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bigworld

(1,807 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:06 PM Jun 2018

Rep. Joe Crowley defeated by challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Source: Washington Post

Cortez
The fourth-ranking Democrat in the House has lost his bid for another term: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year old activist who ran on abolishing ICE and making Medicare a universal program, defeated Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) in an upset.

Crowley is the first incumbent Democrat to lose renomination since 2014, when a Massachusetts Democrat was brought down by scandal. Crowley, who was first elected in 1998, had grown his profile inside the party and faced no personal controversies.

But Ocasio-Cortez argued that the increasingly non-white district, which stretches from the Bronx to Queens, had been represented too long by a figure from the local political machine. Crowley, who chaired the Queens Democratic Party while serving in Congress, had played a major role in determining candidates for local offices. Ocasio-Cortez said that he had grown too distant — he enrolled his children in a northern Virginia school — and too dependent on donations from corporate PACs.

Crowley took the primary seriously, spending $1.5 million in his first primary since 2004. He was the first member of Democratic leadership to endorse the House’s universal Medicare bill, and he joined protests against the Trump administration’s travel ban and its immigration control policies.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/live-updates/midterms/live-primary-election-results/rep-joe-crowley-defeated-by-challenger-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/?utm_term=.64a2c9d97f35

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Rep. Joe Crowley defeated by challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Original Post) bigworld Jun 2018 OP
wootwootwoot! shanny Jun 2018 #1
I'd guess the demographics of Queens C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #2
Again the challenger out hussled Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #3
Crowley took this challenge seriously. He wasn't complacent. A big part of it was the changing still_one Jun 2018 #10
Thank you for the answer. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #12
I don't want to give you the wrong impression Wellstone that I am so politically astute. It was still_one Jun 2018 #21
There are more Districts like this. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #24
Let's hope. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #15
This is the Bronx/Queens - every election since 1992 has been at least 70% for Dems LeftInTX Jun 2018 #19
That's quite a streak. Streaks end, eventually... for one reason or another. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #27
It was Republican for about 10 years LeftInTX Jun 2018 #30
This was from the Washington Post. Crowley was right up front leading the pack against trump and still_one Jun 2018 #23
Agree with all your points rpannier Jun 2018 #31
Yep. joshcryer Jun 2018 #20
That was a big part of it still_one Jun 2018 #8
You are calling Crowley "Archie Bunker"? LisaM Jun 2018 #28
No. Not at all. It's the changing demographics. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #33
Much bigger than her district. She's the headline on every news media. Even the right. Snellius Jun 2018 #41
Is this a safe Dem district? Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #4
heavilly D arithia Jun 2018 #7
Yes. D+29 TheOther95Percent Jun 2018 #9
Very harun Jun 2018 #45
She'll learn soon enough that she can't be a party of one. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #5
We have her back, she doesn't need to sell-out. harun Jun 2018 #46
Diversifying the party can only be a good thing Tarc Jun 2018 #6
Some rank and file Democrats bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #11
This Marbgd1 Jun 2018 #14
Wooooo-fuckin-hooooo!! Just shows the progressive message wins elections. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #13
This tweet says Crowley ignored the Dreamers....Anyone know anything about this?? riversedge Jun 2018 #16
There are numerous groups who've claimed Democratic leadership ignores them on various issues.... RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #35
Every now and then our Dem leaders need a good wake up call IronLionZion Jun 2018 #17
Wake up call for what? Crowly spent 1.5 million in this race. He was the FIRST member of the still_one Jun 2018 #25
The voters felt differently IronLionZion Jun 2018 #38
Joe Crowley concedes and immediately endorses @Ocasio2018 --statement by Crowley riversedge Jun 2018 #18
A far cry from waiting 8 weeks and 3 days. joshcryer Jun 2018 #22
He has character. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #32
Good for him. MBS Jun 2018 #39
Pay attention Democrats! zentrum Jun 2018 #26
Didn't Crowley send a surrogate, Annabel Palma, to take his place in a debate? democrank Jun 2018 #29
Very good! H2O Man Jun 2018 #34
I hope she is a Progressive fire brand SkatmanRoth Jun 2018 #36
I love the bitter whiny responses from the right. RandiFan1290 Jun 2018 #37
No reaction on Chuck or Nancy's Twitter Snellius Jun 2018 #40
LOL, Corporate Donor Wing of the party is NOT amused. harun Jun 2018 #44
Pelosi's reaction lukewarm at best Snellius Jun 2018 #47
From the Guardian...................... turbinetree Jun 2018 #42
Everything that happens is all about him. SMDH. nt. Pluvious Jun 2018 #48
everything he injects his psychotic BS in everything...............he thinks that he did it turbinetree Jun 2018 #50
Please ignore all the hot take artists on leftbro Twitter (i.e., Greenwald, Konst) Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #43
I like this! MuseRider Jun 2018 #52
And of course, this is why we can't have nice things: Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #54
Hopefully this portends a nascent movement away from corporate money in politics Pluvious Jun 2018 #49
Expect a Sore Loser Run MosheFeingold Jun 2018 #51
Just an observation. If we win control of the House of Representatives, the majority could Choose 24601 Jun 2018 #53

