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Judi Lynn

(160,684 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:27 AM Nov 2017

Police investigate whether Republican was victim of revenge porn after nude selfie emerges online

Source: Independent


Mr Barton is one of the most senior members of the House of Representatives
Alexandra Wilts El Paso, Texas 13 mins ago



The release of a nude photo of Republican congressman Joe Barton could be investigated by police after the politician raised the possibility that he was a victim of “revenge porn”.

The image was posted to an anonymous Twitter account quickly began circulating online.

Mr Barton said the United States Capitol Police - the federal law enforcement agency charged with protecting the United States Congress - had "reached out to me and offered to launch an investigation and I have accepted".

The representative from Texas added he could not comment further "because of the pending investigation".

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-barton-nude-selfie-revenge-porn-investigation-police-a8074961.html

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Police investigate whether Republican was victim of revenge porn after nude selfie emerges online (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2017 OP
Police Investigate Whether Meth Dealer Was Victim of Theft After Stash Stolen. nt greyl Nov 2017 #1
Wow, A Guy Voluntarily Sends a D*&k Pick to a Woman... TomCADem Nov 2017 #2
Cover up his harassment? jberryhill Nov 2017 #3
Hate to Break It to You... TomCADem Nov 2017 #22
I guess she shouldnt have gotten on the plane jberryhill Nov 2017 #23
Okay, feel free to explain why she welcomed the ... TomCADem Nov 2017 #42
they were having sex with each other JI7 Nov 2017 #4
So I would be beyond reproach if I shared completely unsolicited photos I received from women? Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #6
This is part of the New Republican playbook. ''Revenge Porn" HA! YOHABLO Nov 2017 #55
I must say that I don't understand sending PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #5
I think that is the case in most social media these days MiniMe Nov 2017 #7
The Jerry Springer-fication of America.... magicarpet Nov 2017 #21
One should have common sense in thses matters Kaleva Nov 2017 #10
And as a long time ago occurence BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #13
"the possibility that he was a victim of revenge porn." BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #8
My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 2017 #12
They were in a sexual relationship at the time NickB79 Nov 2017 #15
He was married by his own admission. LisaL Nov 2017 #17
Which is immoral, but not illegal NickB79 Nov 2017 #19
I don't agree with this recent law at the least. LisaL Nov 2017 #20
You dont agree with the law? jberryhill Nov 2017 #24
I take it you never heard of jury nullification? LisaL Nov 2017 #25
ROFL jberryhill Nov 2017 #29
Was there an expectation of privacy? TomCADem Nov 2017 #43
A coworker's son got arrested last year for sharing pics of his ex online NickB79 Nov 2017 #44
Need more facts... TomCADem Nov 2017 #45
Where you meet someone and if you have booty calls don't matter NickB79 Nov 2017 #47
Was She Also a Public Figure? TomCADem Nov 2017 #49
In his GOP world BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #26
There was a lot of cheering and unanimous praise here when California passed the revenge porn act. Calista241 Nov 2017 #38
Exactly! Some people dont know how to be consistent. DrToast Nov 2017 #39
See post #26. nt BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #41
Thank you NickB79 Nov 2017 #48
Thank you! tammywammy Nov 2017 #50
His wife filed for divorce back in 2014, so he is already divorced. LisaL Nov 2017 #51
He is a pig but the story is about who did this to the pig? Are we still buying this shit? pwb Nov 2017 #9
That's exactly what she says her motivation was. LisaL Nov 2017 #28
actually it is normal for them Skittles Nov 2017 #56
Dear Joe, you ignorant and physically repulsive creep: Vinca Nov 2017 #11
No matter.... paleotn Nov 2017 #14
Where is the pic of this Dick??????? Cryptoad Nov 2017 #16
On the internet, that's where its at. LisaL Nov 2017 #18
There's a thread on DU with it BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #27
Must not be that ,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #30
He didn't paint over it with blue, whoever posted the image did. LisaL Nov 2017 #32
Am thinking a tweeter BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #33
Can't wait to hear his ,,, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #34
As a related side note to your post BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #36
Don't go look irisblue Nov 2017 #35
Agree BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #37
I just came across the "blued-out" photo image on Facebook. Paladin Nov 2017 #53
His bad judgement sets him up for blackmail. And we know how that can play out. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #31
I see, someone else's fault. louis-t Nov 2017 #40
No surprise to me that the repulsive Barton is at the center of this unpleasantness. Paladin Nov 2017 #46
He so ugly Beakybird Nov 2017 #52
What a perversion of the law. There's a warm seat in Hell for this jerk.... marble falls Nov 2017 #54

