Christians in U.S. Military Serve Satan If They Tolerate Other Religions, Air Force Chaplain Says
Source: Newsweek
A U.S. Air Force chaplain who ministers to thousands of men and women at an Ohio base is asserting that Christians in the U.S. Armed Forces serve Satan and are grossly in error if they support service members' right to practice other faiths.
In an article posted on BarbWire.com three days ago, Captain Sonny Hernandez, an Air Force Reserve chaplain for the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, criticized Christian service members who rely on the Constitution and not Christ.
He wrote: Counterfeit Christians in the Armed forces will appeal to the Constitution, and not Christ, and they have no local church homewhich means they have no accountability for their souls (Heb. 13:17). This is why so many professing Christian service members will say: 'We support everyones right to practice their faith regardless if they worship a god different from ours because the Constitution protects this right.
Hernandez continued: Christian service members who openly profess and support the rights of Muslims, Buddhists, and all other anti-Christian worldviews to practice their religionsbecause the language in the Constitution permitsare grossly in error, and deceived.
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Kingofalldems
(38,511 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,835 posts)n/t
Sanity Claws
(21,866 posts)yardwork
(61,785 posts)elleng
(131,391 posts)he has no business there.
mpcamb
(2,881 posts)Don't know what it was, but it wasn't this OT line of reasoning.
That's a book that you can make sound like whatever you want to.
Hmm... very useful from the pupit or your favorite radio station.
Phoenix61
(17,026 posts)don't get deployed. A little drastic but probably effective.
sarisataka
(18,913 posts)To just resign his commission
Zorro
(15,756 posts)but it sounds as if Sonny is the one who serves Satan.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Assholes like this don't belong amongst heroes. Get rid of him.
maxsolomon
(33,461 posts)How utterly ignorant and offensive. Ugh, Christian Supremacists.
BTW, Chaplain, Buddhism likely influenced Jesus' worldview, since it proceeded him by 500 years. There's nothing anti-Christian about it.
weissmam
(905 posts)Former U.S. Air Force Chaplain - what complete ass--hole and a slap in the face to 100,000s of men and women of other faiths that have served and will serve -
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)A recipe for trouble
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)Of fairly high rank.
He told us that the Air Force is chock full of personnel who are just like this guy.
Born Again, Evangelical narrow minded white Christian God-before-everything types.
I find that attitude very very disturbing, but hey, what else is new in the US?
I cannot help but ponder what would happen to these individuals, if somehow it was clear to them beyond a doubt that their God did not exist, and in fact was completely a creation of man.
I also cannot help but wonder how they can be so ignorant about reality on this planet, where there are religions like Hinduism that were well established thousands of years before Christ.
Oh, I forgot, creation is only 6,000 years old, so that is "fake news".
If only the good people of this earth could just leave all of this nonsense, hatred and disunity behind, and truly work for a better world for all, now.
This farcical pie-in-the-sky model sure is not working.
The wisdom of Tito (Terry) Francona, the coach of the fabulous Cleveland Indians, would go far in this world.
He basically always states that he coaches the team to not worry about the next game, they are here to play and win now.
The players always say this in interviews, and they are surely a marvelous team to know and watch.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)an unrepentant whoremonger, and -- read your Bible, Captain -- that puts America's security at risk.
genxlib
(5,547 posts)Has a history of this kind of BS. Would not be surprising if he is a product?
LudwigPastorius
(9,262 posts)Next stop: civilian life.
sarge43
(28,946 posts)chowder66
(9,104 posts)Grins
(7,263 posts)To which they swore an oath to uphold! I served as an officer in the Army and never met a Chaplain like this. Ever!
atreides1
(16,110 posts)I was an NCO in the Army and I never met a Chaplain like that! But this has been going on in the USAF, especially at their academy for a number of years!
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/air-force-academy-staff-found-promoting-religion.html
https://www.au.org/church-state/may-2005-church-state/people-events/air-force-academy-rocked-by-charges-of-religious
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/03/airforce.religion/index.html?_s=PM:US
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/air-force-academy-religion-proselytism_n_1678092.html
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,382 posts)I don't know what the church environment is like around West Point or Annapolis.
My Army chaplain was kept things generic and low-key, but that was fifty years ago.
TomSlick
(11,138 posts)In 27 years of service, I never met a chaplain like this AND do not believe it would be tolerated.
Somebody watching this story should tell us how long the good chaplain continues to be a USAF officer.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Not that he ever would but I'd suggest that he get out into the world a little more, meet more people, read more books, study other religions and philosophies (since that seems to be his thing) and learn the histories of at least the major religions (for example, the writings of Huston Smith). This meme in Christianity about all other religions being "of Satan" is a little worn out in today's inter-connected world. Sadly, it still scares a lot of people and I've no doubt he likes that little power trip.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)That's not The oath he took as an officer either
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Zorro
(15,756 posts)he'll be making the rounds complaining that he's been persecuted for his religious beliefs.
sakabatou
(42,204 posts)CanonRay
(14,144 posts)I think it is as a result of the conjunction of the Academy and Colorado Springs. I guess he forgot he swore an oath to uphold the constitution and not to uphold the Bible.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Initech
(100,145 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,044 posts)Many Protestants and Catholics consider the other to be false Christians.
