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highplainsdem

(49,124 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:53 AM Jun 2018

GOP candidate compares tapes of crying kids at border to daycare drop-off

Source: CNN

A Republican congressional candidate in New York said Tuesday that the sounds of crying immigrant children separated from their parents at the border were the "same exact" sounds heard at any daycare when a parent leaves for work.

"I think it's extremely unfortunate. But what people are forgetting -- they just want to listen to those tapes -- I can take you to any nursery and you're going to hear the same exact things as a mother leaves to go to work and has to leave her child at daycare. You're going to hear those same exact things," Michael Grimm, who is running for the Republican nomination in New York's 11th Congressional District, told NY1.

Grimm made the comments while defending the Trump administration's controversial "zero-tolerance" policy, which has led to the separation of children from their families at the US-Mexico border.

In a statement to CNN, Grimm said, "To clarify - we never want to separate children from parents whenever possible, however the dangerous journey across Latin America and Mexico is so horrific, we must do everything in our power to prevent it. I am confident that by working together we can put the best interests of the children first and find a compassionate solution that prevents this crisis in the first place."

-snip-

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/grimm-comments-on-kids-at-border/index.html



To REALLY clarify. Grimm's a heartless SOB.
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GOP candidate compares tapes of crying kids at border to daycare drop-off (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2018 OP
In a decent country, this would ruin his career. -nt CrispyQ Jun 2018 #1
A very Grimm fairy tale. He just wrote his opponent's campaign ad. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #5
right Cosmocat Jun 2018 #16
I'm still blown away at how close the Jones/Moore race in AL was. CrispyQ Jun 2018 #28
In a decent Country genxlib Jun 2018 #26
His antics "ruined his career" before BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #33
Stupid fucking idiot. SamKnause Jun 2018 #2
you mean anger management grimm? Javaman Jun 2018 #3
Parents come back PatSeg Jun 2018 #4
Yes, that's part of normal development jberryhill Jun 2018 #11
I remember when my children were babies PatSeg Jun 2018 #13
Also, daycare doesn't usually whisk them onto planes and buses. (n/t) forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #18
I'm pretty sure no licensed daycare rips infants from their moms and puts them in cages. flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #6
and a felon: Michael Grimm, a Former Congressman and Felon, Wants His Job Back niyad Jun 2018 #7
I applied for a job with the IRS once. forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #20
pretty much. niyad Jun 2018 #24
How would he know he has no children... Historic NY Jun 2018 #8
What the holy fuck have we become? Moostache Jun 2018 #9
And the child learns it is not abandoned by the consistent pick up jberryhill Jun 2018 #10
Grimm. That's an appropriate name. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #12
Great political source of material to use in November everywhere beachbum bob Jun 2018 #14
That quote ought to bury him in the election. marble falls Jun 2018 #15
It depends on the district Wednesdays Jun 2018 #21
Trump just folded on the issue. Its poison. He's risking his religious supporters. marble falls Jun 2018 #23
His past behavior should bury him in any election PatSeg Jun 2018 #22
Thats the problem with the way we hold elections: a whacko can run in the pack and beat two or ... marble falls Jun 2018 #25
I agree PatSeg Jun 2018 #29
In Democratic districts that went Teapublican I bet in most cases the teabagger ran in a field of .. marble falls Jun 2018 #31
Yes PatSeg Jun 2018 #36
Anybody with an interesting and smart personality has a thing or two that means something bad to ... marble falls Jun 2018 #37
Now it seems that if a candidate is a republican PatSeg Jun 2018 #42
all fascist pig republicans elmac Jun 2018 #17
But... Toorich Jun 2018 #19
Those kids may cry on the first day but they are picked up and comforted and their parents Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #27
what a fucking piece of shit gopiscrap Jun 2018 #30
Lemme tell y'all about day-care. Stonepounder Jun 2018 #32
My wife worked at daycare/preschool facilities for 30 years. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #34
When will Donald be picked up from his daycare? keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #35
During any ordinary kidnapping, these are the exact same sounds truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #38
Does this Grimm dude have a chance of getting re elected? kimbutgar Jun 2018 #39
Grimm is former federal agent that bilked the taxpayers............and turbinetree Jun 2018 #40
We used to know what to do with Nazis FiveGoodMen Jun 2018 #41

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. A very Grimm fairy tale. He just wrote his opponent's campaign ad.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jun 2018

This WILL end his career, and hopefully cause tremendous damage to every aspect of his life.

genxlib

(5,547 posts)
26. In a decent Country
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jun 2018

His career would have been over when he proved himself to be a psychopathic violent bully on live video.

