'But They Didn't Prosecute Hillary Clinton': Sailor Pardoned by Trump Plans to Sue Obama, Comey
Source: Law & Crime
by Alberto Luperon | 5:17 pm, June 4th, 2018
Ex-Navy sailor Kristian Saucier says it was unfair to prosecute him for taking classified parts of a submarine. After all, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton didnt get charged for her emails. Saucier announced his upcoming lawsuit over the allegedly unfair treatment in an interview with Fox News on Monday. Barack Obama was president, and James Comey was FBI Director when this former sailor pleaded guilty in 2016. They are going to be among the defendants in the complaint, said attorney Ronald Daigle.
They interpreted the law in my case to say it was criminal, but they didnt prosecute Hillary Clinton, said Saucier, who was pardoned last March by President Donald Trump. Hillary is still walking free. Two guys on my ship did the same thing and werent treated as criminals. We want them to correct the wrong.
Saucier admittedly took the pictures in 2009 while at the USS Alexandria, stations in Groton, Connecticut. He just wanted service mementos to show his family, he said. In a press statement, the DOJ said Saucier took pictures on three separate occasions. They said taking the photos was illegal because they showed classified material, including the reactor head configuration, and propulsion system. Prosecutors accused him of destroying a laptop computer, personal camera, and the cameras memory card to interfere with the ensuing criminal probe. He ended up pleading guilty to one count of unauthorized possession and retention of national defense information on May 27, 2016. The sentence was a year behind bars, three years of supervised release conditioned upon six months house arrest, and 100 hours of community service, the DOJ said. But Saucier said the DOJ stopped over the boundaries and made an example of him because of the controversy over the Clinton email investigation.
My case was usually something handled by military courts, he told Fox. They used me as an example because of Hillary Clinton.
Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/but-they-didnt-prosecute-hillary-clinton-sailor-pardoned-by-trump-plans-to-sue-obama-comey/
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)if he pardoned him
Norbert
(6,043 posts)I'd just love to see the damn fool separate himself from much of his money.
elleng
(131,415 posts)DURHAM D
(32,619 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,769 posts)Or is the lawsuit pro se?
elleng
(131,415 posts)'Saucier announced his upcoming lawsuit'
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)PSPS
(13,644 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)On the spot.
Mike Nelson
(9,990 posts)
would have handled this differently if he hadn't reacted in such and angry and destructive manner.
videohead5
(2,190 posts)E-mail those unmarked classified e-mails to herself.the State Department is more to blame.Hillary never did throw the people at the State Department under the bus and she could have.
Solly Mack
(90,803 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,289 posts)louis-t
(23,315 posts)These people all plead guilty, admit their crime (like D'Sousa) and then claim they were treated unfairly? Welcome to drumpfs America.
..."It's all Hillary's fault" has been the go-to argument for formers since, oh, 2015. Or maybe 1992,depending on how you measure it.
BHDem53
(1,061 posts)jmowreader
(50,601 posts)Let's revoke Saucier's pardon, charge the "two guys on (his) ship (who) did the same thing" and throw Trump in prison for overstepping his bounds.
Submarine service is like Fight Club: the first two rules are "you do not talk about this." And the third rule is, "you do not take pictures inside a submarine."
clementine613
(561 posts)jmowreader
(50,601 posts)Gothmog
(145,965 posts)Ilsa
(61,717 posts)Donald trump while he's at it. I hope those attorneys have sailors aboard subs.
jb5150
(1,186 posts)oh wait ......
pangaia
(24,324 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)How do people with no brain matter get through life?
jpak
(41,761 posts)Get out of my country.
Lock you back up.
etc.
FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)They could have gotten him on a lot more than one offense. Now he's also snitched on the other 2 guys.
What a jerk!
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)And, by accepting a pardon which does not assert his innocence, he has effectively pleaded guilty a second time.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Javaman
(62,540 posts)mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)because this is America, dang gummit.
paleotn
(18,015 posts)nowhere. Nice try, shithead.
Firestorm49
(4,041 posts)Freethinker65
(10,116 posts)He better act quick to make his money like George Zimmerman and Joe the "Plumber".
LuvLoogie
(7,078 posts)angrychair
(8,758 posts)Its not fair a lawsuit?!?
If everyone filed a lawsuit every time someone had a perceived disparate treatment under the law, we would need a lot more lawyers.
keithbvadu2
(37,051 posts)Two guys on my ship did the same thing..."
Time to testify.
unblock
(52,503 posts)There was no case against Hillary because she clearly did not have intent to do anything harmful or damaging to national security. There was no evidence she knew any information in the server was it should have been classified.
This sailor, on the other hand, took pictures of the inner workings of a nuclear submarine. I guarantee there is absolutely no way he did not know those pictures were not just classified but highly classified. He wouldn't even have access to that part of the boat if he didn't know that.
He absolutely knew what he was doing was illegal.
Huge difference.
cannabis_flower
(3,769 posts)His intent was to impress girls or sumpthin' but it's still illegal and he knew it was illegal. Maybe he's like Howard Wolowitz and can't help taking a few pictures to show girls back home.
Still illegal and he knew it.
IronLionZion
(45,667 posts)glad he's correcting these terrible injustices of our legal system.
What an asshole. Trump will be taken away in handcuffs before Hillary, Obama, or Comey
jb5150
(1,186 posts)that you have lots of training on what you can, and cannot do, and I expect that training is doubly drummed into you while serving on a submarine that is chock full of sensitive equipment. On my ship even the menu of what was being served in the ship's mess (dining hall) that day was considered classified. Why, I don't know, but in the military you learn not to ask questions like that.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)JUSTICE POWELL delivered the opinion of the Court ...
... our decisions consistently have held that government officials are entitled to some form of immunity from suits for damages. As recognized at common law, public officers require this protection to shield them from undue interference with their duties and from potentially disabling threats of liability.
Our decisions have recognized immunity defenses of two kinds. For officials whose special functions or constitutional status requires complete protection from suit, we have recognized the defense of "absolute immunity" ... Our decisions also have extended absolute immunity to certain officials of the Executive Branch. These include prosecutors and similar officials .. executive officers engaged in adjudicative functions .. and the President of the United States ...
For executive officials in general, however, our cases make plain that qualified immunity represents the norm ...
Insubstantial lawsuits can be quickly terminated by federal courts alert to the possibilities of artful pleading. Unless the complaint states a compensable claim for relief .. it should not survive a motion to dismiss. Moreover .. damages suits concerning constitutional violations need not proceed to trial, but can be terminated on a properly supported motion for summary judgment based on the defense of immunity ... In responding to such a motion, plaintiffs may not play dog in the manger; and firm application of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure will ensure that federal officials are not harassed by frivolous lawsuits ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/457/800
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)dreamland
(964 posts)I'll bet his intentions was to sell his pictures but the DOJ played interference. Now we have a pResident who will let him walk because "her emails". I hope he loses all his money going to court. He sounds like a Don con groupie.
Grins
(7,263 posts)This is going nowhere.
1. He KNEW the rules!
2. He pleaded "GUILTY"!