Trump ex-Campaign Chair Manafort sues Mueller, Rosenstein, and Department of Justice
Source: CNBC
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has sued special counsel Robert Mueller, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and the U.S. Department of Justice.
The suit alleges that Mueller has strayed beyond the scope of the investigation he was authorized to pursue, and argues that the charges filed against Manafort have nothing to do with the 2016 presidential election that spurred Mueller's appointment.
"The actions of DOJ and Mr. Rosenstein in issuing the Appointment Order, and Mr. Mueller's actions pursuant to the authority the Order granted him, were arbitrary, capricious, and not in accordance with the law," the suit reads.
The appointment order authorizing Mueller as special counsel permits him to investigate any matters that "may arise directly from the investigation."
Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/03/trump-ex-campaign-chair-manafort-sues-mueller-rosenstein-and-department-of-justice.html
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,254 posts)Paul will have nothing once Mueller is done with him.
mpcamb
(2,881 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Why would it matter HOW he got caught?
Rhetorical question - I'll stay tuned ...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)He skated though he was clearly guilty. Because it mattered how he was caught.
But Manafort's main premise that Mueller exceeded his mandate is not a valid legal theory. Mueller's mandate is to follow the facts wherever they go.
A crime is still a crime, even if it isn't what the prosecutor was looking for. If you investigate someone for larceny and in the process uncover a murder, is the murder then invalid?
unblock
(52,494 posts)groundloop
(11,533 posts)Treason, not so much.
Oh my God, these damned repuke traitors are getting desperate aren't they?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,137 posts)serving caviar at a WH function, as in treason for serving caviar, a Russian delicacy.
But their guy goes into business with the KGB, nothing.
onenote
(42,831 posts)Starr was operating under the auspices of the Independent Counsel Act, which authorized the appointment of an "independent prosecutor" by a panel of the DC Circuit who, upon request could (and did) expand or alter the scope of the independent prosecutor's investigation. The Independent Counsel Act expired in 1999 and was replaced by the Special Counsel Act which operates within the DOJ and is not supervised by the Court of Appeals. I haven't looked at the Special Counsel Act closely enough to see how it defines the scope of a special counsel's investigatory power, but from what the article says, it appears that Mueller was granted broad authority and the claim is that Rosenstein didn't have the power under the law to give Mueller such broad authority.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Started with whitewater. (I think) Starr jailed Susan?forget last name for over a year for refusing to testify. Hes a real pos.
unblock
(52,494 posts)he investigated ever stupid, crazy wacky idea the right wing could come up with.
couldn't find a thing.
finally he talked paula jones' lawyers into suing clinton in civil court so they could try to get him on perjury.
jpak
(41,760 posts)yup
woodsprite
(11,940 posts)Could he stop Mueller from announcing any more info re: the Russia/money laundering investigation because they were doing their own investigation of the special counsel?
EarthFirst
(2,906 posts)Someone with much more legal savvy would have to explain this to me.
onenote
(42,831 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,073 posts)MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)At worst he could just refer it to an appropriate jurisdiction.
onenote
(42,831 posts)It's that there is a process by which the Special Counsel can go to the Attorney General (or in this case Rosenstein) and, after consultation, the Atty Gen'l can expand the scope of the Special Counsel's investigation beyond that specified in the original authorizing order. The claim is that the original authorizing order circumvented this process by giving Mueller authority to investigate matters beyond those specifically described in the authorizing order without having to go to the AG with a showing of need for such expanded authority.
iluvtennis
(19,907 posts)District Attorney once they file charges against him? Maybe Bill Cosby can sue now as charges already filed against him.
0rganism
(23,991 posts)but in this case, i'd bet everything worth discovering has already been ... discovered. so go for it mr. Manafort, good luck not saying something you regret while under oath.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)I hope you end up dead broke and in jail. It could not happen to a meaner son of a bitch.
SunSeeker
(51,798 posts)onenote
(42,831 posts)And this suit against the government wouldn't be a SLAPP suit in any event.
SunSeeker
(51,798 posts)And as far as whether anti-SLAPP laws apply in federal court there is a circuit split on the issue. The Ninth and First Circuits have both accorded federal-court defendants the full procedural advantages of anti-SLAPP laws. See, e.g., Batzel v. Smith, 133 F.3d 1018, 1024-26 (9th Cir. 2003); Godin v. Schencks, 629 F.3d 79, 88 (1st Cir. 2010). The DC Circuit, on the other hand, has concluded that anti-SLAPP motions dont belong in federal courts because they directly conflict with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. See Abbas v. Foreign Policy Grp., LLC, 783 F.3d 1328, 1333-37 (DC Cir. 2015).
Alas, I just realized this case is in the DC Circuit, so you are right in this instance.
But there's always Rule 11!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)paleotn
(18,014 posts)Grasping at straws me thinks.
BigmanPigman
(51,653 posts)by contacting a Russian to write an article together while he is under indictment and now he pulls this shit?!
bluestarone
(17,122 posts)Russian people are feeding him ways to fight his charges. This is why Mueller needs to act fastest possible way here
It seems like the person he should sue is Schneiderman.
onecaliberal
(32,996 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,821 posts)If manafort somehow manages to skate, which the NYT piece quoting several federal prosecutors said the suit is baseless, Schneiderman will immediately pick up and go with RICO charges against him. He's a fool. He thinks the advise he's getting from the Russians will help him?? Really?? They will dump him so fast!!
riversedge
(70,445 posts)...............If the ultimate objective is to continue to try to undermine the credibility of Mueller and his prosecutors, it could have some value, said Jimmy Gurulé, a Notre Dame law professor who was a senior Justice Department official in the administration of the first President George Bush. But in terms of a legal strategy, its highly unlikely to prevail.
Worse for the White House, the lawsuit also invites Mr. Mueller to give a devastating response that spells out all the ways Mr. Manafort is relevant to Mr. Trump and the Russia investigation, said Peter Zeidenberg, a former prosecutor who worked on a special counsel investigation during the George W. Bush administration. If Im the government, Im licking my chops to file this response. Hes going to tie a bow on this, he said of Mr. Mueller.
Even if Mr. Manafort succeeds at every turn, his problems are not over. He could still face charges if new prosecutors decided to bring them. But any court ruling that narrowed Mr. Muellers authority would give him less leeway to use unrelated charges as leverage against people close to the president.
Mr. Mueller won the cooperation of Mr. Trumps former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, for instance, after investigating him for unregistered foreign lobbying and lying to the F.B.I. on matters unrelated to the election.
The lawsuit provides fodder for Republicans who are trying to discredit Mr. Muellers investigation. As evidence that Mr. Mueller is biased, critics have pointed to Democratic donations by members of his team and anti-Trump text messages sent by an F.B.I. agent whom Mr. Mueller removed from the investigation.....................