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brooklynite

(94,974 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:53 PM Nov 2017

A woman approached The Post with dramatic and false tale about Roy Moore.

Source: Washington Post

A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false — tale about Roy Moore. She appears to be part of undercover sting operation.

A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama, impregnated her as a teenager appears to work with an organization that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its targets.

In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public.

The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an Internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.

But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html



Talk about "fake news"
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A woman approached The Post with dramatic and false tale about Roy Moore. (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2017 OP
How much did trump pay her? leftynyc Nov 2017 #1
Moore super PAC raised $181,000 last quarter. $150,000 of it was from one donor. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #35
The Post did good. alfredo Nov 2017 #2
Wow, brought to you by the geeeniuses at Project "Veritas." lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #3
I WISH! TrollBuster9090 Nov 2017 #14
roadkill lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #51
Project Veritas--why am I not surprised? Maeve Nov 2017 #4
If there is a hell, and there isnt, there is an entire section reserved for this piece of shit okeef Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #26
I guess O'Keefe figured he couldn't get away with it himself DFW Nov 2017 #5
I wonder if there's a way to charge his sorry butt in connection with this. mpcamb Nov 2017 #61
I'm sure O'Keefe has legal help that costs far beyond his means DFW Nov 2017 #62
Still, I'd like to see him frog-walked with hands in cuffs. mpcamb Nov 2017 #66
I'd treasure that image too DFW Nov 2017 #67
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #6
they will still publish it.... getagrip_already Nov 2017 #7
Doubt it SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #17
people are stupid... getagrip_already Nov 2017 #22
Yep Cosmocat Nov 2017 #49
Send her to Mitch McConnell keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #8
Now we can tie O'Keefe to Roy Moore's disastrous campaign jmowreader Nov 2017 #9
Oh, THAT's what this was about: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #10
I bet James OKeefe is behind it ..... marble falls Nov 2017 #11
Did the woman look anything like THIS? (With the addition of a wig, for example?) TrollBuster9090 Nov 2017 #12
Some additional tweets: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #13
OMG wryter2000 Nov 2017 #15
watch the video at the link, the woman is stupid as shit snooper2 Nov 2017 #53
That's what I hear wryter2000 Nov 2017 #56
Bannon Loge23 Nov 2017 #16
I also think BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #37
My money is on Bannon, but he never takes the credit for anything FakeNoose Nov 2017 #43
Agreed. n/t Beartracks Nov 2017 #46
Didn't it say somewhere in the Bible that lies and deception are Satan's favorite tools? world wide wally Nov 2017 #18
BUSTED! nt Ilsa Nov 2017 #20
That sounds so Russian. I wonder how involved Moore is with Russia. C Moon Nov 2017 #21
Bannon told Trump to not say anything for/against Moore FakeNoose Nov 2017 #44
Actual journalists - worth their pay. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #23
For those here demanding/suggesting Al Franken's resignation Mr. Ected Nov 2017 #24
Yup. The 2 anonymous accusers used HuffPo itsrobert Nov 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #29
Huh? I missed something. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #59
the conyers thing is dif because of the settelement & medical issues questionseverything Nov 2017 #60
Hear Here!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #58
Well, Well, major props to the post for finding these assholes. man it could of gone south quick.... Old Vet Nov 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #28
Jake Tapper's response DesertRat Nov 2017 #30
But Wait: There's More! Saviolo Nov 2017 #31
Amazing that Project Veritas would be so incredibly Hortensis Nov 2017 #39
This woman deserves to be outed Vogon_Glory Nov 2017 #32
Okeefe is the pimp for the republican party mdbl Nov 2017 #33
K & R L. Coyote Nov 2017 #34
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE! O'Keefe has a counter-scoop: Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #36
Given the Stakes, Dirty Tricks Are to Be Expected dlk Nov 2017 #38
kick this up OKNancy Nov 2017 #40
"Our cover is blown" says O'Keefe riversedge Nov 2017 #41
"Now our team in a dash to beat The Washington Post to the presses." Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #42
For an outfit with "veritas" in its name, they sure do have to fake a lot of shit. n/t Beartracks Nov 2017 #45
I thought I smelled... IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 2017 #47
You Can Smell That Punk 4 States Away! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author mdbl Nov 2017 #48
Retweeted by James O'Keefe: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #50
More of the same from O'Keefe. He's taken over from Karl Rove.......... Bengus81 Nov 2017 #52
Analysis: The 6 most puzzling aspects of this James O'Keefe-Project Veritas botched sting debacle mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2017 #54
Here's hoping that this means a probation violation rocktivity Nov 2017 #55
Conservative Christian Voters... homegirl Nov 2017 #57
Great job by the Post dalton99a Nov 2017 #64
Surprisingly The Wizard Nov 2017 #65

