It should be apparent that Trump is going for ratings here. Nothing more than to deliver a speech BLAMING everyone but himself for the sorry state the Union is in.

shithole is very very upset at Pelosi and that is a good thing.

I can't wait to see live TV cameras rolling when he arrives at the locked House building.

And for most of our history, there was no SOTU speech, so go away

Just after she was elected Speaker. It invited him to give the SOTU on January 29th. Then she sent him another letter asking that he postpone the speech until after the Trump Shutdown was ended - for security reasons

wonder if a massive protest outside would constitute 'a security concern'

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Block the front door! Except I think they do have secret tunnels and stuff.

But the massive protest would be worth it.

But yes there is a tunnel system connecting all of the House and Senate office buildings to the Capitol building.

Those are the ones that JFK used to smuggle in his "lady friends".

Maybe we can convince Trumpy to escape out through one of those. (Federal Marshall will be waiting for him at the other end with cuffs)

Even if no American worker will sleep with him, I'm sure Putie can supply him with how ever many shlyukha's he wants.

And if it's anything other than a report to Congress, it ain't a SOTU

He just cannot get that the President does not rule over the other branches of government.

....this will be the ultimate "hit him where it hurts" move.

Please, no claptrap about "respect for the office" or "tradition". That stuff flew out the window long ago and shouldn't apply here.

Illegitimate POTUS!

He would have to assault you to get them... no one should be there that day, let him stew!!

if Trump is trespassing into Capitol property? Even when he has been notified that he is disinvited to make the SOTU speech.

Are elected officials and invited guests. All others are normally barred from entry.

took me and my group to see the House floor.

Put nothing past Republicans, they killed Murtha, who was big time anti-Iraq war. Who dies from a routine gall bladder operation" Someone nicked an artery on the way out.

invite the orange turd into the Chamber?

Of course, presumably there would be no prep allowed by Speaker Pelosi, so no battery of teevee cameras etc. which means the orange asshole wouldn't be interested.

They were turned away by security at the orders of the Speaker of the House.

That's great. I hope there's video.

Open the government with no wall. Then we'll talk..

I'm outta here. You can have this place. Canada will be warmer in a few more years anyway. Grab your children and leave the US for all the MAGAts to fight over. They'll eventually eat each other, then you can come back and clean it up when they are done. tRump has no respect for our government or institutions or people. This attitude should make every Senator and Congressman stop and say NO, we are an EQUAL branch. You come when you are invited.

something significantly wrong with the US democracy. Who will come along even worse and be blessed by many people in the US. What is damn scary, worse than tRump, are those that support and love him. WTF kind of place do they want the US to be, FFS.

Remember?

It was rigged.

Sorry but it is an indication of how corrupt our system is that he didn't lose by 10 million votes.

He can make this happen by force.

The Speaker controls which non-members have access to the House floor.

This is going to happen because Trump wants to raise the stakes to make it a big deal.

...he's fucking with the wrong woman. I don't think even the Republican members of Congress would go along with this.

of this.

People get a little hyperbolic here on occasion.

It's that big.

Btw, he's Commander In Chief of the armed forces not congress.

He has no control over Congress, which is a branch of government equal to the presidency. In fact, it's listed first in the Constitution. If he ordered the Army to storm the Capitol to force it to open for his speech, he'd be impeached the next day, even by Republicans.

Then she can order cameras OFF.

Without a live feed Trumps speech will go unheard.

HE NEEDS an audience his schtick doesn't work without the audience.

Why do we keep on assuming Trump respects law or tradition?

Trump as president is the commander in chief, that doesn't automatically translate into control of the military!

The US military does not have to follow any illegal orders...and Trump may find himself on the wrong end of things!

Oh my, abuse of power . . . .

Very bad, extremely bad optics. I know t-rump is sick in the head, but this is not a justifiable move.

We put to much faith in Trump to respect law and norms.

