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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:10 PM Nov 2017

Senate Dems introduce bill to ban assault weapons, bump stocks

Source: The Hill




BY JORDAIN CARNEY - 11/08/17 11:47 AM EST

Senate Democrats are moving to ban assault weapons and a device that allows semi-automatic weapons to simulate automatic fire in the wake of mass shootings in Las Vegas and Texas.

Roughly two dozen Democrats, led by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), introduced legislation on Wednesday that would ban assault weapons, high-capacity ammunition magazines and bump stocks, a device that can be used to make semi-automatic rifles fire faster.

"We’re introducing an updated Assault Weapons Ban for one reason: so that after every mass shooting with a military-style assault weapon, the American people will know that a tool to reduce these massacres is sitting in the Senate, ready for debate and a vote," Feinstein said in a statement.

Congress previously enacted an assault weapons ban in 1994, but that legislation expired in 2004.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/359381-senate-dems-introduce-bill-to-ban-assault-weapons-bump-stocks

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IronLionZion

(45,653 posts)
1. Feinstein introduced the original law back in 1994 too
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:18 PM
Nov 2017

and we had much fewer mass shootings with these types of weapons during the 10 years it was in effect

I remember people promising us in 2004 that nothing bad is going to happen by not renewing the ban, that it was just cosmetic stuff to make people feel cool. I naively believed it at the time, but that's obviously been proven wrong as these shootings have gotten worse


BumRushDaShow

(130,013 posts)
3. And as a note to that
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:27 PM
Nov 2017

It took 13 years after Raygun & Brady were shot to even get something like that through and it should have never had a sunset provision.

IronLionZion

(45,653 posts)
8. There was a school shooting with a semi-automatic AK-47 in Stockton, CA 1989
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:41 PM
Nov 2017

Luby's Texas shooting in 1991, and another shooting in San Francisco in 1993. Plus a general fear of crime from drugs and gangs led to public support for the law. It was also part of a much larger crime bill.

They cited a 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll that found 77 percent of Americans supported a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of such weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. You know the rifle used at Sandy Hook? It was legal during the AWB.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017

People were not kidding when they told you it was about cosmetics.

IronLionZion

(45,653 posts)
15. If we have knowledgeable people on our side
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:55 PM
Nov 2017

why not write more effective laws? The NRA is going to obstruct it anyway so why not do it right?

NickB79

(19,299 posts)
13. We had less shootings because there weren't as many AR's around
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:05 PM
Nov 2017

Before the 1990's, only a few companies made assault rifles in the US, imported AK's were poorly made, and they were all expensive. There just weren't many in circulation.

Then the AWB became law, and suddenly you were a badass if you owned one. The appeal of owning something the government didn't want you to have was incredibly powerful. Gun makers quickly removed the banned features while retaining the gun's functionality, rode their newfound popularity, and sold millions of them. The AWB did nothing to stop their sale; we sold tons of AR's at the sporting goods store I worked in. The only thing that did get a LITTLE bit harder to find we're high-capacity magazines, but used ones were for sale at every gun show.

J_William_Ryan

(1,761 posts)
2. We need to be focusing on winning more elections,
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

not alienating swing voters with legislation that has no chance of passing or realizing the desired goal.

Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
6. I'm so sick of the gun obsession in this country. It's like a disease, and I don't see it
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:33 PM
Nov 2017

changing. Too ingrained in our culture now.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. Should focus on the bump stocks & magazine size first.
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:37 PM
Nov 2017

"assault weapons" is such a nonsensical term.

NickB79

(19,299 posts)
11. How do they define assault weapons this time around?
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:56 PM
Nov 2017

Because if it's the same as the 1994 definition, it will do jack shit to take even one rifle off gun shelves. Removing flash hiders and bayonet lugs doesn't stop a mass shooting.

The sporting goods store I worked in in 2000 sold a ton of AR-15s while the last AWB was in effect.

jmowreader

(50,594 posts)
16. It needs to be three bills
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 02:46 PM
Nov 2017

I think we could get the bump stock ban easily. While we’re at it, let’s ban exploding targets; there are way too many “100 pounds of Tannerite” videos on YouTube. No bump stock, no Stephen Paddock.

A high-capacity magazine ban is doable if we on the Left can accept 30 rounds is the standard magazine for any AR, AK or any other black gun. Get rid of drum magazines and online ammo sales, and there’s a good chance you have no James Eagan Holmes.

But you’re going to have to do much better than last time to have a real AWB...as pointed out upthread, relying on gun cosmetics is not good when you can just put a different stock on.

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