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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:52 AM Jun 2018

'What Is The Purpose': Trump Tweet Further Imperils House GOP Immigration Push

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Cameron Joseph | June 21, 2018 9:42 am

President Trump dumped cold water all over House Republicans’ flickering efforts to pass a major immigration bill on Thursday, undercutting their already-unsteady push with just hours to go before scheduled votes with a tweet.




The tweet is the latest sign of Trump’s ambivalence towards a pair of competing House GOP bills that would hand him much of what he’s asked for on immigration: money for his border wall and more restrictions on visas for immigrants entering the country in exchange for protections for undocumented immigrants brought here as children.

And it’s his latest move to undercut the tense House negotiations, which have already been thoroughly upended by the Trump administration’s move to separate migrant families at the border (one Trump partially walked back with an executive order on Wednesday after saying that wasn’t within his power). Trump also didn’t give the ringing endorsement House leaders had hoped for on the bills during a meeting with House members on Tuesday, instead delivering a rambling stem-winder that confused many in the room.

The House immigration fight is as much about politics as policy. Moderate House Republicans in more diverse and suburban districts facing tough reelection fights are desperate to protect DREAMers who are facing the loss of their legal status after Trump’s attempt to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/what-is-the-purpose-trump-tweet-further-imperils-house-gop-immigration-push
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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
1. If they get rid of the last vestiges of Filibuster, it will bite them, IF we can flip the Senate.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

Huge long shot, but knowing our guys would have a whole lot more power could be a big blue motivator. Would it motivate Trumpanzees? Have they ever heard of a Filibuster? Most would think it sounds like the name of a burger joint.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
6. No it won't....
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jun 2018

....because the Dems will play nice, and try to restore order, rule, and civility. Both because they want the gatekeepers of decorum and civility in the beltway media to love them and say nice things about them, and they like the cover of not having to actually pass things that aren't watered down or completely neutered. It's the one thing in DC that is bipartisan. Having the fillibuster prevents either side from ever actually doing anything bold or truly brave.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. After November (January) we will have a lot of NEW Dems, who will not play by the old rules.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:11 AM
Jun 2018

New ballgame.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
10. We'll see....
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:18 AM
Jun 2018

I'd like you to be right. But every time I think we have a crop of "new Dems" they end up disappointingly getting assimilated into the old guards of safe, cautious, cowardly, and capitulating Dems who are more concerned with having the NYT and Washington Post Editorial staff say nice things about them than they are with anything else.

As I've been saying anytime my cynicism is questioned over the past 25 or so years.....I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong. I rarely have been.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
11. not until much later
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jun 2018

trump still has the power of veto so unless we have supermajority to override his veto, the nuclear option doesnt help us. They can do a lot of damage in the meantime. Also, they can probably revert back before the end of the year depending on the election results.

bucolic_frolic

(43,553 posts)
2. Trump is for Dictatorship of Trump
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jun 2018

any concept of pluralism, compromise, policy-making, diversity are all obstructions to his dominance in his mind. He trashes anything that stands in his way. Americans have to figure this out, in numbers, before they know what to do about it.

Yonnie3

(17,520 posts)
3. Trying to blame Democrats for his upcoming failure on immigration.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jun 2018

Making his excuses in advance.

'rump the loser, "deal maker" my ass.

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
5. republicans dont want a 50 vote rule
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jun 2018

how the hell are they going to obstruct everything the next time the dems have 52 seats?


no, they konw better. they know if they change it the dems are going to steamroll bill after bill through next time the gop is in the minority

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
16. They will pack the supreme court and will pass legislation to make
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jun 2018

sure there is no next time Democrats have 52 seats. That's what will happen if they get rid of the filibuster now.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. They should stop everything
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jun 2018

Then make it first priority to make the children all be returned to their parents, cost be dammed, trump be dammed. Not doing this is harming these children from Congresses inaction because trump still wants to hurt children, and this is hurting the GOP in Congress even more if they refuse. No excuse they can't do this before anything else, protect these children, get them back while they still can.

Renew Deal

(81,901 posts)
12. Here's a crazy idea. Get something that both parties agree with
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jun 2018

There is no need to do everything yourself and not get anything of what you want.

C Moon

(12,227 posts)
14. He's putting all major decisions on hold until his boss Putin tells him what to do in July.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:16 PM
Jun 2018

Was that a run-on sentence, or what?...whew.

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