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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:34 PM Jun 2012

Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional Record

Source: Roll Call

June 29, 2012, 12:06 p.m.

In the midst of a fiery floor debate over contempt proceedings for Attorney General Eric Holder, House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) quietly dropped a bombshell letter into the Congressional Record.

The May 24 letter to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), ranking member on the panel, quotes from and describes in detail a secret wiretap application that has become a point of debate in the GOP’s “Fast and Furious” gun-walking probe.

The wiretap applications are under court seal, and releasing such information to the public would ordinarily be illegal. But Issa appears to be protected by the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution, which offers immunity for Congressional speech, especially on a chamber’s floor.

According to the letter, the wiretap applications contained a startling amount of detail about the operation, which would have tipped off anyone who read them closely about what tactics were being used.


Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/darrell_issa_puts_details_of_secret_wiretap_applications_in_congressional-215828-1.html



this is probably the reason they held the vote as they knew DOJ wasn't going to prosecute. Slimey asshats.

updated with GOP nonsense:
Fast and Furious: GOP says wiretaps revealed 'Gunwalking' early on

The Justice Department approved the wiretap application on March 15, 2010. It includes a lengthy affidavit giving details of the case. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) contends that was enough to alert anyone who read it that a massive amount of "gunwalking" was going on. The affidavit describes in detail how ATF agents had surveilled multiple suspected gun traffickers for Mexican drug cartels, but made no arrests or interdictions. Previously, Holder had testified that the wiretap application gave no hint of gunwalking.


"Contrary to the Attorney General's statements, the enclosed wiretap affidavit contains clear information that agents were willfully allowing known straw buyers to acquire firearms for drug cartels and failing to interdict them-in some cases even allowing them to walk to Mexico. In particular, the affidavit explicitly describes the most controversial tactic of all: abandoning surveillance of known straw purchasers, resulting in the failure to interdict firearms," says Issa.


Issa's counterpart on the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), today took issue with the idea that the wiretap application disclosed any hint of gunwalking. He says Issa is "hiding key information" from the very same wiretap documents.


"Sadly, it looks like Mr. Issa is continuing his string of desperate and unsubstantiated claims... His actions demonstrate a lack of concern for the facts, as well as a reckless disregard for our nation's courts and federal prosecutors who are trying to bring criminals to justice. We're not going to stoop to his level," said a Cummings spokesman.


more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57464139-10391695/fast-and-furious-gop-says-wiretaps-revealed-gunwalking-early-on/
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Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional Record (Original Post) maddezmom Jun 2012 OP
Darrell Issa nahant Jun 2012 #1
Let me get this straight Dakota Flint Jun 2012 #2
Before D-Day Dwight Eisenhower arrested one of his generals and had him .... Botany Jun 2012 #5
Eisenhower was a remarkable man, before, during and after his presidency. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #12
Huh?! All this time I thought we were supposed tblue37 Jun 2012 #15
Who knew? I thought it was "High five, man alive! Down low, way to go!" MADem Jun 2012 #21
Have you read the contents of the wiretap application? iconocrastic Jun 2012 #22
darrell is gonna get people killed Botany Jun 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #4
Now here you would be correct except it looks like he used the legal protection congress enjoys cstanleytech Jun 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #8
Yup kinda like Cheney with Plame. nt cstanleytech Jun 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #11
Issa Has Engaged In Selective Redacting DallasNE Jun 2012 #7
All we have is Issa's interpretation pscot Jun 2012 #26
So, it's kind of a James O'Keefe type thing? lolly Jun 2012 #27
EVERYTHING that issa does shanti Jun 2012 #28
I sincerely hope this @sshat gives himself enough rope to hang one of these days. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #9
delete me FreeBC Jun 2012 #13
So Issa is above the law? SoutherDem Jun 2012 #14
Lock him up! kitt6 Jun 2012 #16
I don't understand what this secret letter is suppose to show and how it works against the southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #17
just updated my OP, here is a link from CBS maddezmom Jun 2012 #18
I just say F it and let the chips fall where they may. But I would make sure I would southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #20
Arizona laws don't allow officials to do anything about the problem. Thank the NRA and the Rs. Coyotl Jun 2012 #24
Issa the crook just Smilo Jun 2012 #19
Is Darrell Issa on the payroll of the Mexican drug cartels? nt MrScorpio Jun 2012 #23
Congressional Immunity should not preclude ethics investigation ThoughtCriminal Jun 2012 #25
 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
2. Let me get this straight
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jun 2012

So if some congressman during WWII had inserted documents concerning the Manhattan Project or details for the D-Day invasion into the Congressional Record that would have been perfectly legal?

Botany

(70,677 posts)
5. Before D-Day Dwight Eisenhower arrested one of his generals and had him ....
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

.... sent back to the States because he was talking about the invasion in a
pub in London.

BTW welcome to DU. Please remember the secret DU handshake and only use it
when needed.

tblue37

(65,556 posts)
15. Huh?! All this time I thought we were supposed
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jun 2012

to use "jazz hands" as our secret handshake. Imust have looked so goofy shaking my jazz hands at every DU person I met!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Who knew? I thought it was "High five, man alive! Down low, way to go!"
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:49 PM
Jun 2012

Could it be a regional thing.

Botany

(70,677 posts)
3. darrell is gonna get people killed
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jun 2012

the Mexican drug gangs are brutal and you know they have already looked
@ the Congressional record.

BTW this is also why A.G. Holder could not give Issa all the papers he wanted because their
is an ongoing criminal investigation. Cheney and Rove outed Plame and her contacts were
put at risk and some might have be killed and now this crap?

Bottom line Issa is un-American.

Response to Botany (Reply #3)

cstanleytech

(26,373 posts)
6. Now here you would be correct except it looks like he used the legal protection congress enjoys
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jun 2012

to get away with it atleast as far as prosecuting him goes though I wonder if congress could censure him for it not that that repairs the damage.

Response to cstanleytech (Reply #6)

Response to cstanleytech (Reply #10)

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
7. Issa Has Engaged In Selective Redacting
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jun 2012

Disclosing the accusatory accusations but redacting the response. As Chairman, he is allowed to do this but it is highly inappropriate. And it says nothing about the lax gun laws in Arizona that permits these straw purchases and the inability to get attorney's to accept the cases.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
27. So, it's kind of a James O'Keefe type thing?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

Selective editing to make something look like the opposite of itself?

shanti

(21,675 posts)
28. EVERYTHING that issa does
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jun 2012

is inappropriate. he got our former DEM governor, gray davis, recalled on false pretenses, and we were stuck with arnold. what kills me is that he keeps getting re-elected! he's pondscum, just ask us californians!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. I don't understand what this secret letter is suppose to show and how it works against the
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jun 2012

DOJ. Can someone explain it alittle simpler for me.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
20. I just say F it and let the chips fall where they may. But I would make sure I would
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jun 2012

start back when it was with the Bush administration. Lying bastards.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
24. Arizona laws don't allow officials to do anything about the problem. Thank the NRA and the Rs.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:33 AM
Jun 2012

The problem is that AZ is controlled by a bunch of gun nuts who don't permit control of guns.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,058 posts)
25. Congressional Immunity should not preclude ethics investigation
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jun 2012

Even if he can avoid prosecution, at a minimum he should face a reprimand. Won't happen as long as the GOP controls the house, but Democrats should at least make the demand.

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