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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:38 PM Jun 2015

Judge cites government 'lack of candor' in returning $167,000 seized in Nevada

Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal

Citing a lack of candor by the government in its court papers, a federal judge has ordered the return of $167,000 seized from a man’s motor home during a traffic stop near Elko.

State and local law enforcement officers stopped Straughn Gorman, a resident of Hawaii, twice within 50 minutes in January 2013 as he was driving the motor home west on Interstate 80 between Wells and Elko, according to court documents.

... Gorman was not charged with any crime, but his money was seized and turned over to federal authorities for civil forfeiture proceedings. Authorities suspected he was on his way to California to buy marijuana, though Gorman said he was going to visit his girlfriend in Sacramento.

In his June 12 decision, Senior U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks chastised the Nevada U.S. Attorney’s office in Reno for not revealing details about the related first stop in their forfeiture papers.

Read more: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/judge-cites-government-lack-candor-returning-167000-seized-nevada

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Judge cites government 'lack of candor' in returning $167,000 seized in Nevada (Original Post) Newsjock Jun 2015 OP
Thieves.... Lucky guy to get it back! haikugal Jun 2015 #1
He hasn't got it back yet localroger Jun 2015 #2
That's horrible... haikugal Jun 2015 #6
These civil forfeiture cops are no better than highway robbers. nt valerief Jun 2015 #3
Worse Major Nikon Jun 2015 #4
They ARE highway robbers DFW Jun 2015 #5
Highway patrolmen turned into just plain highwaymen. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #7
Do these cops get to keep the money juajen Jun 2015 #8
Yes. The money is given to the christx30 Jun 2015 #10
Attorney General Holder ... gregcrawford Jun 2015 #9

localroger

(3,636 posts)
2. He hasn't got it back yet
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jun 2015

The thieves are considering an appeal. It will still be in court for some time.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
6. That's horrible...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:23 AM
Jun 2015

I remember when these type of laws we enacted..if I remember correctly in the late 80's. They looked like a disaster and they are. I just can't believe they can take things even when there is no arrest much less a conviction. How can this be?

I'll read the thread, maybe I'll understand better. I just can't believe it's legal for them to do that!

I'll check out the link too...

Edited to add:

Hicks said in his decision that the traffic stops in 2013 violated Gorman’s Fourth Amendment rights and were not conducted with “independent reasonable suspicion.

“No matter how this can be viewed, the two stops were for minor traffic violations and they both were extended beyond the legitimate purposes for such traffic stops,” Hicks wrote.

The second stop wouldn’t have happened if information from the first stop had not been “relayed” by troopers, Hicks explained.

He said Gorman is entitled to lawyers fees from the government and invited a motion seeking compensation.


So this is a setup... The guy should sue for more than just costs.

DFW

(54,527 posts)
5. They ARE highway robbers
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:11 AM
Jun 2015

This was nothing more than armed robbery.

The reasoning behind traveling around with $167,000 in cash may be obscure, but if it was the guy's money legitimately, and a bunch of armed thugs took it from him, it doesn't matter if they were wearing badges or not.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. Yes. The money is given to the
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jun 2015

cops' department. They use it to buy cars, helmets, weapons, and a margarita machine.
I wish I was kidding about that last one.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
9. Attorney General Holder ...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:03 AM
Jun 2015

... specifically forbade any further imposition of civil forfeiture laws because of gross abuse. They shouldn't even exist in the first place because they are blatantly unconstitutional and deprive victims of due process. But the majority of police believe they are above the law, and that all of us are guilty of something, so fucking us over is no more than we probably deserve.

This is what happens when ignorance, malice, and deceit are revered, as they are on Pox News, and sociopaths are allowed, nay, ENCOURAGED, to take positions of power.

The really sad part is that there are actually people foolish enough to believe you can reason with such people. You can't. They are monsters, and, like Dylann Roof, they deserve no forgiveness.

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