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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:50 PM Jan 2019

Here are the 15 Democrats who didn't vote for Pelosi as speaker

Source: Roll Call

Nancy Pelosi of California was elected speaker of the House on Thursday, returning the gavel to her hands eight years after she lost it when Republicans took control of the chamber in 2011.

There were 15 Democrats who voted against her in the roll call vote.

Some had run on a pledge not to support Pelosi as speaker should Democrats regain control of the House, saying the party needed new blood in leadership.

Some stuck to that pledge while others eventually supported Pelosi. Here are the 15 Democrats who voted against her:

Read more: https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/15-democrats-didnt-vote-pelosi-speaker



Rep. Anthony Brindisi of New York voted for former Vice President Joe Biden.
Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee voted “present.”
Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado voted for Illinois Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth.
Rep. Joe Cunningham of South Carolina voted for Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairwoman Cheri Bustos of Illinois.
Rep. Jared Golden of Maine also voted for Bustos.
Rep. Ron Kind of Wisconsin voted for Georgia Democratic Rep. John Lewis.
Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania voted for Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy III.
Rep. Ben McAdams of Utah voted for Florida Democratic Rep. Stephanie Murphy.
Rep. Kathleen Rice of New York voted for 2018 Georgia Democratic gubernatorial nominee Stacey Abrams.
Rep. Max Rose of New York voted for Duckworth.
Rep. Kurt Schrader of Oregon voted for Ohio Democratic Rep. Marcia L. Fudge.
Rep. Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey voted for Bustos.
Rep. Elissa Slotkin of Michigan voted “present.”
Rep. Abigail Spanberger of Virginia voted for Bustos.
Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey voted “present.”
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Here are the 15 Democrats who didn't vote for Pelosi as speaker (Original Post) George II Jan 2019 OP
Let's keep an eye on those who voted "present" PJMcK Jan 2019 #1
Voting "present" is really weak, at least show support for a fellow dem. Merlot Jan 2019 #27
Sherril, Slotkin and Spanberger are newly elected freshman. Bustos is from Illinois. Puzzling. ancianita Jan 2019 #2
Very disappointed in Slotkin, but she did campaign on a new speaker. catbyte Jan 2019 #3
I'm sure that's not the only issue on which she campaigned. George II Jan 2019 #6
Well, duh. catbyte Jan 2019 #10
So was I. llmart Jan 2019 #12
I do remember her saying--especially in Oakland County speeches--that she wouldn't vote for her. catbyte Jan 2019 #14
Yay! Florida didn't suck at something! Baitball Blogger Jan 2019 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #5
What the actual hell? You lost or something? Maybe you're having cognitive issues? Stand and Fight Jan 2019 #16
lol Cha Jan 2019 #31
Did everyone on DU just become Democrats yesterday? Our party is NEVER unanamious on anything. FSogol Jan 2019 #7
TRUE: "Our party is NEVER unanamious on anything." Perseus Jan 2019 #11
Disagree. We will never be in lockstep and we don't have to lose our uniqueness to win. n/t FSogol Jan 2019 #13
That would work well in a literate voter population Perseus Jan 2019 #28
So what if 15 Democrats reject Pelosi? 34 Repubs rejected Paul Ryan and the press never noticed. FSogol Jan 2019 #38
By voting present it reduced the votes Pelosi needed to win. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #8
Actually it didn't, it increased the number she needed by 1. George II Jan 2019 #15
There was no reason imo for Ron Kind (WI) to not vote for Pelosi. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #9
Well, he's from Wisconsin Gregory Peccary Jan 2019 #18
Democrats that try to act Republican usually get replaced by real Republicans TeamPooka Jan 2019 #17
Exactly DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #22
Off with their heads!!! progressoid Jan 2019 #19
i agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #35
I'm disappointed in Conor Lamb as I supported his campaign...never again. nt iluvtennis Jan 2019 #20
Two of us DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #23
+ agree iluvtennis Jan 2019 #24
Read Pelosi gave him permission NOT to vote for her bc of his deep red district bobbieinok Jan 2019 #26
PA-17 is not deep red since the state supreme court DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #33
you do realize that Nancy Pelosi was ok with his vote and that she realizes to be speaker JI7 Jan 2019 #37
Not a Giant Concern Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #21
Much ado about nothing. Nt lostnfound Jan 2019 #25
I think it is all Kabuki Theater GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #29
Every word of THIS! flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #30
Someone please tell me we aren't going back the party purity pledge days! Ford_Prefect Jan 2019 #32
Let's see how it shakes out with their committee assignments... Hekate Jan 2019 #34
Thanks. Glad that my new rep finally voted for Pelosi question everything Jan 2019 #36

PJMcK

(22,075 posts)
1. Let's keep an eye on those who voted "present"
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jan 2019

That kind of voting behavior could signal trouble within the caucus.

Meanwhile, congratulations to Speaker Pelosi! May the next two years be awesome for America and catastrophic for Trump.

catbyte

(34,546 posts)
14. I do remember her saying--especially in Oakland County speeches--that she wouldn't vote for her.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jan 2019

At least she didn't vote against her. Not looking for good regarding committee assignments, though.