C_U_L8R

(45,047 posts)
2. I'd guess the demographics of Queens
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:09 PM
Jun 2018

has changed a lot in the past few years.
It ain't Archie Bunker land anymore.

still_one

(92,537 posts)
10. Crowley took this challenge seriously. He wasn't complacent. A big part of it was the changing
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jun 2018

demographics, and the folks in that district wanted someone who was more representative of those demographics.

The good news is that it should be an easy Democratic district in November



still_one

(92,537 posts)
21. I don't want to give you the wrong impression Wellstone that I am so politically astute. It was
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jun 2018

from the Washington Post:

"Crowley took the contest seriously, spending 1.5 million in his first primary race since 2004. He was the first member of the Democratic leadership to endorse the House's universal Medicare bill, and he joined protests against the Trump administration's travel ban and its immigration policies."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/primary-elections-new-york-colorado-oklahoma-maryland-utah/2018/06/25/05bbbc5a-78a2-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.38af2a0d6ea1

In that article it also mentioned what you alluded to regarding Pelosi



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
24. There are more Districts like this.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jun 2018

I live in one. Sad to say,the young man who is our Rep.F--ed up and he knew it. He could have won reelection in a walk,but again,he screwed himself by his Personal Stupidity.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Let's hope.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:41 PM
Jun 2018
it should be an easy Democratic district in November
Let's hope. But if not, it won't be pretty.

A big part of it was the changing demographics,
Personally, I prefer experience over change for the sake of change. So I hope you're correct in that observation as well.

Sarandon's final-hour bandwagon hopping-on seemed a bit perfunctory and calculated if you ask me ("nobody asked ya, Jackie!'') and I got the feeling that it was just latching on to a favored candidate so she could personally "take credit" for influencing the win. Trying to redeem herself, perhaps?

LeftInTX

(25,826 posts)
30. It was Republican for about 10 years
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:27 PM
Jun 2018

From 82-92

Then it was blue from 1927-1982

It was blue from 1903-1917

It was LaGuardia's (R) seat for two years, then some other guy's (R) until 1927.

still_one

(92,537 posts)
23. This was from the Washington Post. Crowley was right up front leading the pack against trump and
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jun 2018

against his immigration policy:


"Crowley took the contest seriously, spending 1.5 million in his first primary race since 2004. He was the first member of the Democratic leadership to endorse the House's universal Medicare bill, and he joined protests against the Trump administration's travel ban and its immigration policies."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/primary-elections-new-york-colorado-oklahoma-maryland-utah/2018/06/25/05bbbc5a-78a2-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.38af2a0d6ea1

It just didn't pan out for him


rpannier

(24,353 posts)
31. Agree with all your points
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:12 AM
Jun 2018

Not being from the area, I do have a question maybe you can answer, "Did missing that debate hurt him that much?" or was it over-hyped by the media and his detractors

C_U_L8R

(45,047 posts)
33. No. Not at all. It's the changing demographics.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:19 AM
Jun 2018

Archie Bunker was from Queens. Now it's teeming with millennial hipsters who can't afford Brooklyn or Manhattan or Hoboken or...

