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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 12:56 PM Sep 2017

Election Integrity Commission members accuse New Hampshire voters of fraud

Source: The Washington Post




By David Weigel September 8 at 9:06 AM

Days before they meet in New Hampshire, members of the White House’s Election Integrity Commission have seized on a report about same-day registration to allege that massive fraud might have swung the state’s 2016 vote. Both voters and election experts say the allegation — accusing thousands of voters of criminal activity simply for living in New Hampshire but holding out-of-state driver’s licenses — are baseless.

The accusation arose Thursday morning, when Shawn Jasper, the speaker of New Hampshire’s Republican-run House of Representatives, released data on same-day registrants that he’d obtained from the secretary of state’s office. In November 2016, 6,540 voters had registered to vote on Election Day. As of Aug. 30, just 1,014 of those voters had obtained a New Hampshire drivers license. A few hundred voters did not obtain state licenses but had registered cars in the state.

That was enough for Jasper to allege thousands of fraudulent votes — and for Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, the vice chairman of the commission, to flatly allege that fraudulent voters might have stolen the state’s four electoral votes and a U.S. Senate seat away from Republicans.

“If 59.2 percent or more of them went for (Democratic Sen. Maggie) Hassan, then the election was stolen through voter fraud,” Kobach wrote in a column for Breitbart. “That’s likely, since the surrounding states are Democrat (sic) strongholds.”


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/08/election-integrity-commission-members-accuse-new-hampshire-voters-of-fraud/?utm_term=.ed2b2f1911ea

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Botany

(70,655 posts)
1. The gas lighting of America continues .....
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 01:02 PM
Sep 2017

An Election Integrity Commission w/Kris Kobach and Ken Blackwell?

How about a securities investment firm headed by Bernie Madoff?

A bank robbery protection team w/John Dillinger?

A young teen boys dorm watched over by Jerry Sandusky?

These mother fuckers know that they cheated and so they are trying to
change the subject.

It was a coup and we had treason.

SergeStorms

(19,205 posts)
11. Yep.......
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 02:39 PM
Sep 2017

always accuse others of the crime you, yourself, are guilty of committing. It's been the GOP way of life for the past 60 years, and there's no reason for them to stop now.

Botany

(70,655 posts)
13. Ever since they passed HAVA (help america vote act) we have had a red shift in voting despite ....
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 09:05 PM
Sep 2017

.... the population dynamics that have favored Ds and that more Americans support
"our side."

Can you think of the shit storm we would have if Kobach's interstate cross check
program dropped white men from upper income neighborhoods because we are
afraid they are "voting twice?"

BTW in the past 60 years we had good Rs too .... Ike, Margaret Chase Smith,
Ray Shafer (out nieghor's brother), Chuck Percy, and others .... those days are
long gone.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,756 posts)
2. Oh, but there's more. I was reading the article as you posted, ready to put it in Eds and Other Arts
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 01:07 PM
Sep 2017

Retweeted by David Fahrenthold: https://twitter.com/fahrenthold

In one hour, I found four legit NH voters whom Kobach accused of being fraudulent.



Election Integrity Commission members accuse New Hampshire voters of fraud

By David Weigel September 8 at 9:06 AM

....
Kobach apparently made no attempt to contact voters who’d cast ballots but held out-of-state IDs. Thursday night, The Washington Post asked voters who’d done so to tell their stories; three did so within 60 minutes — college students, who were living in New Hampshire but did not change their licenses.
....

It’s possible that thousands of other New Hampshire college students voted the same way; the ability of temporary residents to swing close elections has been controversial in the state for years, as Democrats go through the same biennial battle to drive up turnout on campuses.



“Apparently, Kobach is saying that voting should be limited to people who drive cars,” said David Becker, director of the Center for Election Innovation. “He’s basically saying Bill Gardner, New Hampshire’s secretary of state — his colleague — is incompetent. And he’s doing it without a basis.”
....

But Kobach was only the most prominent commission member mangling the data. J. Christian Adams, a commission member who has sometimes accused voters of fraud based on badly flawed data, wrote Thursday that the 5,000-plus voters who had voted in 2016 but had not switched their IDs could “no longer be found in New Hampshire.”

That was false: Even the chair of Dartmouth’s College Democrats, Jennifer West, said Thursday that she held an out-of-state ID while studying and organizing voters in New Hampshire.



Nonetheless, Kobach and the commission will arrive in New Hampshire next week — at Patrick Derenze’s old campus, St. Anselm College — to discuss, among other things, “election integrity issues affecting public confidence.”

David Weigel is a national political correspondent covering Congress and grassroots political movements. He's the author of "The Show That Never Ends," a history of progressive rock music. Follow @daveweigel

J. Christian Adams used to live not far from me. He's still nearby.

Mister Ed

(5,951 posts)
3. They don't want the truth. They want ammunition they can use for their voter suppression efforts.
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 01:09 PM
Sep 2017

They are trying to pretend that voter registration is the same as casting a ballot, and it absolutely is not.

Millions and millions of people across the country, both Republican and Democrat, are registered to vote in more than one state. That occurs naturally when people move from one state to another, and it is absolutely legal. What would be illegal would be for one of those voters to try to vote in both states.

Furthermore, voting has nothing to do with automobile ownership and operation. Those are entirely separate things.

None of this will matter to the Republicans and their Fox News propaganda organ, though. They'll be flogging this bullshit really hard in order to gain support for greater voter suppression efforts.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. From Mr. Voter Fraud
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 01:14 PM
Sep 2017
and reported to Mr. White Supremacist, Bannon by way of Brietbart.

Liars will be liars. They have no morals nor shame.

Jim__

(14,096 posts)
12. All this demonstrates is the lack of integrity of Trump's election integrity commission.
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 02:45 PM
Sep 2017

They require no proof, they don't investigate the alleged evidence, if the conclusion is convenient for them, they run with it.

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