They're just not willing to say it themselves

The GOP knows his to speak to wow voters afraid that people of color are a threat. This election is cementing the racial dynamics of the two parties.

There just aren't enough rational people in St. Louis and Kansas City to make up for all of the white racist dumbfucks outside the cities.

Only been to Missouri once, though I've met a few people from there. They weren't "white racist dumbfucks."

Missouri was not a Confederate state.

The border war was simmering in both Iowa and Kansas prior to the Civil War, largely because Missouri was a slave state. If memory serves me correctly The Missouri legislature voted to succeed. Unfortunately for them the 1st Iowa regiment crossed the border without orders and the legislature fled. Saint Louis was very pro union, but most of the rest of the state was had Southern sympathies. Missouri was really mostly occupied enemy territory and was one of the first places that black union troops (from Kansas fought. Guerrilla bands were a huge problem in Missouri. Having lived on both the Iowa and Kansas borders as a boy I would say that the locals still regarded Missouri as a backward place. The standard joke was that the sign at the border said "Welcome to Misery".

It's likely that a lot of Missouri boys fought for the Grey.

about their views on race?

Not much difference I suspect.

That includes white voters in KC and StL.

Obama won white voters in CA in 2008, 52-46.

Now they've forgotten.

to feed inclinations on both sides, few minds will be swayed anywhere

Our red meat has to be bigger and better and attract more of our base
than the other side

They don't call it the State Of Misery for nothing.

Let the stormtrumpers have it...

I think it can be won again.

no more than Mittens won in it 2012, Obama barely lost in 2012, but it's not a critical state like OH, FL, or VA, it probably depends on how much resources are put into the state by both campaigns and the GOTV efforts in KC and STL by the Dems, If Hillary does win MO it will be an electoral rout, it's not a solid red state like KS

We'll see...

but if Trump does lose MO it will be a rout

OH is gone from Trump now and HRC is almost tied w/Trump in Georgia.

After 2012 the gop said that they needed more women, blacks, and hispanics to
be in the race in national elections ... Trump does not help w/those groups and Pence
kills any support chance w/the GLBT folks.

Much of the state is rural and lilly white. I used to live in Southern Illinois, not far from MO and St. Louis. MO was a hell hole of Conservative and racist assholes. St. Louis was OK, urban, somewhat nice, but they wanted to keep all the AA's on the other side of the Mississippi in East St. Louis. I haven't been down there since the early 90s so I have no idea what its like now.

Pretty country, filled with jerks.

Every poll says they are tied in OH.

You and Kasich are ignoring the polls.

2012 MO election results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Missouri,_2012

So its not surprising that Trump leads Clinton by 10 in a post convention bounce.

In 2008, McCain squeaked MO out by 5k votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Missouri,_2008

In 2004, Bush beat Kerry in MO, 56% to 43% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Missouri,_2004

So this isn't much in the way of news, especially here, that MO will go for Trump is not a surprise at all.

Let's hope Trump goes the same way.

MO is probably a lost cause, but if Hillary can pull off a 50-state push and make Trump defend a dependable place like MO (or other deep South states) that makes taking OH, PA, and FL much easier for Democrats.

And Romney won the state by 9 percent in 2012

That Trump would lead by 10 at this point shouldn't really be a surprise.

The republicans in this state are lower than snail shit.

Drive south on I-71 and you'll think you're in Mississippi!!!!

My sister lives in St. Charles so I've seen rural Missouri when going to visit her.

Trump is almost certainly going to win the states that Romney won. Republicans aren't going to vote for Hillary and Dems aren't going to vote for Romney, so the election is going to turn on who gets out the vote (and perhaps a bit on independents, though I'm not sure there are many true independents out there).

If there are more endorsements for Gary Johnson and he gets into the debates, I think some Western states that normally go Rethug will fall in his column...like Utah and maybe Montana. He may flip a few of them to HRC.

but do all Mormans even do what the church tells them to?

Missouri is to democrats what Pennsylvania is to republicans. always some hope that they will win but in reality very little chance of doing so.

and more of a chance of winning other places .

MO and PA are old and white if you remove the urban areas, but GA is full of young college educated Northern (Yankee) transplants in the Atlanta area, PA isn't solid blue state, MO isn't a sold red state, PA will go red in a Repubican rout, MO will go blue in a Democratic rout,

But there are a lot of really nice people here in KC, too.

Most of the racist people here are also uneducated. But maybe that is true everywhere.