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Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:43 PM Jun 2018

Kamala Harris Calls On Kirstjen Nielsen To Resign Over Family Separation Stance

Last edited Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:24 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Talking Points Memo

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) called on Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen to resign on Monday, citing her track record of enforcing President Donald Trump's "anti-immigration agenda" and leading the "failed response" to the devastation in Puerto Rico.

Harris also cited a lack of transparency within the department and Nielsen's routine failure "to provide complete answers to questions from me and my colleagues" on the Homeland Security Committee.

Nielsen has come under increased scrutiny in recent days for her response to media reports on the conditions at immigration processing centers along the U.S.-Mexico border. Under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, border security agents have been given authority to arrest and criminally charge anyone who crosses the border illegally, resulting in thousands of children being separated from their parents.

On Sunday, Nielsen tweeted that the U.S. does not have a family separation policy, only to walk it back Monday by claiming the U.S. "will not apologize" for ripping families apart in order to enforce laws. She followed President Donald Trump's rhetoric, calling on Congress to "change the laws" of immigration and "close the loopholes."



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Kamala Harris Calls On Kirstjen Nielsen To Resign Over Family Separation Stance (Original Post) Blue_Adept Jun 2018 OP
It's time for Secretary Nielsen to go to jail.... paleotn Jun 2018 #1
She belongs in The Hague in manacles. mpcamb Jun 2018 #20
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jun 2018 #2
That ABC tweet bothers me - it doesn't link to her statement at all Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #5
Not just that. Her stupid straight up lied to that sheriff's conference. Saying Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #3
This person should never had been nominated let alone confirmed Cory Booker.............. turbinetree Jun 2018 #4
Walkback means that DHS Nielsen lied. To Americans. About Security. She can't be trusted. Period. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #6
The GOP policy guide: CanonRay Jun 2018 #7
Every Senator should be doing this now duforsure Jun 2018 #8
Fact Check from Snopes: The 1997 law does NOT require separating children from families. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #9
She should have lost her job for Puerto Rico a long time ago. TeamPooka Jun 2018 #10
Interesting fact about Kristjen Nielsen: pazzyanne Jun 2018 #11
You don't need kids to have empathy. Trump, sessions, kelly,Sanders etc all have kids. Kamala JI7 Jun 2018 #12
Agree, I don't have kids either, but I have taught pazzyanne Jun 2018 #17
yes, i agree with the description of Nielsen JI7 Jun 2018 #21
Huh? Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #13
I don't have kids either. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #15
She would go straight to SHS job. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #14
Kirstjen Nielsen will never make it to the human level, unfortunately. She lacks everything. Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #16
I wish that I had your knack of describing the dispicable behavior pazzyanne Jun 2018 #18
Wrong! Your comments stuck in my mind as soon as I read them. You shouldn't want to change a thing. Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #19
Thank you, Judi Lynn. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #22
Kamala Harris for president 2020 Sparky 1 Jun 2018 #23

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
5. That ABC tweet bothers me - it doesn't link to her statement at all
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jun 2018

Got one sent to me from TPM to update with though!

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,514 posts)
3. Not just that. Her stupid straight up lied to that sheriff's conference. Saying
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jun 2018

they're not doing exactly what they're doing.

CanonRay

(14,146 posts)
7. The GOP policy guide:
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jun 2018

Never acknowledge

Always deny

Never apologize

Never resign


That pretty much covers it.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. Every Senator should be doing this now
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 03:41 PM
Jun 2018

But we know the two Texas cowards Cornyn and Cruz won't for fear of trump. Allowing child abuse speaks volumes on these two , and both should be shamed out of office for doing nothing. Thank You Senator Harris for once again standing up for what's right.

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
11. Interesting fact about Kristjen Nielsen:
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 07:35 PM
Jun 2018

She is not married and does not have children. No wonder she can support the orange one and his policies on other people's kids. She has no personal experience with empathy that relates to having her own children. I find her to be a despicable POS, so she fits right in with the rest of this administration.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
12. You don't need kids to have empathy. Trump, sessions, kelly,Sanders etc all have kids. Kamala
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jun 2018

Harris does not have kids .

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
17. Agree, I don't have kids either, but I have taught
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:51 PM
Jun 2018

public school, volunteer work with children, and worked with projects for children. My point was not clearly stated and I apologize for that. Watching her (Kirstjen Nielsen) made me see red. She was such a compassionless automaton in dealing with separation of children and their families that it boggles my mind. I won't say I haven't encountered the lack of compassion before and it happens to be in my trumpster sister who has 4 children. She and I were raised in the same house by the same parents and our outlooks are totally different. My sister is fully in favor of separation of families and just says, "They knew what they were getting into when they crossed the border illegally." So you are right, having children does not ensure empathy. Hope this gives some perspective to my comment. Sorry I did not make myself clear.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
21. yes, i agree with the description of Nielsen
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:41 AM
Jun 2018

she would be a disgusting cold piece of shit even if she were to have kids.

Jedi Guy

(3,289 posts)
13. Huh?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 08:03 PM
Jun 2018

So is it your assertion that people who don't have kids are less likely to be capable of empathy where kids are concerned? My wife and I don't have (and don't want) kids, but we both abhor what Trump and his cronies are doing to these families. Empathy has nothing to do with whether or not you have kids, and everything to do with the ability to imagine how you'd feel if you were in the other person's situation.

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
15. I don't have kids either.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jun 2018

I have poured my love for kids into teaching, volunteer work, and special programs for kids. My point is that she does not have experience or a moral compass to feel compassion for these children. Perhaps the most important thing is her lack of moral compass. Sorry that you thought I was criticizing you, however if that was the point, I would also be criticizing myself. Perhaps I did not express myself as well as I might, but it is hard to do when you are working through a fog of disbelief and anger.

Judi Lynn

(160,684 posts)
16. Kirstjen Nielsen will never make it to the human level, unfortunately. She lacks everything.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:46 PM
Jun 2018

It was shocking hearing her as she gibbered her hate speech so viciously, her disrespect for the human race flying off her nasty face, along with sneers, glares, haughtiness, accusatory tone, and implication that the administration is over us all, and we'd better not test them.

I have never seen such a snarling performance from any administration official in my entire life, never would have expected anyone would be this hate-filled during public remarks.

Exactly like listening to someone either from the Third Reich, or a futuristic movie concerning a lethal fascist state.

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
18. I wish that I had your knack of describing the dispicable behavior
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:55 PM
Jun 2018

that I watched today. Thank you for putting my feelings in much better context than I did in my post on this thread.

Judi Lynn

(160,684 posts)
19. Wrong! Your comments stuck in my mind as soon as I read them. You shouldn't want to change a thing.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 10:18 PM
Jun 2018

That speaker was not at all like a human being.

Your description was right on point.

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