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brooklynite

(95,068 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:21 AM Jun 2018

Key House conservative not 'optimistic' about either immigration bill passing

Source: The Hill

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said he is “not optimistic” that either immigration bill that the House is considering on Thursday will pass.

“I’m not optimistic about the two bills that will be on the floor today,” Meadows said Thursday in an interview with Hill.TV's "Rising." “I think at this point, the more conservative bill doesn’t get to 218. It’s still up in the air whether the more moderate bill gets to 218.”

“If I were to have to handicap it right now at this particular point this morning,” he added, “I would say no, it’s not.”

The House is scheduled to vote Thursday on a pair of competing immigration bills: a compromise measure that was negotiated by centrists and conservatives and a more hard-line measure from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.).

Read more: http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/393426-key-house-conservative-not-optimistic-about-either-immigration-bill-passing

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Key House conservative not 'optimistic' about either immigration bill passing (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2018 OP
Citizens united broke our legislative branch and nothing good to help Americans will happen kimbutgar Jun 2018 #1
Republicans are incompetent C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #2
So much winning! axm Jun 2018 #3
Both "bills" are GOP-manufactured BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #4
That's it in a nutshell JohnnyRingo Jun 2018 #5
"Why else would they create two bills?" BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #6
not until republicans remove their stupid presidents wall spending spree Sunlei Jun 2018 #7
Along with race, it's an issue we'll never 'get over' elleng Jun 2018 #8

kimbutgar

(21,289 posts)
1. Citizens united broke our legislative branch and nothing good to help Americans will happen
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jun 2018

Again. Unless we get rid of the money in politics.

C_U_L8R

(45,047 posts)
2. Republicans are incompetent
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jun 2018

Sure they know how to say no and obstruct. That's the very nature of tight-sphincter conservatism. But they are complete fuckups when it comes to actually doing anything constructive benefiting the common good. Hell, they don't even believe in the common good. It's all 'what's in it for me' with these knuckledragging droolers.

BumRushDaShow

(130,139 posts)
4. Both "bills" are GOP-manufactured
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

There was a "bipartisan" bill that both Democrats and Republicans were willing to sign onto, and of course that one is being ignored. And even better, there is the DREAM Act, but that would need 60 in the Senate to move forward and it couldn't muster that last year.

JohnnyRingo

(18,700 posts)
5. That's it in a nutshell
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

I suspect the so called "moderate bill" is the one they wanted all along, but the GOP drafted the absurdly strict one to make dissenters appear as unreasonable obstructionists. Why else would they create two bills? I half expect them to begin referring to it as a "liberal" bill.

I also suspect both bills have a wall in them.

BumRushDaShow

(130,139 posts)
6. "Why else would they create two bills?"
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018

They have a big pile of Confederate flag-waving teabaggers in there who want none of these bills. So since the House GOP obsesses over the "Hastert Rule" (where they can only take up bills that are palatable to "the majority of the majority", i.e., can pass by only GOP votes), they delay and delay while their own civil war explodes, and we continue to be in stuck in this rut.

That's why some of their own "moderates" have been threatening a discharge petition for their own "compromise" bill that has some bipartisan support.

elleng

(131,457 posts)
8. Along with race, it's an issue we'll never 'get over'
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jun 2018

or address affirmatively, imo, problem of being the world's 'first' melting pot.

I grew up in New York City, love(d) the Statue of Liberty and Emma Lazarus, and believed that was who we WERE.

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