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Huey P. Long

(1,932 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:45 AM Jun 2012

JPMorgan Trading Loss May Reach $9 Billion

Source: New York Times



INVESTMENT BANKING
JUNE 28, 2012, 2:30 AM
JPMorgan Trading Loss May Reach $9 Billion
BY JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG AND SUSANNE CRAIG

Losses on JPMorgan Chase’s bungled trade could total as much as $9 billion, far exceeding earlier public estimates, according to people who have been briefed on the situation. When Jamie Dimon, the bank’s chief executive, announced in May that the bank had lost $2 billion in a bet on credit derivatives, he estimated that losses could double within the next few quarters. But the red ink has been mounting in recent weeks, as the bank has been unwinding its positions, according to interviews with current and former traders and executives at the bank who asked not to be named because of investigations into the bank.

Nonetheless, the sharply higher loss totals will feed a debate over how strictly large financial institutions should be regulated and whether some of the behemoth banks are capitalizing on their status as too big to fail to make risky trades. JPMorgan plans to disclose part of the total losses on the soured bet on July 13, when it reports second-quarter earnings. Despite the loss, the bank has said it will be solidly profitable for the quarter — no small achievement given that nervous markets and weak economies have sapped Wall Street’s main businesses. To put the size of the loss in perspective, JPMorgan logged a first-quarter profit of $5.4 billion.

More than profits are at stake. The growing fallout from the bank’s bad bet threatens to undercut the credibility of Mr. Dimon, who has been fighting major regulatory changes that could curtail the kind of risk-taking that led to the trading losses. The bank chief was considered a deft manager of risk after steering JPMorgan through the financial crisis in far better shape than its rivals.

“Essentially, JPMorgan has been operating a hedge fund with federal insured deposits within a bank,” said Mark Williams, a professor of finance at Boston University, who also served as a Federal Reserve bank examiner.

Read more: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/jpmorgan-trading-loss-may-reach-9-billion/?hp

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JPMorgan Trading Loss May Reach $9 Billion (Original Post) Huey P. Long Jun 2012 OP
And the Board of Directors said give that man a big raise BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #1
JPMorgan Cushions Drew's Retirement With $21.5 Million Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #24
I'm sure Mr. Dimon will be raked over the coals for that next time he visits Congress BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #25
Time to yank JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #2
Jamie Dimon's eye-catching cufflinks Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #3
I've been wondering if government copies bankster dress, Trillo Jun 2012 #6
I believe the cufflinks were a signal that 'WE/I RUN THIS PLACE". Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #13
That's one big D'OH harun Jun 2012 #4
Um, they just get more taxpayer money to bail them out. Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #17
these greedy asshats have no soul.... Evasporque Jun 2012 #5
and it was only a little while ago when dimon was before congress, and the repukes were swooning still_one Jun 2012 #7
Stock price was down about 5% in pre-market trade and is down about 3.5% coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #8
JPMorgan lost enough money to fund operations for my state for 1.5 years Thav Jun 2012 #9
"I'd have to work for 180,000 years to earn that much money..." Volaris Jun 2012 #10
Who's going to jail? dickthegrouch Jun 2012 #11
Obama Trade Deal To Put Corporations Above The Law Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #21
Good work Jamie! jimlup Jun 2012 #12
But----will Jamie really lose his credibilty? young_at_heart Jun 2012 #14
Don't be silly now. Corporations RULE. They make their own reality now. -eom Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #15
Moral hazard, in spades. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #16
God forbid there should be some sort of regulation to stop this thelordofhell Jun 2012 #18
"They OWN this fucking place." -Carlin Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #19
The banksters at JPMChase will receive even larger bonuses for demonstrating caroll31 Jun 2012 #20
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #22
The attitude to these fuckers always seems to be "They're damn smart; they just had some bad luck." Prometheus Bound Jun 2012 #23
9 billion dollars that could fund universal health care down the crapper. Lint Head Jun 2012 #26
news bond92 Jun 2012 #27
 

Huey P. Long

(1,932 posts)
24. JPMorgan Cushions Drew's Retirement With $21.5 Million
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

JPMorgan Cushions Drew’s Retirement With $21.5 Million
By Dawn Kopecki - Jun 28, 2012 11:00 PM CT

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)’s decision to let Chief Investment Officer Ina Drew retire four days after the bank disclosed a $2 billion loss in her division allowed her to walk away with about $21.5 million in stock and options

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Drew, who resigned May 14, can keep $17.1 million in unvested restricted shares and about $4.4 million in options that she otherwise would have been required to forfeit if the New York-based bank had terminated her employment “with cause,” according to regulatory filings and estimates from consulting firm Meridian Compensation Partners LLC.

