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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:27 PM Nov 2017

UPDATED - While Honoring Native American Code Talkers, Trump Attacks 'Pocahontas'

Source: Talking Points Memo


By MATT SHUHAM Published NOVEMBER 27, 2017 3:06 PM

At an event honoring Native American code talkers who used the Navajo language as a form of coded message during World War II, President Donald Trump repeated a frequent attack against Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

“You were here long before any of us were here,” Trump said, “although we have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her ‘Pocahontas.’”

“But you know what, I like you,” Trump continued to the Native American veterans standing beside him.

The attack is based on Warren’s former claim that, according to “family stories,” she had Native American heritage. She had no proof for the claim, which then-Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) used to attack Warren when she ran against him in 2012. Trump revived the attack in 2016, when Warren campaigned for Hillary Clinton.

Warren responded in an interview with MSNBC’s Ali Velshi shortly afterward. “This was supposed to be an event to honor heroes, people who put it all on the line for our country, and people who, because of their incredible, work saved the lives of countless Americans and our allies,” she said. “It is deeply unfortunate that the President of the United States cannot even make it through a ceremony honoring these heroes without having to throw out a racial slur.”

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-pocahontas-warren-attack



UPDATE:

Elizabeth Warren slams Trump for blurting out ‘racial slur’ during Native American event

ERIC W. DOLAN
27 NOV 2017 AT 15:26 ET

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) on Monday blasted President Donald Trump for referring to her as “Pocahontas” during a White House event to honor Native Americans.

“It is deeply unfortunate that the President of the United States cannot even make it through a ceremony honoring these heroes without throwing out a racial slur,” the senator said on MSNBC.




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https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/elizabeth-warren-slams-trump-for-blurting-out-racial-slur-during-native-american-event/
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UPDATED - While Honoring Native American Code Talkers, Trump Attacks 'Pocahontas' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
He is such a bastard. (eom) StevieM Nov 2017 #1
They don't call her Pocahontas. forgotmylogin Nov 2017 #26
And hate radio jock Howie Carr of Boston Herald Submariner Nov 2017 #39
Howie Carr must be with one of those few "NON-FAKE" news media outlets. C Moon Nov 2017 #50
Moronic ignorant sob TEB Nov 2017 #2
Repulsive blob of filth. nancy1942 Nov 2017 #3
Trump: "They call her Pocahontas. --who else uses that racial slur other than @POTUS???? riversedge Nov 2017 #4
Other right-wingers? sakabatou Nov 2017 #8
Come to think of it. I have also. But I was thinking politicians--I do not know of other Repugs riversedge Nov 2017 #12
It is really disgusting to see those good brave men forced to stand there and listen to him. Grrrrrr Demoiselle Nov 2017 #5
Nobody ever has to stand and listen unchecked slurs. Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #15
My feelings exactly. old guy Nov 2017 #51
Who is forcing them? oberliner Nov 2017 #19
The circumstances required their presence to attend a ceremony honoring THEM, not the Hump. Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #25
Sure does. Nice post. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #70
No they don't oberliner Nov 2017 #71
" You were here before any of us, and so was she" SummerSnow Nov 2017 #6
he is sick. barbtries Nov 2017 #7
There was silence in the room. Per pool........... riversedge Nov 2017 #9
What a nasty m-fer. It's just one thing after another - he seems to hate everyone. George II Nov 2017 #10
Starring Ed Ames, as Donald Trump: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #11
Without even clicking on your post I knew you were talking about that iconic video..... George II Nov 2017 #24
When does this stuff all stop? An 8th grader would have been expelled for this kind of shit Botany Nov 2017 #13
There is something very wrong with this man. Joe Nation Nov 2017 #14
Yes! Botany Nov 2017 #17
well it can yet happen. drray23 Nov 2017 #57
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump turbinetree Nov 2017 #16
Spare the horse .. DemoTex Nov 2017 #20
ARRRGGGHHHH mindfulNJ Nov 2017 #18
Even better (or worse): the event is being held in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #21
Unbelievable. If someone chose that spot knowing any US history, that choice is beyond evil. Thanks. Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #29
I wonder how the code talkers say TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #22
I bet they may have done just that. Ilsa Nov 2017 #42
I wish they had TheCowsCameHome Nov 2017 #47
Ch'iidii! Diigis da'alzhin! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #66
trump isn't a man. He's a disease. (nt) Paladin Nov 2017 #23
Saying "uncle tom" MFM008 Nov 2017 #27
Warren clearly scares him - bigly. When scared, he attacks. suffragette Nov 2017 #28
He is undoubtedly terrified by ALL intelligent, sane, well-balanced people. He is a pestilence. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #30
Most apt description of him yet - a pestilence. suffragette Nov 2017 #31
Problem with this headline, and they are all using it, is slur or no slur he was NOT honoring them Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #32
i hate trump's guts. trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #33
He can't have a simple ceremony without bringing himself into it. NEVER. 7962 Nov 2017 #34
He's insulted just about every other minority, sarge43 Nov 2017 #35
Aint no friend of Custer,,, Cryptoad Nov 2017 #36
Of all the crap 49jim Nov 2017 #37
He is a fucking disgusting sack of shit. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #38
OUTRAGE flt rsk Nov 2017 #40
This is a MAGNIFICENT response, rsk. Thank you so much for your eloquence, and for sharing Leghorn21 Nov 2017 #54
Thank you! Goddamm straight. Shaddox Nov 2017 #68
Trump Mocks Warrens Native American Heritage Claim, But Falsely Claimed His Family Was Swedish keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #41
His mother was Scottish. His father, German. I guess Ilsa Nov 2017 #43
Did not want to admit 'German' keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #44
I guess not full German, but yeah, Ilsa Nov 2017 #45
Somewhere back there we all have a king... and a horse thief. keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #48
All the research says the Trumps came from Kallstadt in the Rhineland, nowhere near Sweden! Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #62
background portrait mehrrh Nov 2017 #46
They probably put it there on purpose jmowreader Nov 2017 #56
Once again, the fat, bloated tone-deaf douchebag shows his true colors. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2017 #49
If his heart had any patriotism at all in it, Mc Mike Nov 2017 #52
Perfect head of the GOP. A narcissistic ignorant racist asshole Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #53
Thats like referring to widow Johnson with the N word while addressing the NAACP Roland99 Nov 2017 #55
exactly, and his base LOVES it nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #64
He is truly the biggest asshole on this planet. docgee Nov 2017 #58
I want to know sabbat hunter Nov 2017 #59
They're Marines Fritz Walter Nov 2017 #65
I know this has happened before but for some reason this angers me more than most of the offensive jimlup Nov 2017 #60
Me too DesertRat Nov 2017 #61
Never understood what they think they are even attacking her with LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #63
She's a strong woman, she "persisted".... Heartstrings Nov 2017 #67
No one mention's Drumf's Nazi heritage, I say we call him 'Hitler." joanbarnes Nov 2017 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author argyl Nov 2017 #72
Trump really is a sick puppy* townie Dec 2017 #73