I'd imagine any incumbent might have tough time with such an evolving constituency.
Like I said, It ain't Archie Bunker land anymore.

I bet these are million dollar homes now...
http://www.scoutingny.com/stopping-by-archie-bunkers-house-in-queens/

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
41. Much bigger than her district. She's the headline on every news media. Even the right.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:35 AM
Jun 2018

She's become a media star overnight who even Drudge and FOX can't ignore. It's really amazing how big this story has become.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
9. Yes. D+29
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jun 2018

I live in NYC - Queens to be exact. We have one Republican rep from here. That's in Staten Island.

bucolic_frolic

(43,548 posts)
11. Some rank and file Democrats
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jun 2018

are ill at ease with politics as usual, money in politics, and promises for change hindered by a corporate power structure. Populism is a force on the left as well as the right. I don't think Democrats could rule very well from the far left, but it's good to have their voices aboard!

Marbgd1

(28 posts)
14. This
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jun 2018

maybe if enough of the old guard get replaced, the Vampires will have a fight on their hands.

One can hope.

riversedge

(70,475 posts)
16. This tweet says Crowley ignored the Dreamers....Anyone know anything about this??
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jun 2018

I do not know if accurate or not. Have not followed this race.



Indivisible Guide
?Verified account @IndivisibleTeam
27m27 minutes ago

.@repjoecrowley could have leveraged his position to stand up for #DREAMers, but didn’t. He ignored the grassroots power in his own turf - so his constituents made their voices heard, and voted for @Ocasio2018 instead.





Indivisible Guide
?Verified account @IndivisibleTeam
5m5 minutes ago

Indivisible groups like NYC Indivisible Action Council, @bkindivisible, & @es_indivisible have been inspired by @Ocasio2018 for months, and worked hard to get her on the ballot and volunteered with the campaign. They showed up for her because she had shown up for them.



 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
35. There are numerous groups who've claimed Democratic leadership ignores them on various issues....
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jun 2018

....especially the Dreamers

They are apparently unaware Democrats are not in charge, and it's dangerous to make deals with a pathological liar like Donald Trump.

IronLionZion

(45,674 posts)
17. Every now and then our Dem leaders need a good wake up call
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jun 2018

to shake things up and never forget who they're working for. Good that this is a reliably safe Dem district in Queens so it is tantamount to election for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

Dude outspent her like 10-1. It's a real grass roots underdog story.

still_one

(92,537 posts)
25. Wake up call for what? Crowly spent 1.5 million in this race. He was the FIRST member of the
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:16 PM
Jun 2018

Democratic leaderhship to endorse the House's UNIVERSAL MEDICARE BILL, and he joined protests against the Trump administration's travel ban and its immigration policies"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/primary-elections-new-york-colorado-oklahoma-maryland-utah/2018/06/25/05bbbc5a-78a2-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.38af2a0d6ea1

I'll buy the underdog story, but trying to characterize this as though Crowley lost because it was a "wake-up call", is way off base

Incidently, Crowly immediately endorsed Ortez after the election tonight






IronLionZion

(45,674 posts)
38. The voters felt differently
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:43 AM
Jun 2018

The campaign was about being out of touch with the constituents, and they voted for change.

This has been happening to Republicans nationwide over the last few years where they have gotten replaced by wingnuts. The hard left finally got one.

riversedge

(70,475 posts)
18. Joe Crowley concedes and immediately endorses @Ocasio2018 --statement by Crowley
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jun 2018

good man.




Joy Reid liked
Dave Weigel
?Verified account @daveweigel
33m33 minutes ago

Joe Crowley concedes and immediately endorses @Ocasio2018


MBS

(9,688 posts)
39. Good for him.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:06 AM
Jun 2018

That's class. And the grace to give priority to the larger quest over personal disappointment.

democrank

(11,115 posts)
29. Didn't Crowley send a surrogate, Annabel Palma, to take his place in a debate?
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe that didn't sit well with voters in Crowley's district. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez deserves a lot of credit for this win. She was listening to the people and took no voter for granted.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
40. No reaction on Chuck or Nancy's Twitter
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:20 AM
Jun 2018

I haven't heard anything from the Dem establishment even though Crowley was pretty cool in supporting.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
47. Pelosi's reaction lukewarm at best
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jun 2018

She praises Crowley and says he will be missed and "also" congratulates O but says her victory in her Bronx district does not represent a broader trend in the party.