Javaman

(62,540 posts)
3. you mean anger management grimm?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:58 AM
Jun 2018

the same felon that was found guilty of 20 counts of fraud, federal tax evasion, and perjury? that same piece of shit?

fuck him. his opinion means nothing and he will lose in november.

just another heartless piece of shit with no empathy.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
4. Parents come back
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jun 2018

and pick their kids up from daycare. Once the children realize that, they are less traumatized when they are left. Also they aren't put in "cages" with no toys and little adult interaction. What a ridiculous comparison.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Yes, that's part of normal development
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:06 PM
Jun 2018

The parents come back, and the child eases off of separation anxiety.

This is a traumatic abandonment which will affect the development of these children.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
13. I remember when my children were babies
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jun 2018

I would occasionally leave them for short periods of time to get them used to the idea that when I left, I always came back. Very young children often have abandonment fears. It is common among other mammals as well.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure no licensed daycare rips infants from their moms and puts them in cages.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jun 2018

Oh, and the moms are there to pick them up later that day.

Your point is insane, like you.

niyad

(113,961 posts)
7. and a felon: Michael Grimm, a Former Congressman and Felon, Wants His Job Back
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jun 2018

Michael Grimm, a Former Congressman and Felon, Wants His Job Back

Former Representative Michael Grimm, a Staten Island Republican who went to jail for felony tax fraud, announced on Sunday he is running for his old job.CreditKevin Hagen for The New York Times

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Oct. 1, 2017

Standing in front of a giant American flag, Michael Grimm, the former congressman from Staten Island who was forced to resign for felony tax fraud, formally announced on Sunday his candidacy to recapture his old seat.

The battle between Mr. Grimm and Representative Dan Donovan for the Republican nomination immediately becomes one of the most intriguing congressional primaries in the nation next year, and gives Democrats renewed hope to pick off the last congressional Republican who still represents New York City in a district that has proved elusive in recent years.

His second life as a candidate would seem to be a remarkable and unlikely turnaround for Mr. Grimm, a former Marine, a former F.B.I. agent, a former congressman and a former felon who served seven months in prison.

But at the announcement rally on Staten Island — where numerous attendees rolled up in motorcycle gear and muscle cars, including a yellow Corvette, and a girls’ cheering squad performed and later posed for pictures — there was little sense that Mr. Grimm’s criminal past mattered much.

. . . .


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/01/nyregion/staten-island-congressman-grimm.html

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
20. I applied for a job with the IRS once.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jun 2018

They wouldn't hire you if you'd had any of your own major tax issues in the past.

So felony tax fraud...against the goverment...means you can't get a government job, but you can still run for Congress and ostensibly be elected to control laws which involve taxes.

I guess truly everything's okay if you're rich and white.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
9. What the holy fuck have we become?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

Even giving voice to such inane bullshit should be unthinkable...to do it with the expectation that people will accept such horseshit and quell their outrage at child detention and infant concentration camps is mind blowing.

I had to be the one to take my first daughter to daycare on the first day she spent away from my wife and I following her birth...at the age of 8 weeks old. My wife could not handle the idea of leaving our baby in the hands of ANYONE...for EIGHT HOURS...KNOWING we would be getting her back that same day. I was gutted myself when I had to leave the daycare and head to work that day, but i KNEW my child was being cared for, watched, and RETURNED that day. And she knew it too...so while the trauma was real that first day, everyday after that became less and less traumatic because we all KNEW we would be reunited THAT SAME DAY, EVERY TIME...

These callous, inhumane assholes out there defending this need to be tarred and feathered with this decision for the rest of their lives. They deserve to answer for it on every job application, rental agreement, loan application and document they file FOREVER. When you are a monster, defending the indefensible comes easy...real life and integration in civil society should NOT forget this...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. And the child learns it is not abandoned by the consistent pick up
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:04 PM
Jun 2018

Yes, getting over separation anxiety is part of early development.

BUT THIS IS NOT THAT.

Wednesdays

(17,487 posts)
21. It depends on the district
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jun 2018

And on how many voters Fox Propaganda Network can dredge up for him. And on who operates the voting machines. And on how much the Russians will hack said machines...