Submariner

(12,515 posts)
39. And hate radio jock Howie Carr of Boston Herald
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
Nov 2017

who takes credit for starting the Pocahontas slur. Carr is just another privileged little draft dodger like his hero Trump.

C Moon

(12,226 posts)
50. Howie Carr must be with one of those few "NON-FAKE" news media outlets.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:40 PM
Nov 2017

I'm starting to believe Trump believes the lies he and others create.

TEB

(12,951 posts)
2. Moronic ignorant sob
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

Those men on that stage gave and did more for this country than #45 ever did.

riversedge

(70,445 posts)
12. Come to think of it. I have also. But I was thinking politicians--I do not know of other Repugs
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:37 PM
Nov 2017

who would do this. IMHO

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
15. Nobody ever has to stand and listen unchecked slurs.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:44 PM
Nov 2017

That none of these men stood up for themselves is demoralizing. Donald trump is not a scary man, he's a child. And nobody can speak up and say "please don't use racial slurs around me"?

and we wonder why the toddler runs amok.

old guy

(3,284 posts)
51. My feelings exactly.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

Those men were obligated to turn their backs on him and leave. The fact that they didn't is very disturbing.

Judi Lynn

(160,670 posts)
25. The circumstances required their presence to attend a ceremony honoring THEM, not the Hump.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:59 PM
Nov 2017

He was probably furious that no one had decided to make up a huuuuge award, only for him, instead.

Right-wing sociopathic hatred got the best of him, just as it does trolls.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
71. No they don't
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:42 AM
Nov 2017

They are not required to attend.

If you were in a similar situation, would you accept an invitation to the Trump White House to receive an honor?

riversedge

(70,445 posts)
9. There was silence in the room. Per pool...........
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:35 PM
Nov 2017

I imagine Trump did not get the silence.