Response to George II (Original post)

FSogol

(45,595 posts)
7. Did everyone on DU just become Democrats yesterday? Our party is NEVER unanamious on anything.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

This is in clear contrast to the GOP.

I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat. - Will Rogers


Pelosi doesn't care. Why should we?

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. TRUE: "Our party is NEVER unanamious on anything."
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jan 2019

But that needs to change if we are to get rid of repubs, otherwise we will be in two eternal fights, one with the repubs and the other within the party, and the latter we don't and should not have. In this times unity is of extreme importance.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
28. That would work well in a literate voter population
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:58 PM
Jan 2019

but when you have a voter population who votes for trump then you better be united and fight the battle together, show unity, show consistency.

It can be done very easily, all they have to do is have their close quarters meetings to find commonality and compromise, then deliver a united message and not confuse the electorate.

Not sure if you have noticed, but that is exactly what repubs do, they show unity, whether some of them understand what their leaders are talking about, but nonetheless, what their voters see is consistency of thought, and that to people who are politically ignorant is very important, they hear a unified message, only one. That uniqueness you talk about confuses voters who only care about sound bites, and no wonder they think the democratic party is divided.

You thoughts on this are very pure, but when you are going against ignorance you better don't confuse them or you will be rejected.

How does it help when 15 democrats reject Nancy Pelosi? It confuses people...Imagine if Nancy Pelosi became the next candidate, how would that work out when people in her party do not support her?

Your purity on that uniqueness would work well if people sat down to analyze the discussion, but they don't, that uniqueness has not worked well, and on the other hand the repubs unity has, so its time to unite, find compromise and deliver one message that the ignorant voter population can understand.

FSogol

(45,595 posts)
38. So what if 15 Democrats reject Pelosi? 34 Repubs rejected Paul Ryan and the press never noticed.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jan 2019

Stop buying into RW talking points. We don't win by copying the Repubs.

PS. Purity isn't allowing our members to have varying opinions, purity is having everyone in lockstep.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Actually it didn't, it increased the number she needed by 1.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:40 PM
Jan 2019

She needed an absolute majority of those who voted. There were 433 votes, including the 3 "present", so she needed to get 217.

Had those three not voted at all, there would have been 430 votes - she would have needed to get 216.

She got 220.

By the way, one clown (I'm guessing republican) voted "no", which was not included in the final total. The other missing vote was the disputed district in NC.

TeamPooka

(24,304 posts)
17. Democrats that try to act Republican usually get replaced by real Republicans
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jan 2019

because they make people forget what being a Democrat is about and worth fighting for.

DeminPennswoods

(15,305 posts)
23. Two of us
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jan 2019

It's not like in 2 years, Republicans won't bring up his vote for Kennedy III! Who's even better to bash than a Pelosi, an Obama or a Clinton? A Kennedy!

DeminPennswoods

(15,305 posts)
33. PA-17 is not deep red since the state supreme court
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:02 AM
Jan 2019

ordered re-districting. In fact, Gov Wolf, who ran with unabashed socialist John Fetterman, actually won my county (Beaver which is entirely encompassed within the new 17th) with 53+%, Sen Casey won with a little under 51% and Lamb lost with 48%.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
37. you do realize that Nancy Pelosi was ok with his vote and that she realizes to be speaker
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:25 AM
Jan 2019

there will be some democrats who would vote for someone else.

Roy Rolling

(6,947 posts)
21. Not a Giant Concern
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 06:24 PM
Jan 2019

Their and any Democrat's actions will be an everyday, ongoing evaluation. This is neither a deal-killer nor an essential vote to succeed at taking back government from traitors.

Everything they do every day will determine how they fit on the "take back America" team. Everyone has a place and nobody is indispensable.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
29. I think it is all Kabuki Theater
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

Nancy knows how the game is played and knows we just won in a lot of districts that used to be republican. And by running moderate democrats, rather than to the left.

She had no problem giving them cover.

They have started off their Congressional career by keeping a promise(the new ones) and putting the mask of independence for the other moderates.

It was a calculated move. Had she really needed a vote they would have learned the power she has over them. But it is not Speaker Pelosi’s style to go to the mat when there is a more productive way forward.

Tempest in a teapot.

Ford_Prefect

(7,937 posts)
32. Someone please tell me we aren't going back the party purity pledge days!
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jan 2019

At the risk of being alerted on by one of the "faithful", the last time I looked the Democrats are the party of all the American people. Which means there will be genuine and serious differences of opinion on substantial issues, and they will take place in public view rather than behind closed doors among the party elites. That's how participatory democracy is intended to work.

question everything

(47,600 posts)
36. Thanks. Glad that my new rep finally voted for Pelosi
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:14 AM
Jan 2019

Immediately after the elections he said that he might not and I reacted with an angry email. He replied that as he was going over the district he heard the need for "change."

And... too bad about Lamb. I was actually thinking of him as a future Presidential candidate.

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