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brooklynite

(95,060 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:30 PM Nov 2017

53 pastors sign letter of support for Roy Moore

Source: Birmingham News

More than 50 Alabama pastors have signed a letter supporting Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore in the wake of sexual misconduct allegations.

Moore's wife Kayla posted the letter to her Facebook page Sunday after days of controversy surrounding her husband and allegations he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old in 1979 when he was 32-years-old. Three other women said Moore pursued them as teenagers.

Moore denies the charges.

In their letter, the pastors said Moore was an "immovable rock in the culture wars," and has met attacks with a "rare unconquerable resolve."

Read more: http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/53_pastors_sign_letter_of_supp.html#incart_river_home

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53 pastors sign letter of support for Roy Moore (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2017 OP
there's that weird thing about religion - it often supports the opposite of what is preached... NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #1
Generally when the accused is a Republican. eom Frustratedlady Nov 2017 #4
yup NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #10
especially when it Baptist azureblue Nov 2017 #31
Totally correct on the southern Baptist cult TEB Nov 2017 #57
Perhaps they have the same problem looming over their heads. olegramps Nov 2017 #48
Told ya. Nothing on earth disqualifies him if his opponent is a liberal or a democrat. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #2
Another DUer put it this way: They hate democrats more than they love their children. CrispyQ Nov 2017 #19
That is a cult, not a religion. CentralMass Nov 2017 #3
Every religion is a cult LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #20
CentralMass may have referred to the Republican party in Alabama? Perseus Nov 2017 #41
My bad...I guess I read what I wanted to read...CentralMass did Perseus Nov 2017 #43
Personal experience does not change definition, nor does bias... LanternWaste Nov 2017 #44
Marks summed it very nicely: Religion is the opiate of the masses. olegramps Nov 2017 #49
hypocritical christians bdtrppr6 Nov 2017 #5
I would check to see who they dated Skittles Nov 2017 #6
Start investigating the Pastors. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #7
And the sheeple will Hallelujah and praise the lord as they agree. appleannie1943 Nov 2017 #8
Yow, keep your daughters out of those churches ! nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2017 #9
Good thing no churches got accused of doing that underpants Nov 2017 #11
Never, ever trust a fundamentalist christian. TBA Nov 2017 #12
Too bad for them. Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #13
just shows how degenerate Christianity has become vlyons Nov 2017 #14
Make that DownriverDem Nov 2017 #17
NO, it is the POWER to make everyone else follow their beliefs Stargazer99 Nov 2017 #27
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #36
Reminds me of a song hueymahl Nov 2017 #15
I bet they are all DownriverDem Nov 2017 #16
Dozens of fake christians Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #18
perhaps these pastors could post pictures of their daughters on line dembotoz Nov 2017 #21
That's a good idea FakeNoose Nov 2017 #67
The churches for these faux religion leaders need to start pay taxes Gothmog Nov 2017 #22
Their tax-exempt status should be safe under the new tax bill JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2017 #58
these pastors are falling for the exact worldly temptation that their bible warns them against! paulkienitz Nov 2017 #23
Matthew 7:15 atreides1 Nov 2017 #24
absolutely but bluestarone Nov 2017 #60
Some Alabama ministers: onenote Nov 2017 #25
Some religions believe in ... left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #26
OUCH! keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #37
Kind of surprised, 53??? awesomerwb1 Nov 2017 #28
Are those some of the same hypocrites who laid hands on Trump in Fla Dem Nov 2017 #29
I wonder how freaked out trump was by this? Ilsa Nov 2017 #30
Based on the picture......... MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #32
So 53 pastors now approve of child molestation. Initech Nov 2017 #33
Since they've hitched their horses to this man, all 53 of them should be investigated. DRoseDARs Nov 2017 #61
Yup! I'm sure we'd find more than a few skeletons in their closet! Initech Nov 2017 #62
LOL nt Flaleftist Nov 2017 #34
I am glad they are showing their truth get the red out Nov 2017 #35
So.. Pastors using their position in a church to endorse a candidate? Amimnoch Nov 2017 #38
Sounds good to me. The only good news is that Ilsa Nov 2017 #46
+1. Couldn't be more blatant. meadowlander Nov 2017 #55
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #39
Can We Just toss Alabama Out of the USA? Ccarmona Nov 2017 #40
Build a wall around it. nt Ilsa Nov 2017 #47
Roy Moore signed a yearbook 40 years ago before he tried raping a woman snooper2 Nov 2017 #42
how old is his wife? TalenaGor Nov 2017 #45
Get their names! Grins Nov 2017 #50
They don't believe in the higher being that I believe in. Mine doesn't support pedophiles iluvtennis Nov 2017 #51
White? enid602 Nov 2017 #52
Get their names! Grins Nov 2017 #53
FAKE CHRISTIANS! N/T Penn Voter Nov 2017 #54
When are we going to face the fact stopbush Nov 2017 #56
The physicist Steven Weinberg said... camelfan Nov 2017 #59
Jesus wept. TomSlick Nov 2017 #63
Assholes all of them. Owl Nov 2017 #64
Fucking DISGUSTING BigDemVoter Nov 2017 #65
This is sickening - so glad I don't live in Alabama FakeNoose Nov 2017 #66
They signed this BEFORE allegations made public mainer Nov 2017 #68
Hypocrites! there's a special circle of Hell served for them. Nitram Nov 2017 #69
Birds of a feather.... kacekwl Nov 2017 #70

