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Judi Lynn

(160,707 posts)
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:07 PM Jul 2016

Judge refuses to let indicted sheriff have gun after threats

Source: Associated Press

Judge refuses to let indicted sheriff have gun after threats

Michael Kunzelman, Associated Press

Updated 4:12 pm, Friday, July 29, 2016

LAFAYETTE, La. (AP) — A south Louisiana sheriff accused of making anti-Semitic threats can't carry a gun while awaiting trial on charges he directed officers to assault prisoners, a federal judge ruled Friday.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Patrick Hanna said he can't "turn a blind eye" to statements like those that Iberia Parish Sheriff Louis Ackal allegedly made on tape.

Prosecutors said an "unsolicited informant" recently provided them with recordings of a conversation in which Ackal claimed he threatened to shoot a Justice Department prosecutor between his "Jewish eyes" after the prosecutor vowed to send him to prison.

Prosecutors said their conversation was cordial and Ackal mischaracterized it on the tape, but they were still concerned about it and they had learned of "additional threatening comments" that Ackal allegedly made. They didn't elaborate about those during the hearing, and none of Ackal's taped statements were played in court.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Judge-to-decide-if-indicted-sheriff-can-carry-gun-8606643.php

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Judge refuses to let indicted sheriff have gun after threats (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2016 OP
Get indicted for violent crimes, and you don't get a gun. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #1
Sounds good to me! mdbl Jul 2016 #3
Not in practice. My friend was arrested for making violent threats, and he was simply asked Midnight Writer Jul 2016 #4
Nothing automatically suspicious about buying a dozen magazines... Marengo Jul 2016 #6
It is the bushel basket provisos you add to registration which prevents any serious Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #8
... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #2
I always thought Mick Jagger resembles Barney Fife. Your photo reminded me! n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #5
I definitely see that now lol! NWCorona Jul 2016 #7

Midnight Writer

(21,878 posts)
4. Not in practice. My friend was arrested for making violent threats, and he was simply asked
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jul 2016

"Do you own any guns?" He said no, even though he had more than twenty, including an Uzi, multiple AR-15's , pump shotguns and God knows how much ammo (he had his own reloading operation in his basement,including kegs of gunpowder). That was good enough for the authorities. He voluntarily committed himself to an institution (thankfully, he was smart enough to know he was out of control and needed help) and his arsenal was waiting for him when he was released.

Registration. Records of sales of guns, ammo, universal back ground checks THAT STAY ON FILE, flags for suspicious weapon buying behavior (i.e. a person suddenly buying a dozen thirty round clips, body armor, multiple guns within a short time span). Mandatory training and licensing for gun buyers, chemical or electronic tags on guns and ammo so they can be traced.

These are the steps that need to be taken to stop at least some of the senseless gun violence.

And in my mind, I don't see how any of these violate a law abiding citizen's right to bear arms.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
6. Nothing automatically suspicious about buying a dozen magazines...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jul 2016

Not uncommon if a good deal is available, especially if a run is anticipated. Besides, the work around would be simply to buy a lesser amount over a period of time. Some of the mass shooters had been planning their attacks for some time, so a paced acquisition of magazines wouldn't be an issue. Also, what's the purpose of keeping a permanent record of background checks?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. It is the bushel basket provisos you add to registration which prevents any serious
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

consideration at the national level. Further, even at the state level, "flagging" has seious constitutional questions, as there is no crime in posessing large amounts of ammo, multiple guns, armor, etc. In short, a possibly constitutional measure is leveraged to a "list" of suspicious activities. Any "tags" can be developed at any time to see if they work, and if there is a demand for them. Why pass another law requiring technologies which are not proven, let alone desred? As for training, I support this when and if a citizen wishes to carry.

Most so-called "gun crime" is committed by veteran felons. I support "taggng" them for follow-up intervention to integrate them back into society; failing this, they should receive long sentences in prison so society is not threatened by them. Frankly, that is where the problem is, not with tens of millions of law-abiding gun owners.

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