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
42. From the Guardian......................
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:11 AM
Jun 2018

Democrats see major upset as socialist beats top-ranking US congressman

Joe Crowley, 10-term Democrat expected to be party’s next House leader, loses to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, in New York


And then when you read the article from The Guardian you get to this point:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/26/democrats-primaries-upset-joe-crowley-alexandria-osacio-cortez

Donald Trump weighed in as well, apparently viewing Crowley’s defeat to a leftwing candidate as a referendum on him. The president wrote on Twitter shortly after the race was called: “Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!”


Hey sexual predator......................it is about you and it is about not being "nicer" to you and your version of "respectful" .................your an idiot and you are fucking deranged--------------------we are coming for you asshole, your ego is so fucking psychotic, that you fucking think that people need to be nicer and respectful of you if they lose a race...................either one of these candidate's have one mission---------------you and your illegitimate party and defeating you because your a fucking sexual predator and fucking traitor............................

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
50. everything he injects his psychotic BS in everything...............he thinks that he did it
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:46 AM
Jun 2018

he is mentality incapable to reason with that malignant narcissistic ego between his ears, he is deranged


Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
43. Please ignore all the hot take artists on leftbro Twitter (i.e., Greenwald, Konst)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jun 2018

Last edited Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)

especially those who only just 'discovered' Ocasio a couple of days ago and only started tweeting shit when it looked like she might actually win.

Ocasio's win was a win for the Democratic Party, not the haters, not the GOP, not the socialists, not the Greens, and not the Bernindependents...

NO, the entire party "establishment" was not rooting for her to lose, nor was there any grand conspiracy to rig the primary...

NO, this wasn't the "Biggest Political Upset EVER!!!" Please just stop...

And NO, she isn't going to be the goddamned house speaker as a freshman so quit asking... Also, how about we concentrate on flipping congress FIRST before dividing the spoils?

And NO, while this was a well planned and well-organized victory, it doesn't mean we need to start running socialist candidates in Arkansas or wherever...

And YES, the party is unified and remains strong and Crawley's gracious, classy conceding of the race and immediate call for everyone to back Ocasio is all up in the face of those idiot pundits who keep playing up some nonexistent intra-party civil war...

P.S. Extra Credit for Ocasio *repeatedly* refusing to jump on the "Bernie Bait" (i.e., pissing on Dems, spilling tea, Monday-morning quarterbacking and airing out all our dirty laundry) despite the fact that CNN was dangling it multiple times during the interview...

MuseRider

(34,142 posts)
52. I like this!
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jun 2018

I grow weary of everything having to be a scream fest (not saying this is because I have not looked but guessing it must be) and the best or worst or whatever. She won and it is good. He was gracious as it should be. We have got to stop this. Just because people did not like one person does not mean they did not vote for that person but still does not like them and it does not make them some kind of party criminal. This place is looking so crazy some days that I wonder if we could even win a fight against a kid gagged and tied to a chair. Thankfully we still can. We do so much better on issues than we do elections.

Pluvious

(4,351 posts)
49. Hopefully this portends a nascent movement away from corporate money in politics
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jun 2018

( fat chance, I know )

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
51. Expect a Sore Loser Run
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

Last I check, New York does not have a "sore loser" or simultaneous registration deadline.

He'll probably run as an independent in the general, hoping to garner Republican votes.

And he'll win.

(Don't be mad at me; this is how the game is played.)

24601

(3,967 posts)
53. Just an observation. If we win control of the House of Representatives, the majority could Choose
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jun 2018

Rep. Crowley as Speaker. Nothing in Article I requires the Speaker to be a member of the House of Representatives. They also could choose Hillary Clinton or even me. I'm clearing my calendar just in case and promise to serve a full term.

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