A 30-year JPMorgan veteran, Drew also had accumulated 661,000 unrestricted shares of common stock worth about $23.7 million based on the May 14 closing price, $9.7 million in deferred compensation and $2.6 million in pension pay as of Dec. 31, according to company filings. Altogether, Drew’s stock, pension and deferred pay come to about $57.5 million.

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Drew, 55, oversaw the London traders responsible for a $2 billion loss on credit derivatives that Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon said “violated common sense.” Shares of the largest U.S. bank have plunged 19.1 percent since Bloomberg News first reported on April 5 that JPMorgan was having trouble unwinding illiquid bets on credit derivatives. While Dimon told lawmakers in separate hearings this month that the company could claw back two years of bonuses, Drew’s pay probably won’t be affected, according to compensation consultants
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-29/jpmorgan-cushions-drew-s-retirement-with-21-5-million.html

JustAnotherGen

(32,056 posts)
2. Time to yank
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:55 AM
Jun 2012

My two savings accounts there. I already moved one to my husband's credit union after we were married in April. They have too much money in them to be risked by this nonsense. Small business owner looking for a loan? Yep! Family trying to buy a home? Yep!


Hedge Fund manager playing finance games. No waaaaaaaaaay.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
6. I've been wondering if government copies bankster dress,
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

or whether banksters copy government dress. Just where did the suit and tie originate, and how did it come to be associated with lying cheating stealing from poor people?

 

Huey P. Long

(1,932 posts)
13. I believe the cufflinks were a signal that 'WE/I RUN THIS PLACE".
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jun 2012

Just look at who gives all the money to the committe members.

harun

(11,348 posts)
4. That's one big D'OH
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:41 AM
Jun 2012


Personally risk is a good thing. It encourages restraint. Maybe JP Morgan's Risk Mitigation unit (that goes and loses 9 billion) will teach the rest of the gamblers a lesson.
 

Huey P. Long

(1,932 posts)
17. Um, they just get more taxpayer money to bail them out.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jun 2012

Socialize cost, privatize profit.

Its the fascist way. America's way now too.

still_one

(92,548 posts)
7. and it was only a little while ago when dimon was before congress, and the repukes were swooning
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:00 AM
Jun 2012

Over him with such statements like he should be in charge of US finances

The country is so over with

There is no doubt in my mind that this is a country by the corporations, for the corporations

Thav

(946 posts)
9. JPMorgan lost enough money to fund operations for my state for 1.5 years
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jun 2012

and people think that he's doing a GOOD JOB? And he has the gall to argue in front of congress that his business shouldn't have to play by any rules and just let things happen as they will?

$9 billion. I'd have to work for 180,000 years to earn that much money, and he's acting like it's no big deal?

I think we need a new term for these banks: Too big to exist.

Volaris

(10,281 posts)
10. "I'd have to work for 180,000 years to earn that much money..."
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:16 AM
Jun 2012

And some single parent somewhere doesn't have cash to pay for this semester's tuition, cause they decided it's more necessary to feed the kid than go to school.

Christian America, my ass.

 

caroll31

(20 posts)
20. The banksters at JPMChase will receive even larger bonuses for demonstrating
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:09 PM
Jun 2012

So this must mean that the banksters at JPMChase will receive even larger bonuses for demonstrating, yet again, their absolute brilliance, all while the good ship America continues to take in water.

Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
23. The attitude to these fuckers always seems to be "They're damn smart; they just had some bad luck."
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jun 2012

I remember 'experts' saying that about the Long Term Capital Management big-wigs.

Seems to me they're dumb as hell; they just seem to get lucky when the market is going up.

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