Greenpeace puts secret TTIP-documents online (with link)
Source: Süddeutsche Zeitung
* Geheime TTIP-Papiere zeigen: Der Druck der US-Regierung auf die EU ist stärker und weiter reichend als bislang bekannt.
* Washington droht damit, Exporterleichterungen für Europas Autoindustrie zu blockieren, um im Gegenzug zu erreichen, dass die EU mehr US-Agrarprodukte abnimmt.
* Gleichzeitig attackieren die Amerikaner das grundlegende Vorsorgeprinzip beim europäischen Verbraucherschutz.
Read more: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/-geheime-ttip-papiere-enthuellt-1.2975097
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/-geheime-ttip-papiere-enthuellt-1.2975097
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/diskussion-ueber-freihandelsabkommen-greenpeace-veroeffentlicht-ttip-papiere-im-netz/13528872.html
(articles in german)
Monday morning (european time), Greenpeace Netherlands leaked 240 pages of secret TTIP-documents to the german newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung (of "Panama Papers"-fame) and the german publicly-owned TV-channels NDR and WDR.
The documents are also available online here:
http://www.ttip-leaks.org/
- The US is putting massive pressure on the EU by threatening to make it harder to export their cars to the US.
- The US wants the EU to buy more agrarian products from the US.
- The US wants the EU to accept weaker quality-standards for GMO-plants and meat from hormonally treated animals. The EU outlaws such foodstuff in a precautious way until they are proven safe. The US wants that foodstuff be sold freely until they are proven harmful.
- The US insist on arbitration-courts. They are willing to make them more transparent, but they won't allow that such cases be settled in actual legal courts.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The CORPORATIONS, because that is what this horrible trade agreement is... JUST like all the other ones that the ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES HAVE PUSHED UNDER THE RUG.
You can run away and THINK you can hide behind your corporate masters, but the people will always smoke you out.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Seriously, they don't realize that most Americans don't know that practically no Americans even know these three horrible deals exist.
Since its our business to know about them they assume we do. Much more than you would think.
AxionExcel
(755 posts)The freaking Corporate Borg, Inc. and its sold-out government toadies are totally screwing over, on a global scale, the basic concept of democratic choice, and democratic will. You can argue from now till next millennium about whether GMOs are good, bad or indifferent. But you absolutely cannot argue that Corporations should be able to override our individual and collective choice about the food we feed to ourselves and our families. In that sense alone, TTIP is decidedly EVIL.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)scientific principle.
Keep fighting EU - we the people of the USA do not want this stuff either.
The court thing is the worst part - it takes all control from the nation and puts it in the hands of the corporations. Even a Hillary supporter should be able to see the danger in these trade agreements. They are not about trade - they are about power and control.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)at the worst possible time in our history; right at the very moment when a logical and just distribution of the earth's resources becomes critical to the survival of our civilization.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)can we afford Trump.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Must read this paper! The cost is astronomical and they cause dozens of illnesses including numerous cancers, autism, and neurological issues. Also maybe a dozen illnesses related to their tendency to cause morbid obesity in the person exposed and their offspring. Endocrine disruption is because of their use in food containers, non-stick cookware and as flame retardants, and in plastics which accumulate in our bodies and around us. They threaten our very survival if this continues to get worse. the use of EDCs must be stopped.
TTIP is totally the wrong approach, a badly advised attempt to frustrate the increasingly urgent need to change this suicidal path we are on.
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/10.1210/jc.2014-4324
Also, TTIP wants to increase fractking and export it which will paradoxically make naturelle ga5 less affordable for Americans to the point of making many older buildings much more expensive to heat.
That could have a major negative impact on affordable housing, but people have no alternative housing in cities so again it would be a major disaster for the country to allow it.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)of the people and the workers. This is ALL about corporations and getting it for them.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We already lost the right to know where our meat comes from due to NAFTA.
Yet the other day someone on DU argued how NAFTA was a net plus.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the end of the USA as we know it.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The media is keeping it a secret. Unbelievable!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)us from this kind of thing is helping to destroy us. The sad thing is just exactly how close we are to being destroyed.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I can remember when the US government and press made such a huge fucking deal about the Soviet Union and how they could never be free because they were subjected to the state run propaganda publication Pravda.
I see little difference. Except instead of one misleading publication we have many lying newspapers, magazines, radio stations and TV stations.
US propaganda is far more polished than Soviet propaganda.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)comes from but there is a saying that in victory we become like our enemies. That has stuck in my mind for many years but I think it can be very true.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)It's a complete betrayal of the US form of government. Shame on Obama for pushing it. Shame.
Jackilope
(819 posts)lostnfound
(16,203 posts)It's not like we were allowed any less corporate choices in 2008. I think Obama is a good man who accepted the rules of the road. It was gonna be him or Hillary then, and he was definitely the better choice. TPTB own the office.
This time is a little different. Sanders is real, and has a long record of standing up for the working class and the poor, and voting against unnecessary wars and against the Patriot Act etc. HRC is going to continue to resurrect the bloody coups and squeeze plays to destroy popular left wing democracy in Latin America. And will give us window dressing to triage the most severely impacted by the fta's that her backers want.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yikes!
villager
(26,001 posts)nt
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Utterly disappointing sellout to the corps...
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Don't think he's too worried about feeling any shame.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)eShirl
(18,509 posts)anyway, that.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Here it is:
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[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Orwell was prescient, just a bit ahead of his time.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I've read "1984" much more recently. Refresh my memory?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It's been a while for me too.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Now I have to go read the book again. Thanks!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,256 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)we're corporate pawns.
Pawns UNITE!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)dae
(3,396 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)GMO (agrarian) and growth hormone (beef), huh? That's bad enough. But the elements that allow corporations to sue governments over anything that impinges on on their profit in any way is the the corker. Good for Green Peace.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"Flying a trial balloon" Could this be and intentional leak? A preferred outcome for those negotiating for their masters?
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)1. Every european politician knew that the voters worry of getting a bad deal. If the voters knew what's going, they would say No.
2. The european negotiators were offered a bad deal, but they had no real leeway to push their cause.
But AFTER THE LEAK, all of a sudden the european negotiators can credibly threaten the US with walking away from TTIP because the voters are obviously saying No.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)They should go back to their own country where they came from.
Yes, Bertha, come down. It's sarcasm.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)Also, there is an English version of this article
http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/143690739565/ttippapiere
as well as another one at Guardian.
http://www.ciel.org has been following the war between the US chemical industry and its TTIP and the EU on toxic and endocrine disrupting chemicals. They have a huge amount of info on it at CIEL.org