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
14. I WISH!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:18 PM
Nov 2017

Unfortunately, there are still lots of roadrunners out there who are naive enough to eat the free ACME birdseed whenever O'Keefe puts it out.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,137 posts)
26. If there is a hell, and there isnt, there is an entire section reserved for this piece of shit okeef
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:38 PM
Nov 2017

DFW

(54,506 posts)
5. I guess O'Keefe figured he couldn't get away with it himself
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:58 PM
Nov 2017

Not even in drag, so he hired a real live female. Unfortunately, she didn't appear to have enough time to learn her lines well enough. OOps.

mpcamb

(2,881 posts)
61. I wonder if there's a way to charge his sorry butt in connection with this.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

Did she receive cash?
I'd love to see O'Keefe implicated.

DFW

(54,506 posts)
62. I'm sure O'Keefe has legal help that costs far beyond his means
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 06:19 PM
Nov 2017

But not beyond the means of those who put him up to these tasks, protect him from prosecution, and finance any dirty little scheme he can dream up. These things take time to plan, money to execute, and he needs money to live on in the meantime. I don't think it comes from profits made by buying and selling used cars on eBay. There is probably a Murdoch/Rove/Bannon trust fund out there that finances projects like O'Keefe--with enough arm's length so that if any of it ever gets made public, the money source can say, "Who, me? Never heard of the guy."

getagrip_already

(14,970 posts)
7. they will still publish it....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
Nov 2017

and use out of context comments to show that the post was "coaching" the "victim".

fox will run it nonstop until the election. brietbart will wallow in it. trump will retweet it.

expect it. It doesn't matter that the post didn't do anything wrong. they will make it look like the post did......

SCantiGOP

(13,878 posts)
17. Doubt it
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:54 PM
Nov 2017

Normal media outlets are already covering the story. It just made Veritas look stupid. They won’t even admit they were behind it.
The Post comes out looking good.

getagrip_already

(14,970 posts)
22. people are stupid...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:16 PM
Nov 2017

They are running with it. It will work.

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Cosmocat

(14,588 posts)
49. Yep
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 08:15 AM
Nov 2017

In their deranged world their hapless "sting" efforts are proof of bias regardless if those being targeted outright call bullshit.

To them, the "need" to do it is absolute proof in and of itself.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,740 posts)
10. Oh, THAT's what this was about:
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:12 PM
Nov 2017
2016 tax filing for James O'Keefe's Project Veritas is now publicly available.

Retweeted by James O'Keefe: https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII

Panicked Reporters Stalk Project Veritas HQ As Rumors Swirl @JamesOKeefeIII Is Set To Expose Washington Post



The Washington Post sends a reporter to question me, but take a look. Who's interviewing who? Full:



Video reporter for @washingtonpost leaves after hearing about new #AmericanPravda investigation. Watch his reaction:



Hitting export on hidden camera footage into Washington Post shortly. Project Veritas vs Bezos 100mm monopoly. Fasten your seatbelts.



mahatmakanejeeves

(57,740 posts)
13. Some additional tweets:
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:16 PM
Nov 2017

Retweeted by Lachlan Markay: https://twitter.com/lachlan

A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false — tale about Roy Moore. She appears to be part of undercover sting operation.



Post reporters found inconsistencies in the woman's story and an Internet post that raised doubts about her motivations.

Today, reporters saw her walking into Project Veritas, an organization that targets journalists in an effort to embarrass them.



After seeing the woman entering Project Veritas, The Post made the unusual decision to report her previous off-the-record comments. http://wapo.st/2zvQBH5


wryter2000

(46,133 posts)
15. OMG
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

I hope this gets some coverage. It proves conclusively that The Post is researching its stories diligently and not doing a hatchet job.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
16. Bannon
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:45 PM
Nov 2017

This has Bannon's slimy paw prints all over it. How far have we fallen in the USA? An advisor (he still is) to the President of the United States is mounting a smear campaign against Democrats and the media.

