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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,751 posts)
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:06 AM Sep 2017

U.S. Supreme Court to Scrutinize Mandatory Union Fees Again

Source: Bloomberg

U.S. Supreme Court to Scrutinize Mandatory Union Fees Again

By Greg Stohr

September 28, 2017, 9:31 AM EDT

The U.S. Supreme Court said it will try for a second time to decide whether 5 million government workers can refuse to pay union fees, accepting a case that could deal a major blow to the labor movements finances and clout. ... Revisiting an issue that deadlocked them in March 2016, the justices will consider overturning a 1977 ruling that lets public-sector unions in 22 states demand fees from workers who arent members. Those so-called agency fees are designed to pay for union representation on such matters as pay negotiations.

Union critics say the mandatory fees violate the Constitutions First Amendment, forcing workers to support unions that dont share their priorities on matters of public importance. The court will hear an appeal from Mark Janus, an Illinois government employee challenging a state law that allows agency fees. ... "Janus and millions of other public employees are effectively being required to support a government-appointed lobbyist," his lawyers at the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation argued in the appeal.

The 1977 ruling, known as Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, said agency fees were constitutional so long as workers didnt have to cover the cost of political or ideological activities. ... Two years ago in a case involving California teachers, the courts conservative wing had appeared to be on the brink of overturning Abood. But Justice Antonin Scalias February 2016 death left the group without a fifth vote, and the court instead split 4-4. Justice Neil Gorsuchs arrival on the court may mean the effort to topple Abood is back on track.
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The court will hear arguments early next year and rule by June. The case is Janus v. American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, Council 31, 16-1466.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/mandatory-union-fees-again-draw-u-s-supreme-court-scrutiny



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#scotus agrees to hear union fees case that labor dreads. Court split 4-4 last time case was heard, after Scalia died before ruling.




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Supreme Court to hear new challenge to labor unions

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-to-hear-new-challenge-to-labor-unions/2017/09/28/8b63b732-a453-11e7-b573-8ec86cdfe1ed_story.html

By Mark Sherman??AP September 28 at 9:57 AM

WASHINGTON A Supreme Court with a reconstituted conservative majority is taking on a new case with the potential to financially cripple Democratic-leaning labor unions that represent government workers. The justices deadlocked 4-4 in a similar case last year. ... The high court agreed Thursday to again consider a free-speech challenge from workers who object to paying money to unions they dont support. ... The court could decide to overturn a 40-year-old Supreme Court ruling that allows public sector unions to collect fees from non-members to cover the costs of negotiating contracts for all employees.

The latest appeal is from a state employee in Illinois. It was filed at the Supreme Court just two months after Justice Neil Gorsuch filled the high court seat that had been vacant since Justice Antonin Scalias death. ... The stakes are high. Union membership in the U.S. declined to just 10.7 percent of the workforce last year, and the ranks of private-sector unions have been especially hard hit.

The Illinois case involves Mark Janus, a state employee who says Illinois law violates his free speech rights by requiring him to pay fees subsidizing a union he doesnt support, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. About half the states have similar laws covering so-called fair share fees that cover bargaining costs for non-members.

Janus is seeking to overturn a 1977 Supreme Court case, Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, that said public workers who refuse to join a union can still be required to pay for bargaining costs, as long as the fees dont go toward political purposes. The arrangement was supposed to prevent non-members from free riding, since the union has a legal duty to represent all workers. ... A federal appeals court in Chicago rejected Janus claim in March. Gorsuch was confirmed in April and the appeal was filed in June.
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U.S. Supreme Court to Scrutinize Mandatory Union Fees Again (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2017 OP
Well this is good, just kick the unions while they're down....... a kennedy Sep 2017 #1
boss got it right Cryptoad Sep 2017 #7
To all the workers in this Country Hold On, we already know what Gorsuch wanted too do to a turbinetree Sep 2017 #2
Geewhizzz,,, Cryptoad Sep 2017 #3
Need to eliminate "exclusive representation" MichMan Sep 2017 #4
The Unions should to be able publish who are and who aren't dues paying members. Snotcicles Sep 2017 #5
That probably wouldnt work out the way you think. 7962 Sep 2017 #6

a kennedy

(29,773 posts)
1. Well this is good, just kick the unions while they're down.......
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:18 AM
Sep 2017

Why do people continue to cut their nose off despite their face...... Labor Unions were largely responsible for THE MIDDLE CLASS, being the middle class. Ugh....... I really don't get how stupid people can be.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
2. To all the workers in this Country Hold On, we already know what Gorsuch wanted too do to a
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:23 AM
Sep 2017

truck driver.................let him die in the cold and then we have this coming down the pike:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141873916


For all of those folks that don't remember the Franken /Gorsuch exchange:





This illegal jerk sitting on the bench



Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
3. Geewhizzz,,,
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 10:29 AM
Sep 2017

the more GOP shut down unions, the fewer people there are making a living wage...... funny how that works! MOst of these Turds with there noses up Trumps ass suffer the most........ "Damn Higher wages MAGA!"

MichMan

(12,002 posts)
4. Need to eliminate "exclusive representation"
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:36 AM
Sep 2017

Right now, due to exclusive representation clauses, unions have to represent everyone covered under the contract. This means in RTW states, even someone who decided to not join the union is still represented and is not allowed to bargain on their own.

To stop this freeloading, the exclusive representation laws and contract line items need to be abolished. If someone doesn't want to join the union let them bargain themselves for wages and benefits

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
5. The Unions should to be able publish who are and who aren't dues paying members.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 11:59 AM
Sep 2017

They need to be closed shops. Collective bargaining. Otherwise that competing cancer will erode the whole unit from within.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
6. That probably wouldnt work out the way you think.
Thu Sep 28, 2017, 12:03 PM
Sep 2017

If a company started paying non-members LESS, it would just drive more to re-join the union. Seems like the company would be pretty stupid to treat non-members differently. Then again, we see companies do stupid shit every day!

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