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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:15 PM Jan 2018

Schiff: Case that Trump obstructed justice is getting stronger

Source: The Hill

BY BRANDON CARTER - 01/05/18 12:00 PM EST

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Friday that reports that President Trump attempted to order Attorney General Jeff Sessions to not recuse himself from the Russia investigation is evidence the White House attempted “to obstruct justice."

“The allegations in the Times piece, if accurate, provide further potential evidence that the White House was engaged in an effort to obstruct justice,” Schiff told The Washington Post.

The New York Times reported Thursday that Trump ordered White House counsel Don McGahn to prevent Sessions from recusing himself from the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

When McGahn failed, Trump was reportedly furious and told White House officials he needed Sessions to protect him.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/367607-schiff-case-that-trump-obstructed-justice-is-getting-stronger

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Schiff: Case that Trump obstructed justice is getting stronger (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP

Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #1

It's not like they have a confession from Trump, though. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2018 #2

It always baffles me Bradical79 Jan 2018 #6

And WHY did trump do this? To hide his treason. I know charges of treason wont be Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #3

I don't agree we "are not technically at war with Russia." lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #12

I see what you are saying, war is not technically required, just adhering to an enemy. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #13

Exactly - we don't want to fall for the RW meme that treason requires war. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #14

It will be easy to prove obstruction of justice Gothmog Jan 2018 #4

I'd say it already is Bradical79 Jan 2018 #7

Exactly. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #8

Surely McGahn is in a whole heap of trouble as a result of this ? OnDoutside Jan 2018 #5

That is my question as well..... nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #9

My guess is Sessions told Trump before he was sworn in FakeNoose Jan 2018 #10

No Holds Barred Schiff. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #11

dalton99a

(81,707 posts)

1. Kick

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:17 PM

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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,230 posts)

2. It's not like they have a confession from Trump, though.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:18 PM

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Oh wait. They do.

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)

6. It always baffles me

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:42 PM

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It always baffles me that public recorded confessions aren't good enough when it comes to people like Trump.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,138 posts)

3. And WHY did trump do this? To hide his treason. I know charges of treason wont be

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:22 PM

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brought because we are not technically at war with Russia, but that is what it is.

And if any democrat did this, charges of treason would be everywhere.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

12. I don't agree we "are not technically at war with Russia."

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:06 PM

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Since the 2016 election hack and coup, we technically are.

Besides, I don't see that war is technically required; it is one of several possible causes to prosecute for treason:

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be ...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,138 posts)

13. I see what you are saying, war is not technically required, just adhering to an enemy.

Reply to lagomorph777 (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:12 PM

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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

14. Exactly - we don't want to fall for the RW meme that treason requires war.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:20 PM

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Treason should be prosecuted fully when the President commits it.

Gothmog

(145,941 posts)

4. It will be easy to prove obstruction of justice

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:29 PM

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Bradical79

(4,490 posts)

7. I'd say it already is

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:49 PM

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The problem is that the jury is currently stacked with co-conspirators.

Irish_Dem

(48,032 posts)

8. Exactly. nt

Reply to Bradical79 (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:25 PM

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OnDoutside

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5. Surely McGahn is in a whole heap of trouble as a result of this ?

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Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:29 PM

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Irish_Dem

(48,032 posts)

9. That is my question as well..... nt

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Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:25 PM

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FakeNoose

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10. My guess is Sessions told Trump before he was sworn in

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:43 PM

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After all, Jeff Sessions is a lawyer and former prosecutor. He had to know that he would recuse himself if the Russian involvement ever came up. Probably Sessions told him, and Trump wasn't listening and had no clue what it meant.

Now he knows.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

11. No Holds Barred Schiff.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:03 PM

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