty.

All signs should be accessible in rights of way, perhaps with a time limit, 2 weeks or until
removed, or until election day, or until major holidays.

elleng

(131,429 posts)
8. Summarized:
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jun 2015

Reed v Town of Gilbert, Arizona

Gilbert, Arizona (Town), has a comprehensive code (Sign Code or Code)
that prohibits the display of outdoor signs without a permit, but exempts
23 categories of signs, including three relevant here. “Ideological
Signs,” defined as signs “communicating a message or ideas” that
do not fit in any other Sign Code category, may be up to 20 square
feet and have no placement or time restrictions. “Political Signs,” defined
as signs “designed to influence the outcome of an election,” may
be up to 32 square feet and may only be displayed during an election
season. “Temporary Directional Signs,” defined as signs directing the
public to a church or other “qualifying event,” have even greater restrictions:
No more than four of the signs, limited to six square feet,
may be on a single property at any time, and signs may be displayed
no more than 12 hours before the “qualifying event” and 1 hour after.
Petitioners, Good News Community Church (Church) and its pastor,
Clyde Reed, whose Sunday church services are held at various
temporary locations in and near the Town, posted signs early each
Saturday bearing the Church name and the time and location of the
next service and did not remove the signs until around midday Sunday.
The Church was cited for exceeding the time limits for displaying
temporary directional signs and for failing to include an event
date on the signs. Unable to reach an accommodation with the Town,
petitioners filed suit, claiming that the Code abridged their freedom
of speech. The District Court denied their motion for a preliminary
injunction, and the Ninth Circuit affirmed, ultimately concluding
that the Code’s sign categories were content neutral, and that the
Code satisfied the intermediate scrutiny accorded to content-neutral
regulations of speech.
Held: The Sign Code’s provisions are content-based regulations of speech that do not survive strict scrutiny. Pp. 6–17.
(a) Because content-based laws target speech based on its communicative
content, they are presumptively unconstitutional and may be
justified only if the government proves that they are narrowly tailored
to serve compelling state interests. E.g., R. A. V. v. St. Paul,
505 U. S. 377, 395. Speech regulation is content based if a law applies
to particular speech because of the topic discussed or the idea or
message expressed. E.g., Sorrell v. IMS Health, Inc., 564 U. S. ___,
___–___. And courts are required to consider whether a regulation of
speech “on its face” draws distinctions based on the message a speaker
conveys. Id., at ___. Whether laws define regulated speech by particular
subject matter or by its function or purpose, they are subject
to strict scrutiny. The same is true for laws that, though facially content
neutral, cannot be “ ‘justified without reference to the content of
the regulated speech,’ ” or were adopted by the government “because
of disagreement with the message” conveyed. Ward v. Rock Against
Racism, 491 U. S. 781, 791. Pp. 6–7.
(b) The Sign Code is content based on its face. It defines the categories
of temporary, political, and ideological signs on the basis of
their messages and then subjects each category to different restrictions.
The restrictions applied thus depend entirely on the sign’s
communicative content. Because the Code, on its face, is a contentbased
regulation of speech, there is no need to consider the government’s
justifications or purposes for enacting the Code to determine
whether it is subject to strict scrutiny. Pp. 7.
(c) None of the Ninth Circuit’s theories for its contrary holding is
persuasive.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-502_9olb.pdf

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. Love this - SCOTUS Kagan - on concurring judgement
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jun 2015

As the years go by, courts will discover that thousands of towns have such ordinances, many of them “entirely reasonable.” and as the challenges to them mount, courts will have to invalidate one after the other. (This Court may soon find itself a veritable Supreme Board of Sign Review.)

This has been ongoing since Oct.2013 - and if you read the doc 13-502 - it is amazing - it reads like a whos who in religious and legal arenas...

Ah, the town of Gilbert - their town hall meetings are a must watch...LOL - (I'm Mormon, and you are not!)

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