US Senate healthcare repeal bill fails
Source: BBC
US Senate attempt to repeal Obama healthcare act fails after late-night drama and disarray
Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40750071?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
Short and sweet!
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,273 posts)Salviati
(6,009 posts)He voted against his party leadership when it actually meant something. Granted, as is his M.O., he did it in the face of extreme public support for his position, but it still counts for something.
BigmanPigman
(51,680 posts)even though he "got his from taxpayers' money". That is not a hero. He had his chance and blew it. He is GOP and voted with them. If he hadn't we wouldn't be going through this crap right now!
You should give credit where it is due... the people who have been resisting in every way possible for months and months. I began calling them back in January! I marched and attended die-in/candle light vigils while ill myself!
Salviati
(6,009 posts)I'm just going to concede that he may not be entirely a piece of shit human being. I'll give him about as much credit as I do the ultra-conservatives that decide to not hate their own gay children. I shouldn't have to give them credit for that, but that's the world we live in these days I guess.
Demsrule86
(68,875 posts)16 million maybe more. I believe had this passed, the markets would have collapsed.
theophilus
(3,750 posts)Mr. McCain did play the role of a hero in this one. He knows he really has nothing to lose. Look at all the rest. If we cannot thank the man along with the two women then we are like the Repugs. We must be better than they are. Give him credit for staring into the face of death and doing something that is right, whatever his reason may be. I , for one, for now, say "Thank you, Mr. McCain. I shook his hand when he was pushing campaign finance reform a million years ago. Tonight I am glad I did so, once again.
George Eliot
(701 posts)I think he had a little fun with his face off with the bully McConnell glaring at him.
c-rational
(2,603 posts)FakeNoose
(32,930 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Just shut up and listen to your speeches from the ACA vote.
I hope he starts to cry!
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)hibbing
(10,119 posts)Respond thoughtfully and rationally I am sure. I hope this vote is hung around the neck of all of the senators in half way competitive states.
Peace
Rollo
(2,559 posts)cstanleytech
(26,373 posts)hold outs to get one of them to swing their vote.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or just blame Democrats.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)blamed 3 republicans and 48 Democrats. Says to let the ACA fail and then deal with it.
Midnight Writer
(21,888 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)harun
(11,348 posts)Rhiannon12866
(207,095 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)Looking forward to Trump's tweets tomorrow.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I could watch it all day.
Tanuki
(14,931 posts)Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)for the duration of this presidency.
sprinkleeninow
(20,273 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,680 posts)Can you fill me in...I am kind of light headed right now.
LeftInTX
(25,849 posts)They are obsessed with repealing.
The Koch's are demanding it.
As soon as Turtle head can find another scheme, he will try again.
It may be tomorrow, next week, who knows
rpannier
(24,354 posts)That'll be his cue
harun
(11,348 posts)not enough votes.
Graham, McCain, Murcowski and Collins have all had enough with trying to make Trump look good.
(I know Graham didn't vote against it but he is sick of Trumps BS and is publicly saying so)
still_one
(92,562 posts)qanda
(10,422 posts)Because this zombie bill seems to have a million lives.
FakeNoose
(32,930 posts)Unfortunately all this fake healthcare crap would be happening anyway, even without Trump. The only way to end this is to get a majority in the Senate.
CountAllVotes
(20,884 posts)not McDonnell !!
rpannier
(24,354 posts)Cuz if either of those things happen, Mitch the Turtle will be on it real quick
not fooled
(5,807 posts)drown in their tears. Do the country good.
Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)republicans tonight.
They've wasted 7 1/2 years and got nothing.
CountAllVotes
(20,884 posts)All talk and no action = tRump's LAME DUCK presidency!
UCmeNdc
(9,602 posts)McCain did the right thing
Agreed.
D.
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)So happy that at least the nation has a reprieve - for now. That reptilican repeal and replace bill is like a thousand headed hydra, tho. Bet it comes back at some point. Now on to the drama of dumbf's horrid proposed budget and tax cuts for the upper 1% come fall.
BumRushDaShow
(130,186 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Three Republicans with some integrity.
DeminPennswoods
(15,307 posts)Murkowski lost a GOP primary, then was elected as a write-in candidate with bi-partisan support.
Collins actually met with Mainers during the 4th of July recess and heard an overwhelming majority of her constituents say they supported her opposition to repeal.
McCain recently got pretty much a terminal brain cancer diagnosis.
None had/have any reason to fear Trump or his minions.
former9thward
(32,189 posts)McCain was being ripped and cursed on here on countless threads just yesterday.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seemed odd for him to vote the way he did previously in light of the speech that he gave. Perhaps he had this dramatic conclusion in mind from the outset.
DeminPennswoods
(15,307 posts)locked on to McConnell's tailpipe.
gademocrat7
(10,693 posts)Millions of American families will still have health insurance. Planned Parenthood will continue to save women's lives and Mcturdle and Chump are defeated .
watoos
(7,142 posts)It was 20 years ago but I believe my mother had similar brain cancer, she only made it 4 months.
Best wishes and good health John McCain because the moment you die Republicans will be dancing.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,805 posts)Trump lost McCain's vote--and he alienated another key R, Murkowski, in a way that could last. By @jameshohmann
Link to tweet
By James Hohmann July 28 at 7:02 AM
With Breanne Deppisch and Joanie Greve
THE BIG IDEA: President Trumps attacks on Republican senators are finally catching up with him, and Lisa Murkowski will not be bullied.
-- A last-ditch effort to keep the Obamacare repeal push alive went down by a vote of 51 to 49 in the wee hours of Friday morning, with three GOP members breaking ranks: John McCain, Susan Collins and Murkowski. ... Mitch McConnell then pulled the legislation from consideration. It is time to move on, a dejected majority leader said.
-- There is nothing Trump can do any more that will get to McCain. Battling an aggressive form of brain cancer, the maverick was willing to vote no on the skinny repeal amendment so that other GOP colleagues who were also opposed to the measure could vote yes to save face with the conservative base. To this day, Trump has never apologized for saying that the former fighter pilot was not a war hero because he got captured in Vietnam. It gets less attention, but the president also besmirched the Arizona senators character by repeatedly accusing him of not taking care of other veterans. McCain has never forgotten.
-- A lot of the media coverage in the wake of the vote will focus on McCain, because he's the most famous, and Collins was always going to vote no. But Murkowskis opposition was equally decisive and perhaps most illustrative of the problems ahead for Trump. .... Trump, who won Alaska by 15 points, ripped the states senior senator on Twitter Wednesday after she opposed a key procedural motion to open debate on health care:
{snip the tweets}
Later that day, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke called Murkowski and the states other Republican senator, Dan Sullivan, to threaten that the Trump administration may change its position on several issues that affect the state to punish Murkowski, such as blocking energy exploration and plans to allow the construction of new roads. The message was pretty clear, Sullivan told the Alaska Dispatch News. ... Nevertheless, Murkowski persisted. In fact, she took it one step further and demonstrated that she has more leverage over Zinke than he has over her. As chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Murkowski indefinitely postponed a nominations markup that the Interior Department badly wants.
....
James Hohmann is a national political correspondent for The Washington Post. Follow @JamesHohmann
"Nevertheless, Murkowski persisted."
ProgressiveValue
(130 posts)They stopped the rest from killing millions of people.
sinkingfeeling
(51,505 posts)fix problems and restore risk corridor funding?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But who cares.
greatauntoftriplets
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bucolic_frolic
(43,588 posts)Would be an easy vote for Democrats