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
2. Wow, A Guy Voluntarily Sends a D*&k Pick to a Woman...
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:38 AM
Nov 2017

...and he is victim of revenge porn? It seems like he sent pictures of his junk to a woman he met on Facebook, then became embarrassed that she was telling her Facebook friends about it, then decided to threaten her. Unless he can provide some texts that he was set up, and that she was asking for the pictures, it looks at best like he made a stupid move in sending naked pictures, then panicked. At worst, the pictures were unsolicited and lewd, the Barton decided to cover up his harassment with a threat. Even better, Joe Barton is claiming that the women disclosed the pictures because Barton ended the relationship with her.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/23/politics/joe-barton-image-revenge-porn/index.html

Wednesday evening, an unnamed woman came forward to The Washington Post, telling the newspaper that Barton sent her lewd photos, videos and messages when they had two sexual encounters over the course of five years.

In a 2015 phone call, Barton allegedly confronted the woman over her communications with other women, including her decision to share explicit materials he had sent, the Post reported.

The woman shared that secretly recorded phone call with the paper and, according to the Post, in that call, he warned her against using the explicit images he had sent her, in a way that would negatively affect his career -- vowing that he would go to the Capitol Hill police over her actions.

The woman told the Post she took that phone call as a threat, and she never had any intention to use the materials to retaliate against Barton.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Cover up his harassment?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:57 AM
Nov 2017

You mean that paying for her travel and having sex with her was harassment?

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
22. Hate to Break It to You...
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:39 AM
Nov 2017

...but just because you have sex with a woman does not mean you have the green light to send pictures of your junk to them. I know some guys think that, but a lot of sexual harassment is from a tryst gone bad.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. I guess she shouldnt have gotten on the plane
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:42 AM
Nov 2017

Perhaps you should familiarize your condescending self with the actual sequqence of events.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
42. Okay, feel free to explain why she welcomed the ...
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:32 PM
Nov 2017

...pictures. It is clear you see no problem with sending such pics, but I am curious as to the reasoning.

Sorry, if it seems normal to you, but I don’t.

I am sure Roy Moore thought it was okay to hit on kids, but does not mean it is.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
6. So I would be beyond reproach if I shared completely unsolicited photos I received from women?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 04:39 AM
Nov 2017

No, I am pretty sure the DU Eumenides would send me straight to the firing squad for that.

I think it is weird and stupid when anyone does this and I was decidedly unhappy about receiving lewd propositions on my work cell phone from women who were barely acquaintances, but I still think that material has to be treated with a certain discretion.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,930 posts)
5. I must say that I don't understand sending
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 04:05 AM
Nov 2017

pornographic pictures using the interwebs.

I'm rather old, and back in the day we used Polaroid photos for such things. Back in the day I did have two, maybe three such photos taken of me, but I had the original Polaroids, and at some point destroyed them. My only regret all these years later is that they'd show a much younger and vastly more attractive version of myself. Sigh.

But my point is, that we didn't put anything out there that could be readily copied or passed on. I honestly don't understand why people today don't get that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not offering a blanket condemnation of such things, just positing that those who put such pictures out there ought to be cognizant of how they might be passed on. A Polaroid couldn't be. It was a one-off, pure and simple. Of course, I suppose no one under the age of 40 even has a clue what a Polaroid might have been.

MiniMe

(21,724 posts)
7. I think that is the case in most social media these days
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 05:10 AM
Nov 2017

Call me an old fart, but I just don't get all the sharing that goes on in social media these days. I've seen family "fights" that nobody else should be a part of shared. It isn't just the pics, it is what is going on that should be personal and not other peoples business. And yes, I do know what a Polaroid is. I don't share any of that kind of stuff online, you never know who could be reading it.

magicarpet

(14,222 posts)
21. The Jerry Springer-fication of America....
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:34 AM
Nov 2017

Mixed in with - heavy on the conniving - blunt tell it like it is - Reality TV.

