Texas attorney general: congregations should be armed after church shooting
Source: Guardian
Ken Paxton, a Republican, tells Fox News having guns in church means parishioners can take out a gunman
Lois Beckett
@loisbeckett
Monday 6 November 2017 00.57 EST
Hours after a mass shooting that left at least 26 people dead, the Texas attorney general said American churches should be arming some of the parishioners or hiring professional security.
Its going to happen again, the state attorney general, Republican Ken Paxton, told Fox News in an interview hours after the shooting at Sutherland Springs First Baptist Church in Texas, which claimed victims as young as five and as old as 72.
If more church-goers were armed theres always the opportunity that the gunman will be taken out before he has the opportunity to kill very many people, Paxton said.
As Americas mass shootings grow deadlier and more frequent, and Republicans like Paxton continue to block any new federal gun control laws, churches, schools and workplaces are devising security plans for responding to an armed attacker.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/texas-attorney-general-congregations-should-be-armed-after-church-shooting
sakabatou
(42,204 posts)Kablooie
(18,648 posts)And they shouldn't require a quarter to open them.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)and Kelley still killed 24.
7962
(11,841 posts)From other stories I've read, he was chased by the man who shot him and another man until he ran off the road, apparently died from blood loss from that gunshot wound
HAB911
(8,957 posts)I read he was not a parishioner but a neighbor.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)was wearing a confederate flag baseball hat.
I guess it was good that he came along and the other "hero" came from across the street, guns ablazing. But the shooter was leaving and the cowboy with a gun could have driven the shooter back into the church or into killing more people while on the run. Who knows about that, it's conjecture.
Wish I could post the photo of Johnnie Langerdorff from his FB page confederate hat and all.
Update -- Just heard Langerdorff on TV interview. He actually says he wasn't armed but picked up other guy intervening to chase after Kelley. Except for the confederate flag, Langerdorff actually seems like a decent fella.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Evidence shows Kelley shot himself.
That's certainly going to deflate a lot of biases. good luck!
7962
(11,841 posts)As did one in Daily Mail.
7962
(11,841 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,856 posts)msongs
(67,502 posts)protect them. like maybe stay away from that god
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Yours seems a most irrational conclusion, lacking any evidence to support it.
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc is in fact, a logical fallacy in case you were unaware. It's delicious and certainly validates biases, but yet still a fallacy. Good luck!
aggiesal
(8,963 posts)Thou shall not kill
is lost on the state attorney general.
Oh the irony.
Dustlawyer
(10,499 posts)Honesty; empathy; common sense; what Christianity is all about; equality; and justice, to name a few.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Next will be kindergartners with bumpstock AR-15's strapped to their back in school
The NRA will be happy as hell to sell your school kids the latest mass killing assault weapon, don't doubt that!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,501 posts)one person shot by evil gunman and ten people shot in parishioner crossfire.
Historic NY
(37,462 posts)Meanwhile the AG should be asking how a guy with a dishonorable discharge got car load of guns?
7962
(11,841 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)So one of those infractions IS a disqualifier.
Like to see who dropped the ball on this
raccoon
(31,135 posts)That's rich, you got to arm yourself to go to church.
Skittles
(153,310 posts)everyone armed, everyone paranoid
TexasTowelie
(112,699 posts)skin color must be taken into account.
Skittles
(153,310 posts)Skittles
(153,310 posts)no one is safe from them
Vinca
(50,334 posts)Arm the grocery store clerks! Arm the UPS guy! Arm the children on the playground! Arm the hotel maids! Arm the . . .
Maeve
(42,312 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)I mean, if you're going to sacrifice your whole way of life to appease the murder lobbyists, what difference how you go about it ? You're going to give up everything, including your life, eventually, because nothing will ever be enough to appease their insatiable appetite for GUNZ.
Gothmog
(145,965 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,699 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,256 posts)WERE carrying concealed weapons. They said the shooter fired his weapon for around 15 seconds. Most people's brains are still thinking "What's happening?" and "GET DOWN!" in that period of time. With 27 fatalities and over 20 injured, it sounds like he hit just about everyone in the church.
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)A tongue twister they want to teach the kiddos.
Who would Jesus shoot, anyway?
ChicagoRonin
(630 posts)I just won't go to that state
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)Given the size, population, numbers of people with little access to mental health care, access to guns, etc, I'm surprised a scene much like this didn't happen years ago.