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JI7

(89,290 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 02:54 AM Jun 2018

North Korea Making 'Rapid' Upgrades to Nuclear Reactor Despite Summit Pledges

Source: guardian

North Korea has continued to upgrade its only known nuclear reactor used to fuel its weapons program, satellite imagery has shown, despite ongoing negotiations with the US and a pledge to denuclearise.

Infrastructure improvements at the Yongbyon nuclear plant are “continuing at a rapid pace”, according to an analysis by monitoring group 38 North of commercial satellite images taken on 21 June.
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The cooling system for the plutonium production reactor has been modified and at least two new non-industrial buildings have been built on the site, possibly for use by visiting officials. A new engineering office building has been completed and construction has continued on support facilities throughout the complex, according to a blog post written by Frank V Pabian, Joseph S Bermudez Jr and Jack Liu.

“Infrastructure improvements continue at Yongbyon,” Jenny Town, managing editor of 38 North, wrote on Twitter. “Underscores reason why an actual deal is necessary, not just a statement of lofty goals.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/27/north-korea-nuclear-reactor-upgrades-summit-pledges



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North Korea Making 'Rapid' Upgrades to Nuclear Reactor Despite Summit Pledges (Original Post) JI7 Jun 2018 OP
Nuclear dismantling? That's old news. TrumPutin's got us looking at other lies and evil deeds now. C Moon Jun 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #13
He got the photo op and made a speech and chalked it as a win for his Administration. forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #14
Satellite images the article is based on here: joshcryer Jun 2018 #2
Carry on Komrade! LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #3
What's esp. pathetic about this is that the NK General DID NOT salute Trump ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #6
There are other pics of this. The general did salute him. Trump, idiotically, returned the salute. Demit Jun 2018 #7
You criticize the media even when you are wrong. He did salute the con man. Trust Buster Jun 2018 #8
The general did salute Trump lunatica Jun 2018 #16
I believe all three of you are wrong, sorry ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #17
Sure. lunatica Jun 2018 #19
It's great propaganda ... he got a shot of the POTUS looking like a dumb sucker mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #20
Everybody knows that move. lunatica Jun 2018 #21
Well, he did it subtle ... but I still think he did it. mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #22
One thing I'd humbly ask you is to watch it again but with the IDEA in mind of what I mentioned ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #26
You're right, I've been watching the Korean news every day for months soryang Jun 2018 #24
So it's customary they give a half-assed salute while looking down like they're not worthy mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #27
If I had a dime for every stupid move a westerner made in Korea... soryang Jun 2018 #28
Of course they are, tRump can't make a deal that doesn't go bad. Canoe52 Jun 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #5
That's what happens watoos Jun 2018 #9
Hang on for all the good things coming from NK. keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #10
Leading to a legacy of mutual distrust. Interminable US failures to perform... soryang Jun 2018 #25
drumpf was played like a fiddle by NK & China & is shown to be weak and ineffective - lark Jun 2018 #11
Can't be. Trump said North Korea is "no longer a nuclear threat." SunSeeker Jun 2018 #12
Hopefully, Kim will keep on smoking like a chimney.... CottonBear Jun 2018 #15
Crickets from the White House. truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #18
Trump is such a sucker. area51 Jun 2018 #23

C Moon

(12,227 posts)
1. Nuclear dismantling? That's old news. TrumPutin's got us looking at other lies and evil deeds now.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 03:13 AM
Jun 2018

Response to C Moon (Reply #1)

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
14. He got the photo op and made a speech and chalked it as a win for his Administration.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jun 2018

As far as IQ-45 is concerned, his three-hours of work is done.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. What's esp. pathetic about this is that the NK General DID NOT salute Trump ...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:54 AM
Jun 2018

And what might be even more pathetic is that NO US MEDIA STORY I ever saw afterwards ... pointed that fact out.

Trump was SO EAGER to a salute the General of a dictatorial regime that he saluted him when the General totally fucked with him, and did NOT salute him ... that was SO GD PATHETIC.

Wingnuts heads would STILL be exploding 2 weeks later calling it the Scandal of Decade ... if this were BHO ...

On Edit: I guess it wasn't as obvious to others as it was to me that he didn't REALLY salute, but whatevs. Onto the newest daily scandal.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
7. There are other pics of this. The general did salute him. Trump, idiotically, returned the salute.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:51 AM
Jun 2018

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. The general did salute Trump
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jun 2018

It went down like this:

Trump stuck his hand out to shake the general’s hand.
At the same time the general saluted Trump.
Trump then quickly withdrew his hand and awkwardly saluted the general who was already extending his hand to shake Trump’s hand.
The description of this little scenario would include the word awkward.

This is the reason Presidents and other high officials have a protocol expert at their side when meeting foreign dignitaries. But I’m sure Trump has made it clear he doesn’t do sissy stuff like that.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
17. I believe all three of you are wrong, sorry ...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

What the general did was a 'look at me I've seen some American movies' type of thing.

The 'move' where instead of shaking hands, Mr. Cool pulls his hand away at the last second (the 'dork' of the movie is the 'victim') and then reaches up and pretends to slick his hair back is like iconic. It's from Ferris Bueller or Breakfast Club or one of those 80's flicks I think. Or maybe it was Happy Days? Pretty sure I've seen it in >1 movie or show actually.