BumRushDaShow

(129,995 posts)
19. I also think
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:02 PM
Nov 2017

Bannon is behind the showdown at the CFPB with Mulvaney vs English, where there were "competing memos" going out to the agency's staff from both of them. He is probably laughing his ass off at the chaos.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
43. My money is on Bannon, but he never takes the credit for anything
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:20 PM
Nov 2017

Bannon may pass the credit onto O'Keefe or somebody else. Bannon is a certified weasel.

BTW this is why he left the White House, and it wasn't because Trump wanted him out. Bannon left so he can pull undercover dirty tricks like this while he's out of the media spotlight on the White House.


C Moon

(12,226 posts)
21. That sounds so Russian. I wonder how involved Moore is with Russia.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

I find it strange that Trumpty Dumpty was so committed to standing with Moore.

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
44. Bannon told Trump to not say anything for/against Moore
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:24 PM
Nov 2017

So of course, nobody can tell Cheeto what to do. That's why he spoke up defending Moore. Meanwhile Bannon knew full well he was planning these dirty tricks.


Mr. Ected

(9,675 posts)
24. For those here demanding/suggesting Al Franken's resignation
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:27 PM
Nov 2017

Cool your jets.

This is how the right wing propaganda machine operates. They're not even very good at it.

Take any accusations with a grain of salt. Don't trust, but do verify. If merited, run with it.

They've done this to themselves. It's not right to disbelieve a woman's account of abuse. But when that woman belongs to a group that is known for its lies and dirty tricks, thereby politicizing the abuse, no one can be taken at face value.

It's the boy who cried wolf syndrome, applied to the GOP. Project Veritas demeans and devalues true victims. True victims should be rioting against them, regardless of party affiliation.

Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #24)

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
30. Jake Tapper's response
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:42 PM
Nov 2017
@jaketapper
"Political activist prankster caught faking a sexual assault in an attempt to undermine real victims.

Other than being an actual sexual predator, im not sure how much more ethically lost someone could be than that -- but the night is still young."



Saviolo

(3,284 posts)
31. But Wait: There's More!
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:50 PM
Nov 2017



And possibly my favourite tweet about this:




How many times can a man fail to fuck a rat? The James O'Keefe story.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Amazing that Project Veritas would be so incredibly
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

inept and sloppy. The woman actually used the same name to the WaPo reporter and on her "GimmeMoney" account, and left other obvious clues. If they weren't so poisonous they'd be a joke.

WaPo: “I’m moving to New York!” the May 29 appeal said. “I’ve accepted a job to work in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceipt of the liberal MSM. I’ll be using my skills as a researcher and fact-checker to help our movement. I was laid off from my mortgage job a few months ago and came across the opportunity to change my career path.”

In a March posting on its Facebook page, Project Veritas said it was seeking 12 new “undercover reporters,” though the organization’s operatives use methods that are eschewed by mainstream journalists, such as misrepresenting themselves.

The job’s listed goal: “To adopt an alias persona, gain access to an identified person of interest and persuade that person to reveal information.” It also listed tasks that the job applicant should be able to master, including: “Learning a script,” “Preparing a background story to support your role,” “Gaining an appointment or access to the target of the investigation,” and “Operating concealed recording equipment.”


Hope she's broke, friendless, far from home, and in legal difficulties.

Vogon_Glory

(9,137 posts)
32. This woman deserves to be outed
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:56 PM
Nov 2017

This woman deserves to be outed. I have no pity for her ilk, particularly if she’s trying to discredit the exposure of a grown man who bothers teen-aged girls. I believe that part of the long-term cure for people like this woman is to have their true names and faces identified and flung all over the Internet so their say-so will be garbage for decades to come. Enough of this and some of these righties will realize that lying hurts them too.

