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TexasTowelie

(112,746 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:03 AM Jun 2015

The Latest: Germany warns travelers to Greece to bring cash

Source: AP

2:35 p.m.

Germany's Foreign Ministry is advising travelers to Greece to ensure they have enough cash on them before they depart.

An updated version of the ministry's travel advice issued Sunday noted that people seeking to withdraw cash in Greece could face "significant waits" and possible shortages at cash machines.

Worried Greeks were lining up at ATM machines on Sunday, the day after the Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras called for a referendum on creditors' financial proposals in return for rescue loans and creditors refused to extend Greece's international bailout beyond Tuesday.

While some machines in Greece were running out of cash, others were being replenished. Another top Greek financial official urged Greeks on Sunday to remain calm and not withdraw all their savings.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/latest-greece-wants-ecb-keep-giving-emergency-help-093416301.html

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drm604

(16,230 posts)
2. It strikes me that urging people to remain calm and not withdraw all their savings
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015

will have the opposite of the intended effect.

TexasTowelie

(112,746 posts)
3. The equivalent to
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:29 AM
Jun 2015

"nothing to see here, move along now" and they are correct--there will be NOTHING to see here (at the banks because the government just confiscated the paltry remains).

DFW

(54,527 posts)
5. Ya think?
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jun 2015

Translated into Greek, to a Greek, all this means is: "Please leave us something left to confiscate."

Ironing Man

(164 posts)
6. more news...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jun 2015

the BBC, which so far apppears to have good sources on this issue, has said that the EuroGroup has decided - and will announce today - that the European Central Bank will be withdrawing the Emergency Liquidity Assistance to Greek banks from today (sunday).

this means that unless the Greek government closes its banks on Monday - and finds money from somewhere - that the Greek banks will fail by tuesday/wednesday. this means no ATM's, no card payments, no nothing.

cstanleytech

(26,367 posts)
7. According to what I just read they didnt do that
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 09:05 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2015/html/pr150628.en.html

PRESS RELEASE
28 June 2015 - ELA to Greek banks maintained at its current level

ECB takes note of decision on Greek referendum and the non-prolongation of the EU adjustment programme
ECB will work closely with Bank of Greece to maintain financial stability
Emergency liquidity assistance maintained at Friday’s (26 June 2015) level
Governing Council stands ready to review decision
Governing Council closely monitoring situation and potential implications for monetary policy stance

Berlin Expat

(951 posts)
8. The ECB
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jun 2015

will continue Emergency Liquidity Assistance at current levels, but they're not going to raise the ceiling. Which itself could be a big problem come Monday, because paying the IMF isn't the only expenditure the Greek government has coming up:

Even before Tuesday when Greece’s bailout programme expires, another deadline is coming towards Alexis Tsipras’s government like an express train.

The end of the month is fast approaching, and with it the payment of wages and pensions which should begin on Monday.

That – and not the bailout expiry – could trigger the closure of the banks and the shutting down of their cash machines, the daily Ta Nea reported today. It said the government was hoping the central bank would transfer €1.5bn to keep people from leaving bank counters and ATMs empty-handed.

But what no one knows is whether – with or without the support of the ECB -- the Bank of Greece has the money to transfer. If not, then the banks may well be shut tomorrow as they prepare for restrictions on depositor withdrawals.

Even if the central bank can scrape together the funds for Monday’s heavy withdrawals, without ECB support, the retail banks look certain to run out of cash once that wages and pensions have been paid. At that point, restrictions would become inevitable.

Ta Nea said that adjusting the country’s ATMs would take two to three days, during which the banks would need to remain closed.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/jun/28/greek-crisis-ecb-emergency-liquidity-referendum-bailout-live

So that's certainly a potential problem; we shall see.

hunter

(38,354 posts)
10. Same as it ever was. Ordinary people get screwed, the uber-wealthy stay uber-wealthy.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jun 2015

What's the billionaire care? He's already got armed body guards who won't be burdened carrying an extra suitcase full of hard currency he can use to make the peasants dance for him.