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
22. His past behavior should bury him in any election
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jun 2018

He threatened to throw a reporter off a balcony and break him in half. Not to mention he is a convicted felon. You'd think he couldn't possibly ruin his chances any more, but apparently he can.

marble falls

(57,537 posts)
25. Thats the problem with the way we hold elections: a whacko can run in the pack and beat two or ...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jun 2018

better candidates. We need to have run-offs if no candidate can beat 50%.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
29. I agree
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jun 2018

Our elections need a major overhaul and run-offs would help keep the nutjobs away from power. Look at what the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus has done to congress. Run-offs might have prevented a lot of those candidates from winning a general election. Many of these screwballs aren't qualified to be greeters at Walmart.

marble falls

(57,537 posts)
31. In Democratic districts that went Teapublican I bet in most cases the teabagger ran in a field of ..
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jun 2018

three or more. In Republican held districts that went Tepublican, being an incumbent seen as "safe" in an off year election will easier to pick off because of voters who miss the election but who are confident that old Rep Soandso will keep his seat anyway. Ask Rep Eric Cantor how surprised he was as a 14 year member AND Speaker of the House.

In some ways I'd like mandatory voting with thumbs dipped in indelible ink. Those with no ink do not get to discuss politics in any way until the dye wears off of voters' thumbs.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
36. Yes
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:05 PM
Jun 2018

We've seen quite a few republican incumbents unseated by a TeaParty oddball and early TeaParty favorites eventually became moderate in comparison to those who followed them. Apparently politics became the occupation for people with no talent or skills whatsoever, aside from fomenting fear and hatred. Most of them have no idea how government even works, much like the grifter in the White House.

marble falls

(57,537 posts)
37. Anybody with an interesting and smart personality has a thing or two that means something bad to ...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jun 2018

someone to hide. Smoking pot used to be one. Unintelligent dull simple people may have nothing to hide but seldom have anything to show. At least nothing you'd want to see, like cheetolini's hair from behind going up an airliner ramp.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
42. Now it seems that if a candidate is a republican
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jun 2018

pretty much anything goes. We haven't tested a convicted murderer yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if even he/she could get elected. If, however, you are a Democrat, the wrong colored suit or a cough could be a disqualifier. Democrats are held to impossibly high standards. It is so bizarre.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
17. all fascist pig republicans
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

and I'm talking about everyone who voted for the monster, should get an express ticket to hell.

Toorich

(391 posts)
19. But...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

.... we only wanted to be good Germans for our Fuhrer. We didn't know about the camps.
We were only following orders. We were only obeying the Law.

Maraya1969

(22,516 posts)
27. Those kids may cry on the first day but they are picked up and comforted and their parents
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jun 2018

come back for them. After a period of time they know this and don't cry anymore.

This guy, Michael Grimm, is a monster.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
32. Lemme tell y'all about day-care.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018

Had a relative with a young son (toddler age). Hubby had skipped out and she was working full-time. She found a well-rated day care close to her work. One day when she went to pick up son, she heard two employees casually talking about how the day-care administrators had ignored the fact that a few days ago her son hadn't wanted to take his nap, so the teacher in the room had duct taped him to his mat!

Relative went straight to the police station and reported said event. Cops, including a detective, were dispatched immediately, and the day-care was shut down on the spot and shortly thereafter their licence was revoked. Eventually, the license was permanently revoked, the owner was forbidden from ever getting another one, one of the employees went to jail, and a $100,000 settlement was reached for our relative to hold in trust for her son.

That's how day-care really works!

34. My wife worked at daycare/preschool facilities for 30 years.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jun 2018

I do not recall a single time when I visited her that more than one child was having a melt down, usually because someone took their toy. Of course, they knew that if they needed to, they could go up to her and get a hug, or sit on her lap until they felt less upset. And every single student hugged her goodbye at the end of the day. I often wished the same thing happened at my work, but the other attorneys and judges weren't keen on the idea.

Right wing GOPers are heartless bastards. I'm glad I didn't have one as a parent.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
40. Grimm is former federal agent that bilked the taxpayers............and
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jun 2018

What was Michael Grimm convicted of?
On April 28, 2014, Grimm was charged by federal authorities with 20 counts of fraud, federal tax evasion, and perjury. On December 23, 2014, he pleaded guilty to a single count of felony tax fraud, and "acknowledged committing perjury, hiring illegal immigrants, and committing wire fraud".

So he hired "illegal immigrants" ..........................

So a solution to him and the other asshole running is this

https://ballotpedia.org/New_York%27s_1st_Congressional_District_election,_2018

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