azureblue

(2,158 posts)
31. especially when it Baptist
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:30 PM
Nov 2017

I will bet that every one of these preachers is a Southern baptist - one of the most hypocritical religious cults I have ever been in contact with.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,153 posts)
2. Told ya. Nothing on earth disqualifies him if his opponent is a liberal or a democrat.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:33 PM
Nov 2017

Liberals or democrats dont hate black people and Muslims. (generally speaking)

Does anybody need to know more? That is it.

CrispyQ

(36,574 posts)
19. Another DUer put it this way: They hate democrats more than they love their children.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:56 PM
Nov 2017

How terribly sad.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
20. Every religion is a cult
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:57 PM
Nov 2017

I grew up in a fundie Christian household. All my 5 siblings to this day are practicing evangelicals who all vote right wing, save one brother. I was fully ensconced in that cult growing up. Wasn't allowed to go to parties, and had few 'worldly' friends. I rebelled from that restrictive lifesyle in my teens. As I have grown older, my interpretation of organized religion has changed even more. I used to think it was just a harmless fantasy world that many use to keep them focused on having morals and its a pat on the back once a week to assure them that they are 'one of the good ones' and have God in their corner.

But now I see all religions, including Chrisianity, as dangerous mild altering poison. It creates these perfectly primed people, and voters, to be swayed easily by any con man who pays lip service to them. A politician can be as despicable as the Devil himself, as long as he says Jesus is guiding him and will take his religion with him into government. Then he can rob them blind for as long as he wants to as long as he comes down to his constituency once in a while to preach to them what they want to hear.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
41. CentralMass may have referred to the Republican party in Alabama?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:02 PM
Nov 2017

That is what I got from his post anyway...could be that is what I was thinking before I read his comment, and I believe it to be true, only cult people turn the other way when the news given opposes their beliefs.

Unreal...

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
43. My bad...I guess I read what I wanted to read...CentralMass did
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:05 PM
Nov 2017

make the reference to the religion...

Here is another cult:
(The Hill) Nearly 40 percent of Alabama evangelicals say in a new poll that they are more likely to vote for GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore after allegations of sexual misconduct arose against him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Personal experience does not change definition, nor does bias...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:11 PM
Nov 2017

Religion has a distinct and different definition than does cult. Personal experience does not change definition, nor does bias, nor does pounding a round nail into a square hole... regardless of what we allege to see.

But I get it... bumper sticker proclamations fit well on a t-shirt, fit even better into a 30-second attention span, and requires little insight and even less thought.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
7. Start investigating the Pastors.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:35 PM
Nov 2017

Probably most are innocent, but there are undoubtedly some that are equally enthusiastic about pursuing young, impressionable victims.

underpants

(183,057 posts)
11. Good thing no churches got accused of doing that
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:37 PM
Nov 2017

Otherwise it would look really strange for them to be on their high horse. Actually it's pretty strange any way you look at it.

TBA

(825 posts)
12. Never, ever trust a fundamentalist christian.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:39 PM
Nov 2017

They are insane, morally bankrupt, and will justify anything and everything shitty.

DownriverDem

(6,240 posts)
17. Make that
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:53 PM
Nov 2017

repub Christians. repub Christians are not true Christians. The do not follow the Prince of Peace. They do not follow the Sermon on the Mount. They worship at the altar of hate, greed and money.

Stargazer99

(2,600 posts)
27. NO, it is the POWER to make everyone else follow their beliefs
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:21 PM
Nov 2017

It is their wet dream to have a national/corporate religion and the power that goes with that and they will sell their soul to attain that

DownriverDem

(6,240 posts)
16. I bet they are all
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:50 PM
Nov 2017

southern! This only confirms to me what hypocrites repub Christians truly are. We should have let the south leave in the 1860s.

dembotoz

(16,866 posts)
21. perhaps these pastors could post pictures of their daughters on line
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

whats the old du saying we don't see anymore?

this thread is useless without pictures

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
67. That's a good idea
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:02 PM
Nov 2017

Post the preachers' daughters photos along with address and phone number, and don't forget email address.
Then let's see how they feel about it.