Jim Acosta?Verified account @Acosta
46m46 minutes ago

Trump, at event with Navajo Code Talkers at WH, makes "Pocahontas" crack about Senator Warren. There was silence in the room. Per pool.


George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Without even clicking on your post I knew you were talking about that iconic video.....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:57 PM
Nov 2017

....that's got to be 60 years old and it's still hysterical.

Botany

(70,643 posts)
13. When does this stuff all stop? An 8th grader would have been expelled for this kind of shit
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:41 PM
Nov 2017

And a 2nd grader would have been sent to the office for talking like that.

He spoke like that in front of Native American heros who are all 85+?

Botany

(70,643 posts)
17. Yes!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:47 PM
Nov 2017

it was like he was telling a n****r joke in front of the Congressional Black Caucus.

He is deeply mentally ill.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
57. well it can yet happen.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:08 PM
Nov 2017

I would not put it past him if he does meet with the congressional black caucus or naacp , both of which ge refused to meet.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
16. The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:47 PM
Nov 2017

in real time------------------and he is a malignant, narcissistic psychopath----------it's all about him

Hey Trump FUCK YOU, and Fuck You and the horse you rode in on

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
18. ARRRGGGHHHH
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:48 PM
Nov 2017

It's absolutely disgusting that these brave and honorable heroes have to show deference to this piece of shit!!!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,740 posts)
21. Even better (or worse): the event is being held in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 04:50 PM
Nov 2017
Trump is holding this event honouring Native American code talkers, and insulting Warren as "Pocahontas," in front of a portrait of president Andrew Jackson, who signed the Indian Removal Act.


Ilsa

(61,712 posts)
42. I bet they may have done just that.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:12 PM
Nov 2017

Right there in front of him, use the Navajo code talk to rip into him.

I wish they had spit on on the AJ portrait.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,033 posts)
66. Ch'iidii! Diigis da'alzhin!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:47 PM
Nov 2017

But these real heroes would be too polite - even to this stupid a**hole- to utter these words.

Judi Lynn

(160,670 posts)
30. He is undoubtedly terrified by ALL intelligent, sane, well-balanced people. He is a pestilence. n/t
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:06 PM
Nov 2017

Eliot Rosewater

(31,137 posts)
32. Problem with this headline, and they are all using it, is slur or no slur he was NOT honoring them
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:14 PM
Nov 2017

he honors NOBODY.

Isnt he doing it in front of the statue of the asshole who did the removal act or something like that?

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
35. He's insulted just about every other minority,
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

I guess it was Native Americans' turn.

No decency, no empathy, no humanity.

49jim

(560 posts)
37. Of all the crap
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:37 PM
Nov 2017

he says....this pisses me off like nothing else....so mean and petty.....reflective of his personality

flt rsk

(92 posts)
40. OUTRAGE
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:09 PM
Nov 2017

Just saw the clip of the orange shit stain insulting the Marine Code Talkers. I have been trying to come up with a response that would not get me blocked. I served in the Marines. Code Talkers are part of the Corps legend. Because of their importance, the minimum age requirement for enlistment was waived. Most of them were teenagers: some as young as 14 years old. All of them were volunteers. Each one had a white Marine as a bodyguard. No Code Talker was ever captured. After the war they were denied their GI benefits because they lived on federal land (reservations). Each and every one of them has scraped better stuff off of their boots than the shit stain will ever hope to be.

Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)
54. This is a MAGNIFICENT response, rsk. Thank you so much for your eloquence, and for sharing
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:56 PM
Nov 2017

your knowledge of these men and their lives and circumstances. Denied GI benefits, ffs.

Outrage indeed, JFC!!!

Again, thank you.

Shaddox

(384 posts)
68. Thank you! Goddamm straight.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:42 PM
Nov 2017

There is so much wrong with this story that is denies belief - every damn point of outrageousness (and there are dozens) would be enough to end a career, and yet here we are.

Ilsa

(61,712 posts)
43. His mother was Scottish. His father, German. I guess
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:14 PM
Nov 2017

You could claim that those people descended from Scandinavians, but claiming Swedish ancestry is a stretch.

keithbvadu2

(37,044 posts)
48. Somewhere back there we all have a king... and a horse thief.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:24 PM
Nov 2017

Somewhere back there we all have a king... and a horse thief.