The next rung down this ladder of civilization is the war-lord and his lackeys who shoot at the peasant's feet to make them dance.

I swear, it seems the big money people of Europe are longing for the bad old days of southern European fascism, fascism-dressed-up-as-Communism, organized crime, and political chaos.

Listen to John Maynard Keynes, do whatever the hell it takes to keep the ATM's full and the smaller bank accounts solvent.

Fuck the pathetic whining of the uber-wealthy classes, the right-and-left-wing nationalists, the racists, and the believers in bizarre economic and religious theologies of austerity and punishment.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
12. Greece faces banking collapse as ATMs run dry
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jun 2015
Greece faces banking collapse as ATMs run dry

Athens (AFP) - Greece weighed drastic banking restrictions to stave off a financial collapse on Sunday as anxious Greeks emptied cash machines amid fears that banks will be closed this week.

Long queues of up to a hundred people formed outside some ATMs in Athens as fears mounted that Greece will be forced to implement capital controls that would restrict withdrawals from its stricken banking system.

"There is a fear that tomorrow, banks will not open, so I take money for the rent (and) the daily expenses," said a woman, waiting in a line in Athens, who declined to give her name.

Alarm spread after the dramatic breakdown of bailout talks between Athens and its creditors over the weekend and a decision Sunday by the European Central Bank not to increase its financial support to the Greek banks.

http://news.yahoo.com/greece-calls-emergency-financial-council-meeting-003650679.html;_ylt=AwrC1CgJLJBVI1UAxsbQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
13. Breaking: Capital Controls taken – Banks to remain closed for one week until July 6th
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jun 2015
Breaking: Capital Controls taken – Banks to remain closed for one week until July 6th

“We will take any measures required to make sure there is no problem to the every day life of every Greek”, stated Yanis Varoufakis, surrounded by dozens of Greek citizens and foreign reporters while arriving to the Finance Ministry in order to attend a Systemic Stability conference.

With his statement, Mr. Varoufakis who had earlier clarified that the Greek government does not consider capital controls as a choice, wanted to assure citizens that despite the bank run following Alexis Tsipras’ referendum statements, the government has a plan to tackle the crisis.

The conference includes BoG director Yannis Stournaras, the Deputy FinMin Eucleid Tsakalotos, Deputy Minister Dimitris Mardas, Deputy Minister Nadia Valavani, Greek Banking Union president and National Bank president Louka Katseli, amongst others.

The largest news corporations can be seen outside the Finance Ministry. Even Japanese reporters have arrived in Athens to report on the latest developments.

http://en.protothema.gr/breaking-capital-controls-taken-banks-to-remain-closed-for-one-week/

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. GREEK BANKS TO REMAIN CLOSED FROM MONDAY FOR A WEEK
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:47 PM
Jun 2015

Not yelling, that was the headline type.

The launch of capital controls just as the Greek summer tourism season starts, is sure to be the final crushing blow to Greece, whose entire economy will now grind to a halt.
Reuters is also reporting that the Greek stock market will not open on Monday (leaving us wondering just what that will do to the Greek ETFs liquidity in US markets) as hedgers scramble to protect un-closable losses wherever they can.

More from Reuters, which reports that "Greece's banks, kept afloat by emergency funding from the European Central Bank, are on the front line as Athens moves towards defaulting on a 1.6 billion euros payment due to the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/greek-capital-controls-begin-banks-remain-closed-monday

This is not going to be an isolated problem.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. I was expecting Germany to try to cause a bank run....
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jun 2015

It's really becoming petty over Greece refusing to cut it's pensions.

Now what would be funny is if the German People kick out Meckel for being the right-wing tool that she is. And to think, the big worry when she took office was that she might be too far to the left since she came from the formerly communist East Germany.

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