Border patrol agents are stopping people on highways in New England to check their citizenship
Source: CNN
(CNN)Far from ground zero in the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration along the southern border, US Customs and Border Protection checkpoints on highways in Maine and New Hampshire are catching the eye of civil liberties groups.
On Interstate 95 near the remote northern Maine town of Lincoln this week, the Border Patrol said it made nine drug seizures and two arrests for immigration violations during an 11-hour checkpoint operation in which agents asked motorists about their place of birth and citizenship status.
The federal agency -- one of several at the center of a growing humanitarian crisis involving 2,300 children separated from their parents at the Mexico border -- said in a statement that Wednesday's checkpoint in Maine was "a means of preventing smuggling organizations from exploiting existing transportation systems to travel to the interior of the United States."
Customs and Border Protection says the US Supreme Court has affirmed the agency's ability to ask motorists' citizenship status, even if they have no suspicion. Agents use training and questions to make decisions about a traveler's citizenship or residency, it said.
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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/us/maine-new-hampshire-border-patrol-checkpoints/index.html
doc03
(35,454 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)tonekat
(1,836 posts)This is beyond tolerance.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Nazi Germany redux
lapfog_1
(29,243 posts)and within a certain number of miles within the US border (60 miles I believe).
jpak
(41,761 posts)n/t
Lochloosa
(16,084 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)The "Live Free or I Will Run You Over You Fascist Pig" state.
All of NH is within 100 miles of the Canadian border or the ocean...
pnwmom
(109,025 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,856 posts)It's not the first time our government has chased the phantasms of Donald Trump's mind.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)groundloop
(11,537 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Under the Martinez decision (and a previous one from the 50s), just stopping you is detaining you. They can ask you to pull over and ask you the same questions again, but only for a few minutes. A reasonable length of seizure.
Thats all crazy, but heres the crazy part of the Martinez decision: while SCOTUS specifically gave the BP permission to ask people their immigrant status at random stops within a hundred miles of the border, SCOTUS also said that the people stopped dont have to answer the question, and that the BP has to let the silent people go.
They dont always let people go. Sometimes theyre malicious, sometimes theyre ignorant, sometimes theyre badly trained, but refusal to answer questions isnt cause for reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)Related
Link to tweet
iluvtennis
(19,912 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)So basically where more than 50% of the population of the US lives. New York, Boston, LA, Washington, SF, Seattle, Portland, Miami, etc etc etc
pangaia
(24,324 posts)EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)DBoon
(22,430 posts)Anyone who lives in heavily populated areas that are strongly against Trump can be questioned at whim by ICE?
Interesting how that works out
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)to get an officer to be sniffing around your car and your business, to see if they can arrest you on something. Are we carving out another search exemption? 100 miles from the border they can do that I'm told. Some states can have legal checkpoints as per state law. I assume that means the Canadian border as well. (the 100 mile deal.)
If that's the case police in Cleveland, Buffalo, Detroit, etc...can use it as a blanket reason to pull you over...doesn't pass the smell test to me. I dunno.
BigmanPigman
(51,674 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)That's a fact. And pay for them with taxpayer dollars. Using the power of the govt to redistribute our wealth.
axm
(91 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..Fuck That Dangerous Prick. Fuck Donald J. Trump.
3Hotdogs
(12,467 posts)I was visiting friends who live in the northern part of N.H. Border patrol or whatever organization it was, set up a roadblock and stopped every car. --- showed a license and i was allowed to proceed.
That was during the Obama administration
rocktivity
(44,588 posts)doc03
(35,454 posts)the SS can ask to see my papers! Sounds like the stories my uncle told about living in Romania during
the USSR occupation. Next if we want to take a road trip we will need permission from the government.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,415 posts)Surely not? It can't be international waters, can it? This says not:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1962d-20
And obviously Michigan is the exception.
C Moon
(12,227 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,511 posts)in updating background information from the 1990s to comply with federal requirements
asked the same thing as part of their verbal survey.
"Are you a U.S. citizen?"
Struck me as odd.
watoos
(7,142 posts)that Trump and the Repugs want money for more agents along the southern border, they want more agents across the country. Godwin's Law be damned, we are fast approaching Nazi Germany. Papers Please.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)outside a town near an enormous chicken plant.
They asked for my vehicle registration and proof of insurance - required by law - and we had neither in the vehicle. I thought I was at least going to get ticketed!
The trooper looks around the car, and said "Get that in your glove compartment, have a nice day."
I'm sure "being a typical Alabama dumbass" convinced them I was a US citizen more than any ID would.
In other words, they were 'profiling' a specific area and doing immigration enforcement for the state. The state also tried to require teachers to report suspected immigrant status, but courts shut that down.
IronLionZion
(45,667 posts)they could be anyone, anywhere.
Yes, I know they pull over whites too. But they give extra scrutiny and harassment to brown people and refuse to believe our passport or driver's license is even real. It happens to me with my DC license. These assholes claim DC isn't a state and can't have licenses.
I carry my passport whenever I travel by car or plane. Yes, it is a US passport.
IronLionZion
(45,667 posts)This video is from 2013. If you try it these days you better hope you didn't get tan over the summer because it might end up bad for you.
elmac
(4,642 posts)and before the fascists took control I would have answered their questions but now, as a protest, I would make their job a pain in the ass.
AllaN01Bear
(18,832 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)for when she did modeling she is an illegal immigrant. If she lied to immigration her naturalization is null and void.
CanonRay
(14,146 posts)I'm thinking they are not going to take this well.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Checkpoints and complaints are escalating and it's becoming a more publicized issue in the media. ALL of New England, save for a tiny corner in SE Vermont, is in the enforcement zone so basically any of us can be pulled over at any time. Ridiculous! Supposedly we have the right to refuse to answer citizenship questions, but must be prepared to be retained until the patrol is satisfied we're not a danger.
Thus far, the patrol is asking questions without requiring production of paperwork. I put nothing past the Dump administration and feel that it's just a matter of time before this changes. I used to have a wallet-sized certified birth certificate, but that's gone missing over the years, and I have just submitted a form and payment to my hometown Clerk's office to replace it, just in case. I don't wish to carry my Passport at all times, and a drivers' license is only proof of residence, not citizenship.
[link:https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone|
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Much of U.S. Population Affected
Many people think that border-related policies only impact people living in border towns like El Paso or San Diego. The reality is that Border Patrol's interior enforcement operations encroach deep into and across the United States, affecting the majority of Americans.
Roughly two-thirds of the United States' population lives within the 100-mile zonethat is, within 100 miles of a U.S. land or coastal border. That's about 200 million people.
Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont lie entirely or almost entirely within this area.
Nine of the ten largest U.S. metropolitan areas, as determined by the 2010 Census, also fall within this zone: New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego and San Jose.
"Papers, please." Be ready...it's coming.