Denzil_DC

(7,288 posts)
62. All the research says the Trumps came from Kallstadt in the Rhineland, nowhere near Sweden!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:22 PM
Nov 2017
Kallstadt is an unassuming little place. Located in southwestern Germany’s wine country, this hamlet of twelve hundred souls counts among its biggest draws a pair of annual wine festivals and the fact that—as the local butcher proclaims—it is a “paradise” for pig stomach, a local delicacy. But growing up, the filmmaker Simone Wendel always knew that her home town was special. As she explains in the opening lines of “Kings of Kallstadt,” her documentary film, “Here the sun always shines, and the wine never runs out. But Kallstadt is not like other villages, because Donald Trump’s grandfather was born right here. In this house! Yes, exactly. The Donald Trump!”

Released in Germany in 2014, “Kings of Kallstadt”—which includes an interview conducted by the sensibly shod Wendel, Linzer torte in hand, with Donald Trump at his gleaming Trump Tower offices—was made before Trump’s Presidential bid. Unsurprisingly, both the film and Kallstadt itself are now getting a second look in a country where, a few weeks ago, the cover of Der Spiegel featured the Republican front-runner against a backdrop of an American flag and a raging fire. “Insanity,” the headline read.

Donald Trump’s public acknowledgement of what he refers to in the film as his “German blood”—“Good stuff,” he says, crediting it with his reliability, strength, and ability to arrive on time—is actually fairly recent. Until 1990, including in his 1987 best-seller, “The Art of the Deal,” Trump claimed to be Swedish, not German. This relatively transparent family fiction—Trump’s German grandmother lived across the street from the family until her death, in the sixties—was first propagated by Trump’s father, Fred, due to anti-German sentiment in the U.S.

But Donald Trump’s dilatory enthusiasm for his German heritage—in 1999, he was the grand marshal of the German-American Steuben Parade in New York—is something of a one-way street. “There’s not anyone in Germany talking about Trump being ‘one of ours,’ ” Sebastian Jobs, a history professor at the Free University in Berlin, said. “Here people were really excited about Obama. They look down on Trump.” Nonetheless, as Wendel’s film shows, tiny Kallstadt is teeming with Trump family members, from second- or third-degree cousins of the Presidential hopeful to relatives by marriage. “I’m from a village,” Wendel explained recently on a popular German television talk show. “Everyone is related to everyone else by marriage.” There have been Trumps in Kallstadt for three hundred years, Gwenda Blair, the author of “The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a Presidential Candidate,” noted. According to her research, Hanns Drumpf, an itinerant lawyer, moved to Kallstadt in 1608, and the spelling of his last name changed by the end of that century.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-ancestral-german-home-of-the-trumps


Not that there's anything wrong with that ... except Donny's lost track of his own mythology yet again.

mehrrh

(233 posts)
46. background portrait
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:19 PM
Nov 2017

No one thought to remove the Andrew Jackson portrait from behind the podium?
Does anyone in the White House know of the "trail of tears" -- are they all totally uneducated and insensitive?
I think they are.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
49. Once again, the fat, bloated tone-deaf douchebag shows his true colors.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:26 PM
Nov 2017

Our president is a straight up racist AND a Russian asset. How nice.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
65. They're Marines
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:31 PM
Nov 2017

Unlike the Mangled Apricot Hellbeast who is the (shudder!) CIC, they are disciplined.
Their restraint is to be admired.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
60. I know this has happened before but for some reason this angers me more than most of the offensive
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:21 PM
Nov 2017

shit the cheeto clown utters.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,180 posts)
63. Never understood what they think they are even attacking her with
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:24 PM
Nov 2017

Or that it is something for her to be ashamed of.

She believed that there was native American blood in her ancestral chain somewhere based on what she was told by other relatives, and mentioned it once. So....I suppose there is a technical flaw in that she didn't actually have the proof of this. But its something she grew up with believing. She may be wrong about it. I'm sure if someone proved this was not true she'd just accept it and move on. What if she said she thought there was Italilan, or Spanish, or Russian relatives in the Warren family tree but did not have definitive proof? I'm sure there are countles Americans, both Democrats and Republicans that may have some unsubstantiated rumors floating around the family unit about dear great aunt Agnes having a salacious affair with an Indian/Black/Latin lover.

Why is this such a giant faux pas anyways? That she might be purposely claiming a falsehood to get her in good with native Americans and those who sympathize with them? At any rate the Republicans using a racist slur to tease her about it seems far worse.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
67. She's a strong woman, she "persisted"....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:17 PM
Nov 2017

How dare she. She must be punished forever by one of trumps boorish brands he and his base admire lovingly.

I despise him and his entire posse.

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