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(60,536 posts) Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:03 AM Sep 2017

House Dems Ask Federal Judge To Reject Trump Pardon Of Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Source: Talking Points Memo

By NICOLE LAFOND Published SEPTEMBER 28, 2017 8:23 AM

More than 30 House Democrats have filed an amicus brief asking a federal judge to reject President Donald Trump’s pardon of controversial former Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Trump announced he would pardon Arpaio of his criminal contempt of court conviction for racially profiling against Latinos while serving as county sheriff in Maricopa County in Arizona. Arpaio was an early Trump supporter and the President said he was treated “unbelievably unfairly.” But House Democrats think his pardon is unconstitutional and intrudes on the judicial branch, Politico reported.

“A full and unconditional presidential pardon….effectively deprives the Court of ‘the independent means of self-protection,’ and makes the Court dependent on the Executive,” the House members wrote. “The pardon here is an intentional usurpation of the Court’s authority by the President. President Trump does not pretend that his pardon of the Defendant is based upon the considerations of grace that usually justify the exercise of the pardon power.”

Arpaio was found guilty of contempt of court in July and Trump pardoned the former sheriff on Aug. 25.

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House Dems Ask Federal Judge To Reject Trump Pardon Of Sheriff Joe Arpaio (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP

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No. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #2

Nonsense.Must do all we can to keep this man from holding any onit2day Sep 2017 #4

This makes me smile Gothmog Sep 2017 #3

Real justice hurts 45, so let's have it. truthisfreedom Sep 2017 #5

The President's power to pardon is absolute. Calista241 Sep 2017 #6

She wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted. DonViejo Sep 2017 #7

It's the same power he exercised. Calista241 Sep 2017 #8

Doesn't change the fact her sentence was commuted; she was NOT pardoned. DonViejo Sep 2017 #9

My thought was that if you can reverse the grant of a pardon Calista241 Sep 2017 #10

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Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)

2. No.

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:32 PM

Sep 2017

onit2day

(1,201 posts)

4. Nonsense.Must do all we can to keep this man from holding any

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:45 PM

Sep 2017

office. Jail him if possible. His corruption is full of abhorrent behavior that must never be overlooked or forgotten as he trained a whole department to behave in the same manner. Trump never looked at the merits of this case because he doesn't read.

Gothmog

(145,941 posts)

3. This makes me smile

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:39 PM

Sep 2017

truthisfreedom

(23,169 posts)

5. Real justice hurts 45, so let's have it.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:12 PM

Sep 2017

Calista241

(5,586 posts)

6. The President's power to pardon is absolute.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 04:22 PM

Sep 2017

There is no rejecting, no contesting, no nothing. The only possible check on this power is impeachment.

It's why Chelsea Manning is walking free today. You don't think Trump or Repubs would have put her back in jail in a New York minute if they had the power to do so?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)

7. She wasn't pardoned, her sentence was commuted.

Reply to Calista241 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 05:53 PM

Sep 2017

Calista241

(5,586 posts)

8. It's the same power he exercised.

Reply to DonViejo (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:09 PM

Sep 2017

While her crime wasn't removed from her record, her sentence was shortened by the Executive pardoning power.

The relevant text from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 2.1 clause 1 reads:

"and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)

9. Doesn't change the fact her sentence was commuted; she was NOT pardoned.

Reply to Calista241 (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 28, 2017, 07:15 PM

Sep 2017

Calista241

(5,586 posts)

10. My thought was that if you can reverse the grant of a pardon

Reply to DonViejo (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 29, 2017, 09:38 AM

Sep 2017

You can also reverse clemency issued by a previous President. Since it’s basically the same mechanism from the Constitution.

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