The acceptance of dumb-ed down thinking and lowest common denominator attitude is what brought us King Orange Shit-gibbon.

Stupidity, off the cuff commentary, and protracted flagrant lying is considered the new intelligent, the new honorable, and the new smart.

Kaleva

(36,406 posts)
10. One should have common sense in thses matters
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:44 AM
Nov 2017

While there is an expectation of privacy, the truth is that there are many not very nice people ought there. None of us should have to lock our doors but we do even though many of us never had our homes robbed. We do it because it has happened to many others and there is a chance it could happen to us.

Same with nude selfies and sex videos. Phones have been hacked and former sex partners have published sex videos. Don't engage in behavior that, while legal, you would be very embarrassed about if made public.

BumRushDaShow

(130,073 posts)
13. And as a long time ago occurence
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:39 AM
Nov 2017

33 years ago, a certain first AA "Miss America" lost her crown because of such. Fortunately for her, she went on to have a fantastic musical and theater career. However the scandal was horrible at the time.

BumRushDaShow

(130,073 posts)
8. "the possibility that he was a victim of revenge porn."
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 07:38 AM
Nov 2017

WTF? You send pornographic pics of yourself to someone and then when it goes public you call it "revenge"? I call it "victim of your own arrogance". Even some of the RW media is balking.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
15. They were in a sexual relationship at the time
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:50 AM
Nov 2017

Apparently the pics came after they'd been having sex for a while, and the woman found out she wasn't the only partner he had. In fact, he was separated at the time, she showed the pics to other women she suspected him of sleeping with, and off to the internet it went.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
19. Which is immoral, but not illegal
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:18 AM
Nov 2017

What is illegal is sharing photos of your sexual partner online after a breakup, which it appears his girlfriend did.

LisaL

(44,985 posts)
20. I don't agree with this recent law at the least.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:22 AM
Nov 2017

If somebody sends me their photos, why is the burden placed on me to keep it private? How about don't send to people what you wouldn't want for everybody to see on the internet?
And what the hell does the law mean by "disclosure?" You can't disclose the photos you got from someone? Even if that someone send them to you?
By sending the photos, didn't he disclose it first?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. ROFL
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:02 PM
Nov 2017

You're too much.

Yeah, get out there and crusade against a law that primarily protects women.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
43. Was there an expectation of privacy?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:37 PM
Nov 2017

He was playing the field and sent nude selfies to one of several women he was sleeping around with. This seems more of a reflection on him, then her.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
44. A coworker's son got arrested last year for sharing pics of his ex online
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:49 PM
Nov 2017

He put her topless pics in a Craigslist personals ad.

He was young and stupid, so the judge gave him 1 year probation and a restraining order.

Should he have received a lighter sentence for what he did?

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
45. Need more facts...
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:59 PM
Nov 2017

... if they met on Facebook, just had bootycalls, she was sleeping around with several other guys AND he showed the unsolicited pic that the woman sent to him with one of the other guy, then I don’t see how she had a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Now, if the son took a pic of his ex, then shared it without her knowledge and consent, then that is different. You describe the latter, not the former.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
47. Where you meet someone and if you have booty calls don't matter
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:15 PM
Nov 2017

The current revenge porn laws don't exempt you if you met online, or if it was just casual sex, or if you have multiple partners, and they are right to do so.

What you're asking for are revenge porn laws so neutered they are worthless to the vast majority of people (mostly women) they are meant to protect.

But to answer your question, she sent him the pics, then they broke up a few months later because he became a controlling asshole.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
49. Was She Also a Public Figure?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:19 PM
Nov 2017

Just wondering, since you seem to be defending Barton.

My take is that the first amendment should protect publication of Barton’s pics and if the revenge porn laws prohibit such publication, then it is a disservice to his constituents that they do not know how stupid and hypocritical their elected is.

BumRushDaShow

(130,073 posts)
26. In his GOP world
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:54 AM
Nov 2017

he was an adulterer and apparently a serial one at that. Whether we agree with that or not as none of anyone's business (my view), in GOP RW loon faux Xtian, "Values Voters Summit" world, that is a sin in and of itself, and their RW media blowhards had quite a bit to say about Bill Clinton among others in that regard, but were mum regarding Gingrich & McCain.