He does not even have to consider other religions concerning his personal beliefs.
So much for the Judeo-Christian theory of our country's heritage?
shenmue
(38,506 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)many of which have stars of David or Crescents on them instead of crosses.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Either that, or an inherent flaw in the human brain. If the latter then there's little hope that mankind will survive long enough to evolve beyond it.
niyad
(113,941 posts)or command in the military. they need to be GONE.
Calling Michael Newdow
woodsprite
(11,940 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)HAB911
(8,946 posts)The U.S. military, which defends pride, material success, carnal indulgence, and individual freedom, is The Great Satan.
Link to tweet
democrank
(11,112 posts)Get rid of him.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,052 posts)"I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;..."
pansypoo53219
(21,010 posts)marked50
(1,373 posts)has been fighting this stuff in the Air Force for some time.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-force-sued-over-religion/
He started the following website for this purpose:
https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)for years - exactly...
From his website...MRFF -
Mikey Weinstein is the undisputed leader of the national movement to restore the obliterated wall separating church and state in the most technologically lethal organization ever created by humankind: the United States armed forces.
When you do look him up there are so many hateful op-eds against him..and of course..coming in from the real xtians - don'tcha know..
Pathetic - this so called chaplain needs to be dismissed....
LiberalLovinLug
(14,180 posts)They should disavow the Constitution they have sworn an oath to protect,
and to not only believe in his invisible friend exclusively, but to also not tolerate any others from having their own invisible friends. And if you do tolerate this, you are in bed with his invisible monster.
riversedge
(70,448 posts).....MRFF founder Michael Weinstein, a retired Air Force officer, says the article is evidence of the trickle-down effect of President Donald Trump's relationship with the far fringes of the Christian right.
"Americas military members look to the president for direction and inspiration," Weinstein said. "Trumps statements and actions have fully endorsed and validated this unbridled tidal wave of fundamentalist Christian persecution, which is now more inextricably intertwined into the very fabric of our Department of Defense than ever before."
Earlier this year, the MRFF told Newsweek that the number of complaints it has received from servicemen and -women in the Army, Air Force, Marines and other branches has doubled since Trumps election.
Many of the recent charges are coming from members of minority religions, including Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims, and from atheists. Among the complaints: military family and marital therapy programs are being infused with Protestant Christianity, which would violate the U.S. Constitution; open anti-Semitism; anti-LGBT statements, posters, symbols and bullying; openly anti-Muslim teachers and Islamophobic attacks; a rise in on-base evangelizing; and increased pressure on recruits or lower-level personnel and service members to convert to fundamentalist Christianity.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)...while saying shit like this, is unacceptable.
If this chaplain had said something like "black people are no good and don't belong in the army" he'd be canned.
And he should also lose his job for the statement he DID make.
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turbinetree
(24,745 posts)wolfie001
(2,312 posts).....is a piece of shit!!! Good night
jmowreader
(50,594 posts)I think this chaplain wants to be the next Gordon Klingenschmitt.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)The asshole is a clear public menace, and yes, he's got higher ambitions
xor
(1,204 posts)I can't see this being tolerated by an officer or someone who has much sway over people as a chaplain.
brooklynite
(94,974 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)This is America. The freaking Pilgrims came here to escape the freaking chistofascists of Europe. Get a freaking clue about E Pluribus Unum. And resign immediately. You have disgraced yourself and the Air Force.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)Accept no substitutes
maxrandb
(15,393 posts)There's no need to go through the whole Summary, General Court Martial process.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)and other money-making opportunities
hunter
(38,350 posts)Why does the Air Force tolerate this shit?
Seems to me the devil did take Sonny Hernandez up to the parapet of the temple, and that he failed the test. Those weren't the wigs of heavenly angels carrying him down.
Matthew 4:5
A lot of these Air Force jocks do fail that test.
If it were up to me, I'd severely prune back the entire military industrial complex, and then I'd dissolve the Air Force back into the Army, Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard, leaving out all the self-proclaimed right wing Christian nut jobs.
Guys like Hernandez and the higher ranks that defend them shouldn't be anywhere near nuclear weapons. The scary thing is that the radical right Christian wing of the Air Force probably has a few stashed away for their masturbatory Armageddon fantasies.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,254 posts)If he is uncomfortable with other faiths, he has no business being an Air Force chaplain. A chaplain's job is to offer spiritual counsel, not for his personal beliefs and personal brand of Christianity on others.