/ /

Gothmog

(146,012 posts)
22. The churches for these faux religion leaders need to start pay taxes
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

The IRS needs to investigate and take away the tax exempt status of each of these churches

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
23. these pastors are falling for the exact worldly temptation that their bible warns them against!
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:12 PM
Nov 2017

They've traded piety for political power in what may be quite literally a deal with the devil.

atreides1

(16,123 posts)
24. Matthew 7:15
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:13 PM
Nov 2017

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."

awesomerwb1

(4,270 posts)
28. Kind of surprised, 53???
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:21 PM
Nov 2017

But then when I think about it, I'm not.

Repulsive, despicable pieces of garbage.

Fla Dem

(23,898 posts)
29. Are those some of the same hypocrites who laid hands on Trump in
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:22 PM
Nov 2017

the Oval Office, the money changers Jesus would have thrown out of the temple?

"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."


Or the false prophets Matthew 7:15 speaks about?
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."





MyOwnPeace

(16,955 posts)
32. Based on the picture.........
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:33 PM
Nov 2017

(and that smile) I'm guessing he was hoping one of the women in the picture was gonna' "lay hands" on him!

Initech

(100,152 posts)
33. So 53 pastors now approve of child molestation.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:44 PM
Nov 2017

You know what? Go fuck yourself and shove your stupid god damn fucking culture war up your god damn fat fucking ass! Do the right god damn thing for once!

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
61. Since they've hitched their horses to this man, all 53 of them should be investigated.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:58 PM
Nov 2017

I'm sure more than one of them has molested children...

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
35. I am glad they are showing their truth
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:50 PM
Nov 2017

Whatever shit they are selling is seriously foul. Bunch of hateful authoritarians, supporting a child molester for power. White, straight, male supremacy where everyone else just exists for their use and amusement. That's their "religion".

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
38. So.. Pastors using their position in a church to endorse a candidate?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:56 PM
Nov 2017

Sounds to me like there's 53 pastors whose churches need to lose tax exempt status.

Ilsa

(61,720 posts)
46. Sounds good to me. The only good news is that
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:59 PM
Nov 2017

it tends to drive away savvy young people from religion.

keithbvadu2

(37,061 posts)
39. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:57 PM
Nov 2017

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
40. Can We Just toss Alabama Out of the USA?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:59 PM
Nov 2017

The State has nothing to offer other than division and racism.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
42. Roy Moore signed a yearbook 40 years ago before he tried raping a woman
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:02 PM
Nov 2017

Let's see how fast these losers change their tunes

Grins

(7,274 posts)
53. Get their names!
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:52 PM
Nov 2017

For future reference.

Go to the link and read the full letter. It's worse than described above. The ducking and weaving these "pastors" do is better than the best of the NBA.

"...he was ousted as Chief Justice in 2003."

And why was that, pastors...? Tossed from the court by his fellow justices for ignoring a federal court order, perhaps?

"As a result, he continued his life pursuit by starting the Foundation for Moral Law..."

That would be the same Foundation for Moral Law where, after saying he would not take any compensation, he absconded with more than $1 million between 2007 & 2012, compensation that far surpassed what the group disclosed in its public tax filings, that he concealed from the IRS, and when he stepped down his wife got his $195,000 annual compensation for the next three years...? That Foundation for Moral Law...? Pastors?

"After being re-elected again to Chief Justice in 2012,"

And why was he "RE-elected", Pastors...? And after he was re-elected, why was he ousted again, Pastors...?

"...dishonesty, fear of man, and immorality are an affront to our convictions..."

Immorality, you say. A man who was impeached twice for ignoring the law, who at least four women who do not know one another and said he was a pervert with a fifth saying he tried to rape her, who trolled malls, and high school football games for teenage girls, who lied about his stealing money - from a charity? Pastors...? Pastors...?

Convictions, my keister.





stopbush

(24,401 posts)
56. When are we going to face the fact
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 06:50 PM
Nov 2017

that the problem we see with these kind of responses has nothing to do with conservatism, Republicanism or the South, but has everthing to do with the fact that the magical thinking espoused by Christianity in specific - and religion in general - is THE problem?

camelfan

(130 posts)
59. The physicist Steven Weinberg said...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 07:25 PM
Nov 2017

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Somewhat amended by Christopher Hitchens as...

"In the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion."

mainer

(12,037 posts)
68. They signed this BEFORE allegations made public
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:03 PM
Nov 2017

And some are now protesting that they didn’t give permission for their names to be used this way.

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