You put too much faith in his ability to control that which does not wish to be controlled.

I don't think even the GOPers would tolerate that kind of shit (most of them, anyhow. Mitch might like it).

What people are arguing is that Pelosi has the keys to the door, the switch to the lights, and the on/off button on the camera feed.

Locks don't care if you respect them or not.

She can simply say 'by your own words, Mr. President, the Press are The Enemy of The People'.

Therefore, you may give your speech, but there will be no Press, no live feed, etc. We can't risk the Enemy of The People making their move when all the US Government is in the same place!

Make if for the 20th of March or something. Then if he shows up, they can just tell him he got the date wrong.

Serve lots of Guinness, then hold a vote, see if anyone can remember how to vote.

Et Tu?

You're not welcome. Now go open up the government.

And if by some chance he forces his way to the podium,
it's up to the rest of us to just turn the channel.

Trump need to appeal to his Incel supporters.

Raper in Chief...

The POTUS has no comprehension of separation of powers. Nobody can just show up and give a speech from the podium.

Let him give the state of the union to the House and Senate.

Along with the lights.

Give him Pence's chair right next to her.

And Jim Comey, and all the other patriots trump dismissed because he was afraid of them.

To distract and try to make political points.

This nonsense also proves once again his abysmal lack of knowledge and caring about American history, tradition and the Constitution.

Since I hate to repeat myself (and it's a pain in the backside to copy and paste on this tablet) here's a link to what I wrote as a reply in a different thread about Trump's pushing to have his, not required to be televised, in person or at a specific time, 'State of the Union ' propaganda moment to spout his LIES and attacks on more than half the citizens of this country.: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11712863

Feel free to scroll down through my intro and start at the very informative WaPo article snips...
"Does Trump have to give a State of the Union speech? No."

Then again, her letter had some wiggle room. It was not a definite no.

without security, and that was the lynchpin of the disinvite - SS is not getting paid to protect them, so it's very dangerous for them all to be in one location without proper security in place.

No SOTU while government is shutdown. If trump wants a platform, then he needs to open the government

Watch past SOTU's. The doors are closed, the President knocks. The Sgt of Arms opens the door and announces the President, the Speaker INVITES him in, then and only then is the President allowed in.

I say, let him knock and the Sgt of Arms does NOT open the door. Just leave him standing there.

Try to overpower the Sergent-at-Arms and break in to deliver his fantasy speech? Good luck what that, Donnie Moscow!

Arrest the fat fuck when he arrives.

Is his speech, going to be in English or Russian? Or one in each language, being he's such a 'very stable genius'.

The Speaker should bar the door and see what Putin's puppet does!

Can we talk about IMPEACHMENT yet?

Or should we wait till Putin's lapdog dissolves Congress and rules by fiat and martial law???

knuckling in under him lacking the guts to tell him to fuck off.

If he dares to walk into the House uninvited, the Sergeant at Arms needs to be ready to have him tackled, handcuffed, and hustled WAY THE FUCK OUT!

And security is inherently compromised due to the Shutdown.

You can give Congress your Constitutionally Mandated Briefing as to the SOTU, but the Press will not be present.

Oliver Cromwell?

Chinese citizen vs. Chinese tank. Tiananmen Square. 1989

Would someone please teach Dipshit what job he is doing?

Especially since you know he's only going to rail about her and Dems?

You're Uninvited, tRumpster!

If he shows up there should be no planning and no dignitaries in attendance. Fill the place with the federal employees he's screwing over.

For protesters interrupting House business, the congressional sergeants at arms and other officers will remove the offending parties. Whether or not this would happen for a sitting president is a question that has not yet been answered in U.S. history.

Typical Trump. All about appearances and vanity with nothing but hollowness or crap and ugliness on the inside.

He should give the address from his golden commode by Twitter. Gold-plated and full of crap.

This whole setup has a ‘Reichstag Fire’ air about it.