Denzil_DC

(7,288 posts)
36. HOLD THE FRONT PAGE! O'Keefe has a counter-scoop:
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:07 PM
Nov 2017



James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII

[Embedded video]

BREAKING: @washingtonpost National Security Correspondent on WaPo company culture: "They definitely don't like Trump…" #ProjectVeritas





James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII

[Embedded video]

.@washingtonpost National Security Reporter @DanLamothe: “Woah, I work for that place?” in Reference to Biased Editorial Section


I looked at the replies, expecting them to be filled with dittoheads, but it's pretty much all people going: "So, it's shocking that editorial and news are different? Really, are you that dense?", "Seriously. This video DISPROVES their claims. My god, I can't believe how stupid they are." and ripping O'Keefe for his funding sources.

riversedge

(70,448 posts)
41. "Our cover is blown" says O'Keefe
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:11 PM
Nov 2017

Rebecca Ballhaus?Verified account @rebeccaballhaus

Project Veritas’s James O’Keefe refers to woman who falsely told @bethreinhard she was impregnated by Roy Moore as “investigative journalist embedded within the publication”


Denzil_DC

(7,288 posts)
42. "Now our team in a dash to beat The Washington Post to the presses."
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:09 PM
Nov 2017

Well, they lost that race. And anyway, it's a popgun versus heavy artillery!

The Post's tweeted a bunch of articles about the whole scam, such as:





Washington Post

@washingtonpost
Replying to @washingtonpost

Post reporters found inconsistencies in the woman's story and an Internet post that raised doubts about her motivations.

Today, reporters saw her walking into Project Veritas, an organization that targets journalists in an effort to embarrass them. http://wapo.st/2zvQBH5


Washington Post

@washingtonpost

After seeing the woman entering Project Veritas, The Post made the unusual decision to report her previous off-the-record comments. http://wapo.st/2zvQBH5 pic.twitter.com/Q0uJ9iaBoo



Meanwhile, O'Keefe and Project Veritas are reduced to desperately Tweeting nothingburger "revelation" footage of some Post staffer explaining the difference between news and comment (and being freely critical of his own paper's editorial line), and they're being swamped with replies ridiculing them (and the few bots and MAGA types who've blown in are getting seriously owned):




James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII

Video of @washingtonpost national security reporter shows his disbelief at how critical their editorial team is. #ProjectVeritas #AmericanPravda Full:






Project Veritas? @Project_Veritas

Looks like @DanLamothe is a fan of our #AmericanPravda series. Here he is attacking #CNN and #NYT for their extreme bias against @realDonaldTrump. https://www.projectveritas.com/2017/11/27/breaking-undercover-video-exposes-washington-posts-hidden-agenda/ … @washingtonpost


ProfessorGAC

(65,403 posts)
63. You Can Smell That Punk 4 States Away!
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:36 PM
Nov 2017

A slappable little twit!
Yeah, O'Keefe! 61 year old daring you to publicly challenge me!
You'll be sorry you twit!

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Bengus81

(6,938 posts)
52. More of the same from O'Keefe. He's taken over from Karl Rove..........
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 11:32 AM
Nov 2017

As the RNC dirty trickster. Except he gets BUSTED more than he succeeds.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,740 posts)
54. Analysis: The 6 most puzzling aspects of this James O'Keefe-Project Veritas botched sting debacle
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 01:39 PM
Nov 2017
Analysis: The 6 most puzzling aspects of this James O’Keefe-Project Veritas botched sting debacle



The Fix Analysis

The 6 most puzzling aspects of this James O’Keefe-Project Veritas botched sting debacle

By Aaron Blake November 28 at 9:22 AM

The Washington Post on Monday night published a detailed account of an apparent attempt to deceive Post reporters into believing a made-up story of a woman who says she had an abortion after Roy Moore, who is now the GOP Senate nominee in Alabama, impregnated her when she was 15. The woman was seen walking into the headquarters Monday morning of Project Veritas, a political operation that employs deceptive tactics in attempts to embarrass journalists and expose alleged bias.

But however this plot turned out, it's worth recapping just how poorly conceived and executed it was — and just how embarrassing this is for Project Veritas. Shortly after the woman was seen walking into the headquarters, founder James O’Keefe declined to answer questions about her connection to the organization.

Project Veritas has taken down some powerful people, but this was a mess. (And it's not alone in that distinction, as Will Sommer recounts.) Let's take it piece by piece.




{snip}

....
Aaron Blake is senior political reporter for The Fix. Follow @aaronblake

homegirl

(1,436 posts)
57. Conservative Christian Voters...
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 02:44 PM
Nov 2017

Moore shouldn't be worried about the conservative Christian vote. We saw with Trump how fluid their morals and standards are. They showed us in no uncertain terms that they literally don't care what a GOP candidate says or does so long as they maintain their antiquated 1860's mentality. They also showed us that their claims of moral superiority are a load of garbage.


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