There was 6 months after it was done in some popular show or movie that I saw a bunch of people doing it to others IRL thinking it was the coolest/funniest thing.

I think it's obvious that's what he was doing, that was not meant as a salute. Pretty sure these guys don't normally salute in such a casual way. If he was going to salute he'd have stood attention and saluted as soon as Trump approached not left him hanging on the handshake.

Go back and watch it again with that in mind. Watch his little smirk and watch how he does his right hand at the top of the motion.

I MAY be wrong and I'm just imagining it that way cause it makes Trump look even dumber. TBH I've only watched it twice, but my FIRST thought upon watching the exchange was 'ZOMG that General just did the I'm too cool for you handshake move to Trump' and my 2nd viewing only strengthened my belief.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. It's great propaganda ... he got a shot of the POTUS looking like a dumb sucker
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jun 2018

Both video of the overall scenario (and anyone who's watching who's familiar with that 'handshake trick' like myself would recognize that as the general actually dissing Trump) and the still shot of the General with his hand out and Trump saluting him is friggin' GOLD.

I think it was sly and intentional on the generals part, and he was just subtle enough about it to not get into trouble for 'cutting up' but it was obvious enough for someone like me who knows 'that move' to totally pick up on it.

The smirk at the end makes it obvious to me.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. Everybody knows that move.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jun 2018

It isn’t and never has been subtle. There is no special secret knowledge to that move.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Well, he did it subtle ... but I still think he did it.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jun 2018

I'd bet there's plenty of young people and much older people unfamiliar with that move but whether it's 'universally' known or just 'well known' is not relevant.

Obvs I'm not insisting you concur or whatever and I probably shouldn't have dissed the media cause it's really just my personal impression of what went down there ...

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. One thing I'd humbly ask you is to watch it again but with the IDEA in mind of what I mentioned ...
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:39 AM
Jun 2018

Really watch closely, watch what a completely half-assed (at BEST) 'salute' that was (if it was), and the timing, given the fact that he should have been aware of the outstretched hand before him given his line of sight, and the way he smirked that looked like a grandpa who just played a trick on Junior ... and tell my you're SURE ... that WAS meant as a 'salute', and not a 'psyche' ...

At this point since we've argued about it I've watched it a bunch more times and I SWEAR I think he was fake-shaking Trump, I honestly do.

But ... maybe I just WANT to see it because it's totally hilarious to imagine ... but it does seem that way to me.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
24. You're right, I've been watching the Korean news every day for months
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:10 PM
Jun 2018

I've seen this salute rendered to Kim by receiving officers a few times. Trump just didn't know the custom, and reverted to his military school practice.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. So it's customary they give a half-assed salute while looking down like they're not worthy
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:50 AM
Jun 2018

kind of deal?

Huh ... I guess it could be that's actually what it was ... they're so scared and brain-washed and subservient that when KJU approaches they just have to look down and offer some feeble and deferential 'I'm not worthy to be in your presence' wannabe salute?

I guess that also would also explain the weird way the whole thing looked to me ... the smirk was more of a 'please tell me I did it right? please don't pump me full of 90 rounds in the public square, sir!'

KJU is obviously Dump's kinda dude, man ... hey, did you SEE the way those GENERALS cowered in the presence of their Supreme Leader? GOSH he's SO COOL and STRONG and can totally just K*LL fools if he wants. Why can't Kelly be more like these NK Generals?

Response to JI7 (Original post)

keithbvadu2

(37,067 posts)
10. Hang on for all the good things coming from NK.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jun 2018

Hang on for all the good things coming from NK.

There have been many 'historic' meetings and signatures...

soryang

(3,299 posts)
25. Leading to a legacy of mutual distrust. Interminable US failures to perform...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jun 2018

... are referred to as delays and glitches rather than breaches.

The Six-Party Talks at a Glance

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/6partytalks


"The Agreed Framework collapsed in October 2002 due to alleged violations from both sides. Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly claimed that in a bilateral meeting, North Korea had admitted it possessed a uranium-enrichment program, which Pyongyang denied, and which would violate the deal. The United States was slow to deliver the energy aid promised in the agreement. The construction of the future light-water reactors was far behind schedule. The first reactor was initially slated for completion in 2003 but was not likely to be operational until 2008 at the earliest..." In other words the US breached.

"Following the end of the first session, the negotiating climate deteriorated significantly. U.S. sanctions on North Korean trading entities as well as Banco Delta Asia of Macau provoked strong condemnation from Pyongyang. North Korea boycotted the six-party talks once again, and conducted multiple missile tests in July and its first nuclear test on October 9, 2006..."

"The next round of talks began on time but came to no substantive agreement in its initial sessions after the North Korean delegation walked out over delays in the release of funds from the sanctioned Banco Delta Asia..."

"The other parties agreed to increase aid to North Korea to a total of 1 million tons of heavy fuel oil or fuel oil equivalents and to a continuation of the diplomatic normalization processes.

Following numerous delays in implementation, US and other parties..."

lark

(23,206 posts)
11. drumpf was played like a fiddle by NK & China & is shown to be weak and ineffective -
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:15 AM
Jun 2018

as always. Those who bluster the most are the weakest, strength doesn't need or do that.

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