It's one of those ignoring "the log in thine eye" kinds of things.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
38. There was a lot of cheering and unanimous praise here when California passed the revenge porn act.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

34 states in the US have passed such laws, any many progressive states in Europe have done so.

Because a douchebag Repub got outed and had his nude pics shared does not make these laws a bad thing. The person who shared the the pics is going to have to answer for them, and that's a good thing.

I hope Barton's wife sues for divorce, his life comes crashing down, and a Dem gets elected in his district. But that doesn't change the fact that his partner broke the law by releasing pics.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
39. Exactly! Some people dont know how to be consistent.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

Just because it’s a Republican, it doesn’t mean they can’t be a victim of revenge porn.

NickB79

(19,301 posts)
48. Thank you
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:17 PM
Nov 2017

I'm flabbergasted that so many here are willing to shit all over a good law because they can't bear the fact it could help this man.

LisaL

(44,985 posts)
51. His wife filed for divorce back in 2014, so he is already divorced.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:33 PM
Nov 2017

Dem isn't going to get elected in his district because the district is very red.
Law preventing exposure of politicians behaving badly is not a good law in my book.

pwb

(11,318 posts)
9. He is a pig but the story is about who did this to the pig? Are we still buying this shit?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:27 AM
Nov 2017

This woman is exposing, idiot two faced Republicans, and who they really are.
Fake should be our word, that is why the pukes use it, so when we use it against truth it seems to have less meaning.
They do this all the time. They blame us for shit they do? And it sadly still works for them.
Please stop believing this reverse crap they and their bought for media use? Its very old now.
They use it for guns, religion, taxes, the military, health care, the deficit, the debt, everything. Please lets all of us finally wake up to their deceit and stop being played. They even have many believing we are at war against a word, Terror. How do you end a war against a word? That is what they want endless war and endless defense spending. We have to stop it, now.

LisaL

(44,985 posts)
28. That's exactly what she says her motivation was.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:01 PM
Nov 2017

"“It’s not normal for a member of Congress who runs on a GOP platform of family values and conservatism to be scouring the Internet looking for a new sexual liaison,” she said, explaining her motive for coming forward."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congressman-told-woman-he-would-report-her-to-capitol-police-if-she-exposed-his-secret-sex-life/2017/11/22/e3345862-cf10-11e7-a1a3-0d1e45a6de3d_story.html?utm_term=.27240740f4f8

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
11. Dear Joe, you ignorant and physically repulsive creep:
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:09 AM
Nov 2017

It doesn't matter whether the lady is arrested, convicted and punished. Your dick pick will be on the Internet forever and ever and ever. A hundred years from now people tracing their roots will be treated to Joe's dick. It's a shame intelligent people aren't elected to Congress.

LisaL

(44,985 posts)
32. He didn't paint over it with blue, whoever posted the image did.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:11 PM
Nov 2017

If it were painted with blue from the start, it would be never considered revenge porn because the "private part" isn't showing.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
34. Can't wait to hear his ,,,
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:42 PM
Nov 2017

testimony under oath in public as to why he thought his penis was so spectacular that he needed to recorded it for posterity !

BumRushDaShow

(130,073 posts)
36. As a related side note to your post
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:01 PM
Nov 2017

I took a Greek Civ class in college and the professor (who was Greek origin) had specialized in documenting ancient architecture, sculptures and art and one of the things he got a kick out of was showing his many photos of "phallus monuments" that were at one time prolific at the entrances of homes during a certain era in ancient Greece. And we're not talking about "uncovered" statues of men, we are talking literal penises. He would get a kick out of throwing up a slide and watching the reactions in the class.

I just looked him up and he just retired this year after 39 years.

Paladin

(28,290 posts)
46. No surprise to me that the repulsive Barton is at the center of this unpleasantness.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:06 PM
Nov 2017

Yet another fat, right-wing white guy who feels compelled to spread nude images of himself. It figures that shit-for-brains Joe Barton is one of them. Hope this leads to his retirement.

marble falls

(57,553 posts)
54. What a perversion of the law. There's a warm seat in Hell for this jerk....
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

just another reason I hate to admit I live in Texas.

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